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M3707ik post=9.71383.790157 said:
We cant change it because there a lot of girl gamers. Sure there are good professionals like Clan PMS. But there arent alot of recreational girl gamers. And a portion of girl gamers just get the wii, guitar hero, DDR and wii sports, and dont get anything more and none of those games have "Perfect Women" in them.
Sweeping generalisation. My sister owns a SNES and a PS2. But that's not the point really. If female gamers are ignored by publishers, then why don't male gamers help speak up for them? I don't know, this seems to have been getting worse up to about a year ago but I guess it has been getting better. I look at Valve, Resident Evil and Silent Hill games and I think why can't all games be as... respectful, for want of a better word.
 

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Unless we get 10million american women to start buying video games and playing them seriously (god please) i doubt there is going to be any change on the part of the industry, especially concidering that the themes of games are decided by a small group of VIP's in each company, while the programmers who tend to be progreesive are shut out.

edit1-And also the VIP's are sometimes more concerned with money then progresivism and quality.

edit2-iS progresivism a word
 

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Also you cant be a gamer and only have a PS2 and an NES. GAmers are people who want to see the industry puched foward and constatly critique games because they want to acheive that. Its hard to do that when ur using a generation old console.

Not to be a prick or anything.
 

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And also Ashley from resident evil was so stupid she couldnt figure out how to run ion the oposite dirrection from zombies.
 

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M3707ik post=9.71383.790227 said:
Also you cant be a gamer and only have a PS2 and an NES. GAmers are people who want to see the industry puched foward and constatly critique games because they want to acheive that. Its hard to do that when ur using a generation old console.

Not to be a prick or anything.
Maybe she doesn't go on forums and complain about how overrated Halo is but she's still a gamer in the sense she plays games from time to time. She also plays on her roommates PS3 and thought GTA4 was extremely overrated. Does she qualify now?

Anyway, prove to me that woman look "perfect" and acting like whores is crucial to gameplay then I'll listen to your point about developers.

M3707ik post=9.71383.790233 said:
And also Ashley from resident evil was so stupid she couldnt figure out how to run ion the oposite dirrection from zombies.
Have you played any other RE game? What about Claire Redfield? Ada Wong? Jill Valentine? I'll give Capcom the benefit of the doubt and say she was meant to be a bit like that as a narative device, a bit of a ditsy Valley Girl who needed rescuing. Looking at the lead females of the series I think that could be a reasonable assumption.

And do you have some sort of rigidly enforced post edit limit?
 

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The_root_of_all_evil post=9.71383.789776 said:
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Will do :)

Although I have to say that my knowlegde of men with little to no ego is limited. So maybe there are some men out there who think they're unattractive.
Or maybe it's because most of my male friends are really attractive. What a shame.
There's a little something in that.
Most women are very shy about their appearance, but almost certainly receive compliments daily.
Most men are also as shy, but receive few, if any, compliments on their appearance, so they 'big themselves up'.
Man -> Woman : "You look nice"; W:"No I don't...my [body area] is too [small/large]"
Woman -> Man : "You look nice"; M: "I HAZ A NEW GIRLFRIEND!"

;) (liberties taken on both sides)
And that is why men don't receive man compliments.

i can't tell you how many times I have Said to a guy- "Oh HAI"
Or- "I like your shirt/tie/goggles(I go to goth clubs)/Haha you're funny!"
And then suddenly they are asking for my number/ asking to take me out/ start putting their arm around me.
I then tell them I have a boyfriend whom I've been dating for five years.
They still ask me out, ask if we can hang out, put their arm around me.
I then say I'm not looking for a good time (with them)
They still ask me out, want to hang out, put their arm around me.


But back on topic. Both sexes are totally exploited in Video Games.

Yet, let's look at it this way with Soul Calibur as an example:
Men with all those muscles (because they work out in the gym for 8 hours a day) Make sense! They beat people up, lift ten damsels in distress at a time to save them, and wield a sword bigger than a couch like it's a toothpick. But It's a fighting game. So it makes sense! Though they still have overly dramatic muscles.

Now the women- Have bigger tits than Pamela Anderson and the Fetish model Dahlia Dark Combined! How is that an asset in a fighting game? Seriously?
Voldo is the only one that I see that is as ridiculously dressed as the women.
Even the little girl, Amy, has a skirt on that barely come down low enough...

So I think that's mostly our complaint as women. While the guys in the game look super buff, It's not like we haven't seen guys that buff before from working out (maybe taking steroids) and stuff, but it makes sense. Ivy, doesn't make sense! Nor will her outfit or physique ever make sense!
 

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Its not crusual but its what sells games to non-gamers. You must have misunderstood me becuase i put that the ass-whole VIP's who run the companys tend to ask that to be put in. Not all of them but alot of them. They replace quality with whores and it pisses me off to no end. The developers and programmers are the progressive ones who want their game to be amazing and i wish they were in charge more often.

And about the gamer thing. Your sister is what i like to call a Casual GAmer. Not one of those mini game player like peggle and pac-man, god no i dont consider them gamers unless they are like the record setters. Your sister makes opinions which is good, but does she have a favorite developer, does she quote games in diologue, does she follow game trailers and news, does she forum, does she hate developers for making shitty games over and over again. These are some basic qualities a gamer should have. Gamer is a word way overused.
 

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M3707ik post=9.71383.790227 said:
Also you cant be a gamer and only have a PS2 and an NES. GAmers are people who want to see the industry puched foward and constatly critique games because they want to acheive that. Its hard to do that when ur using a generation old console.

Not to be a prick or anything.
Can you still be a gamer if all you play is titles? What the media tells you to play?
"Oh!hohoho! I'm such a gamer! I've played FFX and Soul Calibur! What's Half Life?"
 

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M3707ik post=9.71383.790262 said:
Its not crusual but its what sells games to non-gamers. You must have misunderstood me becuase i put that the ass-whole VIP's who run the companys tend to ask that to be put in. Not all of them but alot of them. They replace quality with whores and it pisses me off to no end. The developers and programmers are the progressive ones who want their game to be amazing and i wish they were in charge more often.

And about the gamer thing. Your sister is what i like to call a Casual GAmer. Not one of those mini game player like peggle and pac-man, god no i dont consider them gamers unless they are like the record setters. Your sister makes opinions which is good, but does she have a favorite developer, does she quote games in diologue, does she follow game trailers and news, does she forum, does she hate developers for making shitty games over and over again. These are some basic qualities a gamer should have. Gamer is a word way overused.
Haha, I don't mean to sound rude, but could you be more elitist as a gamer?

So it seems you agree with what I'm saying after all, so why put up with it? And you seriously know someone who buys game because of tits? That's sad.
 

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13 pages?
My response as a girl gamer.
GET OVER IT!
Men will always be dominant and so what if girls have huge boobs and small articles of clothing, and the women are perfect in games? You're going to stop playing games because they make you self conscious about YOUR image? You don't hear men complain about how unrealistic the guys are, or how hot they make the men in FF.

This is exactly why guy gamers HATE girl gamers. You complain about stupid things and are overly sensitive. You want them to take you seriously? Be confident. Say what is important and stop being a hypocrite.

Girls complain about how men treat them lowly and are always saying "oh I dont need a man to open my doors or to compliment me or pay for my dinner. Men are douschebags who only care about what I look instead of what I am"
BS!!!
You say that because YOU don't have a man to open your doors or to tell you you're beautiful and most of them aren't dousche bags anymore. Girls are the bitches.

I'm going to stop ranting before I get banned.
 

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Phoenix Arrow post=9.71383.790273 said:
So it seems you agree with what I'm saying after all, so why put up with it? And you seriously know someone who buys game because of tits? That's sad.
Uhh... Dead or Alive.
Who didn't buy that game because of the tits?
 

M3707ik

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Elitist.... never been called tht B4. Well i guess that makes sence. I simply think that gamers should imerse themselves in their culture. I love every minute of it. Doesnt meen devoting your life to it. It means not putting up with God Awful games and becoming a not so acitve member of the video gaming community.

And to answer your question, I dont after buying Soulcalibur 4, or NAked Women 4 revenge of the Tities, I refused to put up with it. I cant stop them from being made or bought but im certainitly not buying any more of them.

No u cannot be a gamer if all you play is games with tities.
 

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motokemu post=9.71383.790281 said:
Phoenix Arrow post=9.71383.790273 said:
So it seems you agree with what I'm saying after all, so why put up with it? And you seriously know someone who buys game because of tits? That's sad.
Uhh... Dead or Alive.
Who didn't buy that game because of the tits?
Me. My ex bought the volleyball one, I played it few times. Minigames were fun but there weren't really enough of them. The whole friendships thing could get hilarious.
 

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It's like saying you say American Pie because it was a good movie not because there were boobs in it.

More power to you if you bought the game for the game.
 

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(Cough) Off topic (COugh)

-Edit okay after reading a bit more closely it is a little bit of a more ligit arguemtn go on
 

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The main problem with DOA 4 is that no real gamer would buy the damned thing unless they wanted to rip it apart (verbally).

Edit- Based on my definition of gamer.
 

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motokemu post=9.71383.790278 said:
13 pages?
My response as a girl gamer.
GET OVER IT!
Men will always be dominant and so what if girls have huge boobs and small articles of clothing, and the women are perfect in games? You're going to stop playing games because they make you self conscious about YOUR image? You don't hear men complain about how unrealistic the guys are, or how hot they make the men in FF.

This is exactly why guy gamers HATE girl gamers. You complain about stupid things and are overly sensitive. You want them to take you seriously? Be confident. Say what is important and stop being a hypocrite.

Girls complain about how men treat them lowly and are always saying "oh I dont need a man to open my doors or to compliment me or pay for my dinner. Men are douschebags who only care about what I look instead of what I am"
BS!!!
You say that because YOU don't have a man to open your doors or to tell you you're beautiful and most of them aren't dousche bags anymore. Girls are the bitches.

I'm going to stop ranting before I get banned.
Wow. How old are you little girl?
Have you figured out yet that gamer guys basically can only date gamer girls? And vice versa?
have you figured out yet that most gamer guys would agree that the huge Triple D's they see on screen are a joke and stupid?

"Girls complain about how men treat them lowly and are always saying "oh I dont need a man to open my doors or to compliment me or pay for my dinner. Men are douschebags who only care about what I look instead of what I am""
Tell me, have you ever heard yourself, a woman say Those exact words? I always hear people tells stories about some woman, they've never met, nor can they attest to her existing, saying shit like that.

Douchebags anymore?
What is that even supposed to mean? Are you agreeing that they all were at some point?

Both men and women are objectified in games. And you want to know something? This doesn't help guys any more than it helps girls.Women being objectified means something is wrong with society. men being objectified means there is something wrong with society. AND no matter how much you rant and *****, (yes, you are bitching) That woman need to shut up- Think about what you are saying!
 

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motokemu post=9.71383.790307 said:
It's like saying you say American Pie because it was a good movie not because there were boobs in it.

More power to you if you bought the game for the game.
Well, my ex was quite the fighting game fanatic. Guess it makes sense to have the whole set.

Alliecat, that post was spot on. I should probably point out that I'm a guy and I'm the one who's been arguing the most about this.