German/Japanese WW2 game

[SacremPyrobolum]

I would love for a serious hardcore studio like Tryarch try and take a stab at a WW2 game set in the perspective of the Germans or Japanese. Wouldnt it be interesting for you to be the one mowing down the Americans durring Dday instead of the other way around? How about participating in Pear Harbor. Sure their will be a backlash, but the industry is not stranger to that. As long as the whole thing is presented in a tasteful and unbias way I think that it would make a great game.

 

[Jackpot524]

You mean play a Campaign that you are eventually destined to lose? I don't see any sense of accomplishment being gained there...

EDIT: I've gone through a couple posts and revised some of my initial ideas.

For the game to end realistically, they would need to stir the player with guilt and shame more than anything for it to really represent what the end was like for the Axis... I just don't know how they would accomplish this though... You'd have to be forced into doing some sort of atrocity, whether it's killing civilians or torturing a POW. It would be a complete 'War Games' scenario: The only way to win, is to never play at all.

Also, it's not quite like Reach... because in Reach you die, but at least salvage some victory.

 

[CRAVE CASE 55]

I would love for a serious hardcore studio like Tryarch try and take a stab at a WW2 game set in the perspective of the Germans or Japanese. Wouldnt it be interesting for you to be the one mowing down the Americans durring Dday instead of the other way around? How about participating in Pear Harbor. Sure their will be a backlash, but the industry is not stranger to that. As long as the whole thing is presented in a tasteful and unbias way I think that it would make a great game.

U just said mowing down americans on Dday and taking part in pearl harbor in a tasteful way. that statement is ful of fail.

OT:no becuase it would never happen. they are american companies. they wont make a game about killing americans as a faction that looses. you wana see pearlharbor from the japaneese side? watch TOra, Tora, Tora

 

[Kitteh]

You mean play a Campaign that you are eventually destined to lose? I don't see any sense of accomplishment being gained there...

They didn't lose, they just got bored.

 

[teh_Canape]

You mean play a Campaign that you are eventually destined to lose? I don't see any sense of accomplishment being gained there...

basically in Halo Reach you are destined to lose in the campaign =P

 

[Horus Lupercal]

I have wanted such a game for years! and the only games that comes to mind are silent storm and battlestations pacific, but no fps.
I am tired of playing as the heroic russian, american or brit.
Not all germans were bad and they had their share of heroics too.

Actually what i mostly want to see is a ww1 fps. and remeber before anyone says that it would only be trench fighting, that the eastern front were pretty fluid as were the italian and austrian front, and even then the german had storm troops that ventured far behind the enemy lines to cause havoc.
And im sure all will agree that there is no definite bad guy in ww1.

Sorry for going off topic

 

[James13v]

I'd play it. An interactive perspective of the most destructive war in human history from the side that began it (Germany), or the side that fought it until they faced literal extermination (Japan) would be interesting.

 

[busterkeatonrules]

You mean play a Campaign that you are eventually destined to lose? I don't see any sense of accomplishment being gained there...

Who said anything about losing? Surely the point of such a game would be for the player to try and do a BETTER job than the original Axis forces?

 

[Nagisa94]

It would be cool to see another perspective, while straying from things such as "mowing down the Americans during Dday". They don't even have to portray the player character fighting Americans, put him on the Eastern front, fight Russians. They could have you participate in the German Army's last stand in Berlin, have you fight to the death against the Red Army.
It wouldn't be a game to see you win the war, but to see the drama in losing one. The crushing defeat of the Reich's invasion of the Soviet Union, or play as a Japanese soldier fighting tooth and nail in the face of total defeat. I've been wanting a game like this for years

 

[TimeLord]

You mean play a Campaign that you are eventually destined to lose? I don't see any sense of accomplishment being gained there...

They didn't lose, they just got bored.

That is my quote of the week!

OT: I would like to see a game like that, but since it would include the player killing American, Canadian and British soldiers on the D-Day beaches, I don't see it selling well in those countries. Or rolling into Paris on a German tank won't endear yourself to the French either.

I would buy it, but not many others would.

 

[Double A]

You mean play a Campaign that you are eventually destined to lose? I don't see any sense of accomplishment being gained there...

You don't win in the end, but it certainly would be fun to see it from another perspective for once.

And at least that way you'd actually be able to find ammo for your Thompson and M1 Carbine.

 

[Jackpot524]

You mean play a Campaign that you are eventually destined to lose? I don't see any sense of accomplishment being gained there...

Who said anything about losing? Surely the point of such a game would be for the player to try and do a BETTER job than the original Axis forces?

Except I doubt the impact you'd make as one soldier or phase-jumping from several would equate to a severely different outcome... If you want to change the course of the war, play of Heart of Iron. If you want to see the war from a German perspective and don't mind boats, try Silent Hunter. There's options, just not a FPS one... that I know of... unless you count the German campaign on Battlefield 1942.

 

[Jackpot524]

So... How would it end? At least on the German side? Would you get shot defending Berlin? Captured by the Russians and exiled to a workcamp in Siberia? Or just be part of the mass-surrender in May of 1945... I don't see it being memorable or inspiring...

 

[Grey_Focks]

Yea, very interesting idea (and you CAN play as the Germans in the Company of Heroes games, fyi) but I kinda get the feeling you mean FPS, or atleast something a bit more mainstream. Honestly, I just don't see it working well. Who would buy it? Would be censored to all hell (or most likely just banned) in Germany, the Japanese hate those kinds of games, and I can't see it selling that well in any of the Allied countries, either. probably not banned or censored mind you, but really it would just get blasted by just about...well, everyone.

If I did it? I would have you play as the Japanese, because that seems a bit more easy to sell than playing as Nazis, and movies like "Letters from Iwo Jima" have already done an amazing job of humanizing them during the war.

 

[seryoga]

I have always wanted a WW2 game that really fleshed out the ideologies of the opposing sides, but the main reason that nobody wants to play as the Germans is that they were commiting genocide many different peoples and its something you cant really ignore, unlike the fact that most game developers ignore the fact that the Russians committed genocide against the Germans, I personally would like to see one through the eyes of a Yugoslav partisan.

 

[Eric_Autopsy]

How about Continue to Insult 2: Call of an Entire Country? Side note: I'm freaking sick of WW2 in media like games and television.

 

[Merkavar]

why not just make it one of the battles that the japanese etc won. dont have to be the entire war in one game

 

[Xan Krieger]

If I did it? I would have you play as the Japanese, because that seems a bit more easy to sell than playing as Nazis, and movies like "Letters from Iwo Jima" have already done an amazing job of humanizing them during the war.

But the thing is the Japanese were worse then the germans. I'd rather play as the Germans, invade Poland, invade France, beat back the British in North Africa, overwhelm the Russians at the start of Operation Barbarossa, then gradually start losing. Sure you lose in the end but you lose in Halo Reach as well so it's not unheard of.

 

[Blobpie]

That would be fine to make i suppose, but i wouldn't play it. I know quite a bit of the nazi and "empire of japan" ideologies, and i hate both with a passion, gotta stick with my guns.

 

[Gyrefalcon]

So... How would it end? At least on the German side? Would you get shot defending Berlin? Captured by the Russians and exiled to a workcamp in Siberia? Or just be part of the mass-surrender in May of 1945... I don't see it being memorable or inspiring...

It could be a game based off of the movie Valkyrie.