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ohgodalex

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You don't think of Halo as a "boy game?" What sort of gender roles does the media in your country promote?
 

la-le-lu-li-lo

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OMG, did you say something about sparkles or clothes or ponies!?

No? Ohh...

Back to reality... I enjoy blowing raider brains all over the place just as much as the next guy. More so even than some of the manly men I know.

So basically, I just ignore stuff like this. If they can make money selling crap like that to girls, good for them. I'll stick to my 'man games'.
 

garjian

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well... reading round this... everyone on target audiences and all that nonsense...

everyone knows... the only true girl games out there are rumble massage, a perfect massage, and remote massues... all for xbla and cheap!

back to target audiences...

BLAH BLAH BLAH... oh the sexism oh fuck the sexism... how will you live with the sexism..?

if you like these games that are aimed at you... good.
if you dont... good.
if you dont like any games... well... that would make it a lot more awkward to talk with you... so that would make our date just that bit awkward... and thats bad for both of us :<

play whatever you feel like...
and stop acting like everyone is so taken in by one advert or some box art...

if it bothers you that much... buy yourself rumble massage and forget all your troubles...
...just clean the pad before i next use it k?
 

BoxCutter

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garjian said:
well... reading round this... everyone on target audiences and all that nonsense...

everyone knows... the only true girl games out there are rumble massage, a perfect massage, and remote massues... all for xbla and cheap!

back to target audiences...

BLAH BLAH BLAH... oh the sexism oh fuck the sexism... how will you live with the sexism..?

if you like these games that are aimed at you... good.
if you dont... good.
if you dont like any games... well... that would make it a lot more awkward to talk with you... so that would make our date just that bit awkward... and thats bad for both of us :<

play whatever you feel like...
and stop acting like everyone is so taken in by one advert or some box art...

if it bother you that much... buy yourself rumble massage and forget all your troubles...
...just clean the pad before i next use it k?
What the hell just happened?
 

Xvito

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Susan Arendt said:
Xvito said:
Susan Arendt said:
You know, people frequently say that girls shouldn't be forced to play so-called girl games, or be shoehorned into some stereotype about ponies and pink sparkles, and that's certainly true, but here's the thing: some girls like ponies and pink sparkles. Some girls enjoy games about shopping and makeup and boyfriends and all the other things that those of us who grew up killing aliens find vapid and pointless. They're not wrong for liking them, they're just different from the rest of us.

There's nothing wrong with "girl" games except for when they're the only option -- but that's true of any kind of games.
They could at least try to make a good game about "ponies and pink sparkles". If someone made a high-budget game for that audience I would surely salute them!

As long as it isn't named... "This is what you should be like!"

Also, I would like to say that article in itself is actually a bit sexist, assuming certain things about the female population.

--Xvito, keeping it excellent.
If the intended audience enjoys playing them, then they are good games. The standards of the serious gamer are simply not shared by the rest of the population. Things that are deeply important to us simply don't matter to them. Is it cute? Is it fun? Do they get a giggle out of it? That's all they need to be blissfully happy.

And just because a girl likes girly things, that doesn't mean she's destined to be labeled for the rest of her life. I had Barbies aplenty when I was little, liked nothing more than paper dolls, and dressed as a princess for more than one Halloween. Look where I am now. :)
I see your point. However, inside sources, i.e girls I know, tell me that they don't find these kinds of games amusing. More to the point of them really disliking them actually.

I believe that there aren't any (maybe some...) girls that truly like these games and that they're more likely being forced upon them by peer-pressure or parents that want a "normal" child. Now I'm not saying that this doesn't happen with boys as well... It does. Although not with the same things, obviously. That said, the problem isn't really the games, it's the fact the they're for girls. And the fact that this implies that girls should be raised accordingly.

I also played with Barbie-dolls and Paper-dolls when I was younger ;)

--Xvito, keeping it excellent.
 

Herb sewell

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la-le-lu-li-lo said:
Bible Doctor said:
What the hell just happened?
I'm not sure... I was wondering the same.

Was he insinuating I masturbate with the rumble feature?? What?
la-le-lu-li-lo said:
OMG, did you say something about sparkles or clothes or ponies!?

No? Ohh...

Back to reality... I enjoy blowing raider brains all over the place just as much as the next guy. More so even than some of the manly men I know.

So basically, I just ignore stuff like this. If they can make money selling crap like that to girls, good for them. I'll stick to my 'man games'.
Don't lie i've seen your copy of barbie horse adventure.
 

la-le-lu-li-lo

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Bible Doctor said:
Either that or hes asking me out on a date
Maybe both! And that's just talent.

Herb sewell said:
Don't lie i've seen your copy of barbie horse adventure.
That's My Little Pony Adventure to you!! I'll delete your save if you talk bad about it, say goodbye to Sprinkles!
 

garjian

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la-le-lu-li-lo said:
Bible Doctor said:
What the hell just happened?
I'm not sure... I was wondering the same.

Was he insinuating I masturbate with the rumble feature?? What?
im just joking around :>
dont take it so seriously... :/
 

Susan Arendt

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Xvito said:
I see your point. However, inside sources, i.e girls I know, tell me that they don't find these kinds of games amusing. More to the point of them really disliking them actually.

I believe that there aren't any (maybe some...) girls that truly like these games and that they're more likely being forced upon them by peer-pressure or parents that want a "normal" child. Now I'm not saying that this doesn't happen with boys as well... It does. Although not with the same things, obviously. That said, the problem isn't really the games, it's the fact the they're for girls. And the fact that this implies that girls should be raised accordingly.

I also played with Barbie-dolls and Paper-dolls when I was younger ;)

--Xvito, keeping it excellent.
And I can point to a number of girls who simply adore games like this. And the games aren't implying that girls should or shouldn't do anything at all. Nowhere in the game or marketing does it say "if you're not like this, you're weird." There's nothing wrong with targeting a product at a particular group -- games get targeted to the core audience all the time, and no-one bats an eye.

Gender politics is prickly business, but until they remove all other games from the shelf and tell little girls they can only play one of these, shall we say, less than imaginative titles, let's not get too crazy.

Let's also keep in mind that little children in general love feeling as though they belong to a specific group, that something is theirs and not yours -- or, more to the point, not their sibling's. "You can't have this game, it's just for girls and you're a stinky old boy!" would not be something unusual for a young girl to say. Videogames are, by and large, still considered to be boys' toys' (at least at that age), so having something specifically spelled out for a little girl might make it just that much more appealing to her.

Mind you, I'm talking about very young girls, 10 at the most. Ones who still dream of growing up, marrying the Jonas brothers, and living in a castle with hot and cold running ice cream. :)
 

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garjian said:
la-le-lu-li-lo said:
Bible Doctor said:
What the hell just happened?
I'm not sure... I was wondering the same.

Was he insinuating I masturbate with the rumble feature?? What?
im just joking around :>
dont take it so seriously... :/
la-le-lu-li-lo said:
garjian said:
Im just joking around :>
dont take it so seriously... :/
I was more confused than anything else sir.
I'm still extremely confused as to what just transpired in this thread.
 

Herb sewell

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la-le-lu-li-lo said:
Bible Doctor said:
Either that or hes asking me out on a date
Maybe both! And that's just talent.

Herb sewell said:
Don't lie i've seen your copy of barbie horse adventure.
That's My Little Pony Adventure to you!! I'll delete your save if you talk bad about it, say goodbye to Sprinkles!
Sprinkles no!!!!!!!! I just got the Shiny Saddle!
 

Xvito

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Susan Arendt said:
Xvito said:
I see your point. However, inside sources, i.e girls I know, tell me that they don't find these kinds of games amusing. More to the point of them really disliking them actually.

I believe that there aren't any (maybe some...) girls that truly like these games and that they're more likely being forced upon them by peer-pressure or parents that want a "normal" child. Now I'm not saying that this doesn't happen with boys as well... It does. Although not with the same things, obviously. That said, the problem isn't really the games, it's the fact the they're for girls. And the fact that this implies that girls should be raised accordingly.

I also played with Barbie-dolls and Paper-dolls when I was younger ;)

--Xvito, keeping it excellent.
And I can point to a number of girls who simply adore games like this. And the games aren't implying that girls should or shouldn't do anything at all. Nowhere in the game or marketing does it say "if you're not like this, you're weird." There's nothing wrong with targeting a product at a particular group -- games get targeted to the core audience all the time, and no-one bats an eye.

Gender politics is prickly business, but until they remove all other games from the shelf and tell little girls they can only play one of these, shall we say, less than imaginative titles, let's not get too crazy.

Let's also keep in mind that little children in general love feeling as though they belong to a specific group, that something is theirs and not yours -- or, more to the point, not their sibling's. "You can't have this game, it's just for girls and you're a stinky old boy!" would not be something unusual for a young girl to say. Videogames are, by and large, still considered to be boys' toys' (at least at that age), so having something specifically spelled out for a little girl might make it just that much more appealing to her.

Mind you, I'm talking about very young girls, 10 at the most. Ones who still dream of growing up, marrying the Jonas brothers, and living in a castle with hot and cold running ice cream. :)
If the girls are that young... And they don't take it as advice on how to live their lives then it's okay...

... Actually, now that I think about it, why would they take it seriously. I mean, if teenage boys aren't affected by GTA 4 (they aren't... screw you Mr. Thompson), then why would little girls be affected by "Hannah Montana Princess Pony Mania".

I guess... You're kind of right.

--Xvito, keeping it... PONIES!.
 

garjian

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la-le-lu-li-lo said:
garjian said:
Im just joking around :>
dont take it so seriously... :/
I was more confused than anything else sir.
see this is what happens when i come straight from the apb forums (where im really random) onto here... (where im not) :< it spills out everywhere and makes a big mess... like this...
 

la-le-lu-li-lo

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Bible Doctor said:
I'm still extremely confused as to what just transpired in this thread.
Me too... [small]I'm scared.[/small]

Herb sewell said:
Sprinkles no!!!!!!!! I just got the Shiny Saddle!
That's what I thought.

Xvito said:
--Xvito, keeping it... PONIES!.
You make a good point. As long as the girls don't take this nonsense too seriously, it's all good.
 

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Halfbreed13 said:
If I ever had a female child, I think I'll just give her Silent Hill and let her whack some monsters oldschool.
Nawww, give her Abe's Exodus. It did me a lot of good. And it's a friggin' cool game.

(And it's a lot less 'holy-shit-scary'...)

Those are not Girl Games. Those are Idiotic Tween Shit Fests.
 

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Not even touching the bad message some of those games send (Diss and Make Up is just nnngh), My Boyfriend only offers five guys? That's so cheap. Tokimeki Memorial Girl's Side gives you eleven, twelve if you count the (creepy) fact that it is possible, if you work really hard at it (on the DS version), to get your little brother, who is, like, eleven or twelve (apparently, people complained it wasn't possible to get him in the original PS2 version, so the game devs added it in to the DS release. Ahh, Japan, always bringing the creepy to the yard).

C'mon, guys, step up to the plate. Five? C'mon now, try harder.