Ghostbusters reviews are...positive!
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I'll be the voice of dissent here for shits n' giggles. A 70-80% film on Rotten Tomatoes isn't exactly glowing acclaim. It's "alright". Usually territory occupied by middling inoffensive slop, or polarizing films. Of further concern, the film is currently sitting just above 50% among Top Critics, picking up most of its acclaims from less reliable/experienced outlets (I'll let the local conspiracy widgets speculate about which ones, and why, I'd like to think I have more dignity than that). This is more in keeping with the 62% on Metacritic, which uses weighted scores.maninahat said:
Even a 60% should be considered a win for the film considering the woeful (and merited) reception of the first two trailers, and it's more evidence of a "meh" reaction then the cinematic scarring a lot of the film's detractors were expecting, but I wouldn't wrap a bow around it and say "the critics like it" any more than I agreed with the last thread suggesting they hated it. I anticipate a rather tepid comedic outing that is carried...when it works...by the charisma of its leads, and workmanlike direction from Feig.
As pointed out in the previous thread, the original film only carries a 67% on Metacritic. This is based on a terribly small sample size of only 7 critics, but it's worth noting that films history remembers as cultural touchstones/unassailable classics aren't always as highly regarded in their day. This was touched on briefly during the furor over Force Awakens, when it was pointed out that "Empire Strikes Back" was raked by critics upon release for being "derivative" of the original film.
None of that is to suggest Feig's Ghostbusters is going to be remembered 30 years from now as being some kind of genre classic, merely to point out that simply throwing numbers around gleaned off a review aggregate site or a couple of choice review quips doesn't add up to a whole lot if you're genuinely trying to parse community response to a particular piece of media. RT especially is known to be problematic due to its binary method of determining "quality" and the fact it's owned by a company whose sole purpose for existing is selling film tickets.
I repeat what I said in he locked thread: this movie is too politicized to take reviews seriously (especially from any reviewer that has mocked the idea of objectivity). Some went in to hate it. Some are so desperate to like it because feminism they'll be more forgiving of things they'd pulverize a Seth Rogan or Adam Sandler flick for, and some no doubt are just trying to avoid what happened to James Rolfe. I don't trust reviews for comedies under the best of circumstances as humor is so personal and subjective, and these are far from the best of circumstances.
I get both sides are anxious to gloat, but I'm waiting for second week results. While I'd certainly laugh at the karma if the "hostile to critics and older fans" marketing made this lose out to Finding Droy a month later, I don't expect it to. Now I'm more interested in how this will hold up once the political / fuck you watches are out and it's a question of "will this movie make me laugh again when I know all the jokes.
I get both sides are anxious to gloat, but I'm waiting for second week results. While I'd certainly laugh at the karma if the "hostile to critics and older fans" marketing made this lose out to Finding Droy a month later, I don't expect it to. Now I'm more interested in how this will hold up once the political / fuck you watches are out and it's a question of "will this movie make me laugh again when I know all the jokes.
I agree, the binary set up tend to hides the range of responses to movies. However I was careful enough to say critics "liked" it, not that it was a solid 7/10 movie. I think that it is funny that a lot of people can't even swallow that small a pill.BloatedGuppy said:
Is it though? Is it funny?maninahat said:
Generally I find the fact that otherwise intelligent people get married to their preconceptions to be abundantly sad.
So... It's ok?
Fair enough, somehow I got the odd feeling that if the trailer wasn't the wreck it was people everyone would be "It's out, and it's ok" only to be forgotten a week later like the Robocop remake. (Remember that was a thing?)
So in some bizarre way the bad publicity actually helped the film.
Still not gonna watch though, I didn't really liked Bridesmaid or the type humor it was going for and I still think that Ghostbusters 2016 is that with Ghostbusting in it.
Fair enough, somehow I got the odd feeling that if the trailer wasn't the wreck it was people everyone would be "It's out, and it's ok" only to be forgotten a week later like the Robocop remake. (Remember that was a thing?)
So in some bizarre way the bad publicity actually helped the film.
Still not gonna watch though, I didn't really liked Bridesmaid or the type humor it was going for and I still think that Ghostbusters 2016 is that with Ghostbusting in it.
I entertain the possibility, I just have doubts there are that many in the mix if for no other reason than my firm belief that without the controversy we have, we'd be having the normal fight of how we liked the "fun popcorn flick" the critics panned because "fun popcorn flick".maninahat said:
I'm not sure why it's particularly surprising: the MO of basically all reboots over the past decade seems to be 'it's ok, but you'll forget about it a day later', which seems to be the general consensus of the reviews.
Total Recall, RoboCop, the Hitcher, Hills have Eyes, the myriad of horror movie reboots, etc. have all been 'it's all right, but not at all memorable' (well ok, Point Break was awful).
Total Recall, RoboCop, the Hitcher, Hills have Eyes, the myriad of horror movie reboots, etc. have all been 'it's all right, but not at all memorable' (well ok, Point Break was awful).
Well one thing this has done is that it has notified me that there is a button on Rottentomatoes to filter the reviews to their "top critics". I started going through a few recent big name movies and something that I noticed is that when a movie is good, the 2 sets of reviewers are in sync (usually within 1%). When a movie is bad, the top critics rate it ~10-15 percent lower. Ghost Busters, as it turns out, drops from 79% down to 53% when you filter.
See, I don't think the reviews validate it as a good movie, anymore than I thought it was legit that people took two reviews and went See? See?
I'm still going to wait and see it on home video or digital down the line.
I don't think there was any honest debate over whether or not this was going to be an excellent or terrible movie. I think the only question in most people's minds was whether or not it'd be fun and enjoyable.
I'm still going to wait and see it on home video or digital down the line.
I don't think there was any honest debate over whether or not this was going to be an excellent or terrible movie. I think the only question in most people's minds was whether or not it'd be fun and enjoyable.
God, if you can't trust the opinions of people on the internet with an ax to grind, who can you trust?AccursedTheory said:
That's ridiculous. We don't wear jackboots. They're not ergonomic!Abyssal Dancer said:
The issue I have is that you look at the % score on rotten tomatoes and then you actually READ the reviews. So far there have been paragraphs and comments in them that usually relate to a 40/50 % movie. I'm serious, look at all the "it does have major flaws" comments in the reviews giving it 80's... how is that happening? (sighs) - I really do hope that it hasn't all been "look, give it 70 or 80 and say its good, write what you actually think in buried paragraphs... nobody reads that, well the groups who we don't wanna offend, they'll only look at the score."
PS - Metacritic is currently running at 63% and neither site has any reviews from the public yet.
Sooo... still not going to see it, unless it gets RAVE reviews from two reviewers I trust (and have not reviewed it yet). But I would say a movie, based on a previously immensely popular universe, with a large budget thrown at it, should have done WAY better than it has on reviews. This does NOT bode well and smacks of "support the girls and their metrosexual director."
PS - Metacritic is currently running at 63% and neither site has any reviews from the public yet.
Sooo... still not going to see it, unless it gets RAVE reviews from two reviewers I trust (and have not reviewed it yet). But I would say a movie, based on a previously immensely popular universe, with a large budget thrown at it, should have done WAY better than it has on reviews. This does NOT bode well and smacks of "support the girls and their metrosexual director."
An odd comment, considering I was, just 3 minutes ago, talking to my Dad about literally grinding an axe (He picked up a rusty but apparently uncommon debarking axe, and he's quite proud of his work on fixing it).Something Amyss said:
Should I be afraid? Are you stalking me?
What? No! How absurd a comment! I can't believe you would say that!AccursedTheory said:
...by the way, you've got something in your teeth. It's been bothering me all morning.
The original had 98% on Rotten Tomatoes, people were certain that anything this movie tried would be a step backwards, especially with everything indicating it, but at the very least it holds a candle to the original. And I'm not gonna lie, the CGI is terrible and the trailers are beyond horrific, but I just learned that this particular director has a history with bad trailers for good movies (Bridesmaids come to mind) and that gadget in the trailer they had that allowed one them to punch a ghost... I saw potential in that.
I still have to see it to talk more about it, but simply knowing that's not gonna be a Alvin and the Chipminks-style soulless reboot pandering to what they think people nowadays are into is already a relief. Also, is it a reboot or a remake, with a title like this I honestly can't tell
I still have to see it to talk more about it, but simply knowing that's not gonna be a Alvin and the Chipminks-style soulless reboot pandering to what they think people nowadays are into is already a relief. Also, is it a reboot or a remake, with a title like this I honestly can't tell
I'll have to see it to believe it. But I probably won't see it so I'll go on not caring either way.
I still have no interest in seeing it. I mean theres very few movies this year that'll actually get me into the theater and a stupid ghost comedy isn't it.
Suicide Squad or bust yo.
I think the people worshipping Ghostbusters like it's some sort of sacred cow are.... I mean i watched the original. It's okay, that's about the best I can say about it. I watched it once, have no urge to see it again.
Suicide Squad or bust yo.
I think the people worshipping Ghostbusters like it's some sort of sacred cow are.... I mean i watched the original. It's okay, that's about the best I can say about it. I watched it once, have no urge to see it again.