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ThreeWords

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Palademon said:
A noob who can't even spell proclaiming to be an old guy who knows his shit.
This struck me most. He 'has three degrees'(?), and claims to be, what, at least 30? I stopped writing like that when I was 12. Furthermore, I know of no one above the age of 30 who doesn't check what they're writing; high speed stupidity on the interwebz is the domain of the young, not the 30-year-olds

Oh, and furthermore:
old_school said:
New invention called hair gel. Buy some.
Like the science teacher starting a sentence with "And as it says in Genesis...", that just undermines your credibility in every way; even if you mean well, you're advice should be taken with a pinch of salt.
 

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For those who had a TL;DR problem, I'll summarise thusly

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Toodles!
You have just made my day, and probably my week as well. Thanks for that.

OT: I'm sorry but I read up until "Get hair gell, problem solved" and then stopped. THat's not advice.

Anyway that's why there is BonsaiK here and as far as I know he does a lot better job.
 

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Just a wee deconstruction here, won't take too long: (Wall of text incoming)

old_school said:
Wow so many "I have girl problem" posts. I'm an older guy so Ill "shoot" this to the young guys head on.
We're nerds, did you miss the meeting we all had about girls? Also, 'shoot' isn't enough of an idiomatic term to need quotation marks, we know that you are not literally shooting us.

Rules
Don't Screw your friends. You don't mess with a girl whom you have been freinds with forever. screws things up badly. An you screw your self in the end.
This is actually quite reasonable, if a bit obvious (and could have even just have been simplified to 'don't be a dick').

If you suffer from the "I'm a dork" symdrome. Wonderful. New invention called hair gel. Buy some. An buy the more expensive D.O. for your B.O. Basicly clean your self up. Any one can date any women any day. Their is no leages. If you want a girl to like you. Stop right there. No trick to tricking women into "liking" you.
Doesn't apply to everyone for starters. And if someone being a 'dork' (although I believe the word kids these days are using is actually nerd) is a major issue then I don't think that all the hair gel and deorderant in the world will change that. And 'any man can date any woman' is complete bollocks, people have standards and things they like and don't like in people for a reason.

All women have desires etc. Make your self appear desirable duh. Most women enjoy conversations that are humorus and intel. Be your self as well, no one like a fake dork. That just deems you as a lier and a dork. An no one wants to date a lier. Dork is passable if your "cool". In the sense your easy going and fun to be around. An do not discuss sex, penus sizes etc. Every girl hears this crap everyday. Guess what your peter ant happening. Discuss something interesting. Not sexual unless its a joke or funny. Even then your walking a thin line.
So don't fake yourself but make yourself what they desire, isn't that contradictary?

"Im shy!"Really? Get over it!
For starters, being shy isn't something people can always just 'get over' (for some people it can be a serious mental or emotional problem), this isn't so much advice as calling a huge portion of people out there pussies under the impression that 'really, I'm helping you'. Also, some women find shyness attractive.

"I'm fat". Who cares. Put down the fork and make your self desireable.
Some people appreciate a 'larger individual' (so losing weight doesn't always make one 'desireable'). Also, this is just bordering on flat out insulting people (remember, you're trying to boost people's confidence, not diminish it, insulting people needlessly is just making you a part of the problem).

"She said no". Great, now date her best friend.
That's the kind of crap someone who calls themselves a 'playa' or a 'pimp' would say, while there's truth to the saying 'there are plenty more fish in the sea', this doesn't mean that you should just ove from one woman to another (that's a bit of a dick move actually).

Conculsion:
Finally! It's almost over!

Most of you are in deed kids. Little story about my self. I was a true dork in school. Guess what, I grew up. High school lasts four years. The shame you recived from school ends on graduation night. No one cares after that day. So get over it. When I went to my 10 year reunion, I was probly the most talked to guy. Why? Because I grew up. I enlisted in the military, went to college and recived three degrees n various fields. Plus I was no longer nerdy, I lead a very interesting life. The "High School Cool Guy", lead the life of welfare. An about 50 lbs later, he entered the room.
Yes, once you finish school it's all over and done with but for people who are still going through it that's still a cold comfort, some people may stop caring after graduation but there are others who are left with bad memories and issues that last a long long time after (a child with abusive parents may have moved out but the memories of their childhood will still be with them). You were the most talked to guy?

Great, lots of people wouldn't give a shit (honestly, I wouldn't want to talk to most of the people I went to school with).

You enlisted in the military and got degrees? Great, you're effectively a hired killer with an education (I think I'd rather achieve my degrees and diplomas without having to get shot at, the Army seems like the stupid way out to me).

Also, why do you connect nerdiness with childishness? Nerds can be man-childs but some of the most mature people I know are of a 'nerdy' disposition (depending how you define 'grown up'), and even bedroom bound nerds can lead interesting lives (the important part of this is that it is we who determine whether our lives are interesting or not, you shouldn't be pushed into doing something just because 'it's what you're supposed to do' according to that jackass with 50 or more friends).

You guys want to lead happy lives? Go to college, enlist in the military, learn a skill trade, marry for true love etc. List goes on forever. Think with your brain, not your other head. Use common sense and set small realistic goals for your self. Be realistic when making choices. My life long goal is to be a pilot. Guess what, it's a realistic goal. I set my life up for success, so someday I can afford private lessions for learning how to fly.
You want to lead a happy life? Ignore the bollocks this guy's spewing, you want to live a happy life then just be content and happy with yourself, if you are the kind of guy who wishes to sit around and play video games, then do just that (as long as it is your choice and what you want to do with your life).

Never let anyone try to tell you that what you do isn't worthy and that you're wasting your life, you do not have to live up to their standards.

All of you have the power today to determine your own future and sucess. You have dreams? Set your self up for sucess. Your looking at a guy who had failure written all over his self in high school. Knocked up my high school sweet heart at 17. I did not have super good grades and I came from a broken home.
Good for you? There are plenty more people out there who didn't have super grades and a broken home and now they are sitting poverty and slowly drinking themselves to death. Just as there are plenty of people who opted to join the army after school and got themselves killed in the line of duty (how many near death experiences did you have? How many people did you have to kill? How do you live with that?), and then there are veterans who come back to poverty, depression and post tramatic stress disorder (did you never hear about the large number of Vietnam vets who committed suicide afeter their cold welcome back to the US?).

Just because you have things good does not mean everyone will.

An yet I made something of my self. An you can to. Honestly I fill I owe my sucess to the lessons learned becoming a United States Marine. However, you may find a different path. Everyone is different. Set your goals and follow through. Their are allways challenges placed ahead of you before you reach the goal. Face the problem dead on and move past it. Life is not easy. But it can be completed honorably.
This bit actually has truth to it, nothing worth doing is easy and great reward can come from adversity (but so can crushing and crippling defeat and loss). You've somehow gone off topic from talking about girl problems to how you can make your life better (apparantly) by enlisting in the military (I'm English so this whole idea of the army being a place you want to be is alien to me).

Overall...your advice isn't very good and you went out of your way to insult people on a couple of occasions (apparantly this is a skill you didn't learn in the army).
 

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Anyway that's why there is BonsaiK here and as far as I know he does a lot better job.
Aha! This sounds like proper good advice! I'll top it with a link [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/538.117161-Relationship-problem-thread?page=1] to said thread. Beat that!
 

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I don't know about the "advice" bit, but I got a chuckle out of this.

I'm not really shy, dorky, or pretty much anything else on that list other than possibly needing to lose a few pounds and am a bit of a dork.

Oddly enough, the only problems I have where my gf is concerned is the fact that her dad hates me. XD
 

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ThreeWords said:
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Anyway that's why there is BonsaiK here and as far as I know he does a lot better job.
Aha! This sounds like proper good advice! I'll top it with a link [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/538.117161-Relationship-problem-thread?page=1] to said thread. Beat that!
I'm glad you linked it. I have had no need of that thread (yet ;_;) so I didn't even know what it was.
 

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old_school said:
Yay, now I can get teh women... Yay

On a more serious note, army seriously, most girls I know would prefer their boyfriends alive rather than a thin slice of brown bread that comes out of Afghan, so I'll pass..
I suffer from the 'I'm a dork/nerd syndrome' but it doesn't get in the way, as this equation proves:
(Women = Warhammer x Crack) <-- nah i'm just joking.. but seriously it's a bit generalist to say that most females don't like geeks or slightly differnet/ simple people to macho tanks..

Currently the girl I love is one of my friends, which yes, is a problem but it's not going to stop me asking her out (when I get round to it) because we can still be friends and I don't believe it will get in the way, I know many people who have had long standing relationships who they were with previously friends with..

oh by the way I live in England where people are normal and go for the cute caring kind as opposed to anything our primitive ancestors would have desired.. but thats just England..
 

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I believe the OP was going for a gun-ho approach to motivate those who have diagnosed themselves with psychological maladies so they don't have to deal with the pain that they have associated with social interaction to break out of their shell and take responsibility/control of their own lives.
That's how I interpreted it, anyway.
Typically the best way to help someone is not to shout them into doing it like the army advises but to support them and give them attention and make them feel loved, it worked for me when I had a mental breakdown and it works for others, there isn't a pain with breaking out of the shell, its a over amount of care and self-consciousness that leads to pain, the fear of rejection is the most common cause..

Its not bad to be a man who can't get women (or men even) it just means they are unlucky in creation, some will win and unfortunately some will lose..
 

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That is some truly atrocious advice you have there.
 

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Haha, this is a funny read from post to responses. First off, can we do away with labels/stereotypes? It shouldn't matter. If you are going to like someone, you should like them for who they are, not how they are. Anything else is just, well, shallow. In the long run, people change, then labels do as well. And lastly, the older you get well, labels don't mean much and qualities do. I am 37 years old. I use words like, looks comfortable, liar, *****(both man and woman), asshole(both man and woman), nice, beautiful, etc. instead of bad guy, popular group, nerd, dork, besides I don't even know what the group definitions are anymore because I am afraid they have changed. WTF is bromance? metrosexual?

Being 37 years old and looking back. I have had two great relationships(first love and the one I am in currently), countless failed relationships, and millions of ones that I could have had (from the girls that liked me that I never reciprocated to the ones that got away because I was shy or something to start).

I think the biggest thing that hindered me when I was young from starting a relationship is that I could not express my feelings well. Women, on the other hand, can express their feelings for hours, hell, they can even express more than one different emotion in any given situation for hours. I don't think I could express one emotion with a complete sentence much less listen to someone talk about it and be interested in something I am not familiar with.
Later on in life, I began to think that I need to do what I do best which is rationalize, my feelings for girls. Why do I like her? What do I like about her? Then began to say these things like this to girls(You have great hair, you look good with your hair back, etc.) which got me some relationships with girls. But it goes only so far. After some failed relationships, I realized I need to relate to them by what I feel, read(signs of feelings correctly), express, understand, sympathize those feelings. Sometimes, they don't want you to "fix" it, tell them what to do, or give them advice. They just want you to relate, dig into that gallon ice cream with them, cry with them, just be there for them, etc. Any recommendations on to how to express your feelings with words? I don't know, start to read some trashy romance novel? *shrug* I learned it the hard way, trial and error.

When it comes to shyness, I don't know if there is a cure for that. Heck, I am still shy at times, but the degree in shyness goes away with the more you are sure/confident of yourself. The older I got, the more sure/confident I was of myself. I think confidence comes with being comfortable of who I was. That started to happen when I was identifying myself with jobs that I had. Even the bad jobs I got, I knew what I didn't want to do. The independence I got in college, I was able to take care of myself instead of relying on my parents to do everything for me, gave me alot of confidence as well. Once these things happened, I was much better at getting girls to like me to go out with me.

SORRY FOR THE LONG POST.
 

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I only read the post because I like lolling at all the relationship advice threads. I lolled at the "enrol in the military" part.

Haha, join the military. Murdering somebody makes you a man, ***** - Look how cool I am. *flex*

Please.

It's a gaming forum, I don't want to read this bollocks.
 

Flare Phoenix

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I think what the original poster was TRYING to get at makes a lot of sense: be the best YOU you can be. However, saying that this translates into joining the military is horrible advice. It reminds me of my friends telling me the only way to get a girlfriend is to go to pubs or clubs. Now, I hate pubs and clubs so even if I did find a girl there, chances are it wouldn't last long since we'd probably be so different. Now of course, if you never leave your home chances of actually getting a girlfriend are slim (although not completely impossible...).

I guess the best advice I can give is to just never be fake. If you are fake with a girl, she will figure it out very quickly. Just be yourself: if she doesn't like you, then quite simply it just means you weren't meant to be together. (Personally, I believe there is someone out there for everyone; it's just a matter of finding them)
 

Flare Phoenix

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Also, saying that your friend can never turn into your girlfriend is completely false. Most of the time those turn out to be the best relationships because you're already familiar with the other person. Yes, it can be extremely uncomfortable to transition from friends to "in a relationship", and you do run the risk of losing said friend, but that kind of attitude could keep you from something truly amazing.
 

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Wow about half of you got the point and the rest of you fail. You know why people are depressed? Because they feel sorry for their self. Or they don't see a way out. When in reality, everyone has a choice. You all make the choice to sit and look at the walls around you feeling sad. I have suffered from depression many times.

Losing a job sucks and puts you into a deep depression. But you know what, I get over it. Why? Because if I don't, Ill never get anywhere. I set small goals for my self and archive them. You wanna pick at me for bad grammer spelling what ever. Not everyone is a english teacher sorry I studied Science not english.

Also you all seem to think I have some touch guy complex. Sure why not. Maybe Im just in touch with reality. An understand life is hard. There is no easy buttion to solve problems. An certainly no users manuelly telling you how to make something of your self. Everyone is different and your problems are different. But having the ability to get over it and move forward. Well that will help you successed in life. So go ahead, poke and pick at what I say. I know what I said is true. Why? Because I live the dream everyday I wake up.

Im 100% content with my wife, love being able to sit at home and work. I don't have hardly any bills because I own almost everything in my house. an Ill own my home in less then four more years. You know seriously, I don't expect you kids to truely grasp what I told you. But I do expect you to listen and respect it.

Ever hear the phase "respect your elders". You know why that phase is true? Because we been on this earth alot longer then you. So we pretty much know the answers to all your little problems. Because we too were teenagers at one point too. Now I'm not saying don't post your problems. But I am saying use common sense when trying to figure out the solution. Most of you will be adult in less then 4 years and be expected to get jobs, buy homes, raise famlies etc. Play time is over sorry to say. You think these minor problems suck. Wait till you start paying your own bills. So like I said before, take my advice and set your set up for sucess. Finish High school, Enlist or go to college. Don't worry about the problems of yesterday. Focuss on today and achiving a sucessful future.

PM me in about ten years and let me know if I was right or wroung about this post. Future FYI, your welcome.
 

quiet_samurai

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Three degrees? In what? P.E, bowling, and English as a second language?

Honestly, although alot of what you said is basically true, you sound like a jackass just looking for attention. It rememnded me of some friends I have that give me advice sometimes, and by giving advice I mean telling me how much cooler they are then me in a very polite way because they don't want to ofend, and they only do it because they have issues dealing with their own success, masculinity, and possible sexual orientation.

Breaking someone down and questioning the way they do things and then calling it advice is not advice at all. It's just a way for one to feel superior and a means to reassure themselves with words becasue internally they might not feel the same.

What I'm trying to say is.... this thread is purely masterbatory. Good night.



EDIT: And also, depression isn't just "feeling sad." It's a clinical diagnosis that requires medicine, therapy, or both. Someone with three degrees should know that much.