Give me a stereotype of any genre of music and I will post a song that breaks it.

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Kinguendo

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Cabamacadaf said:
So you don't like it because it's old?
Really? You ask to explain what I mean by something and now that is the only thing I said?

Its boring, all the best of it is over a century old and because of this every "good" piece has become cliched and what isnt cliched isnt worthy of mention. Its stale and boring... like an old piece of bread.
 

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Tadas Kucikas said:
rap and pop. pop and rap songs probably feature these words in da club,bitches,whores,and lyrics how they are dancing to music and lots about clubs
Actually, I would argue that only a minority of hip hop and pop songs contain those phrases or are about those subjects. That minority, however, just happens to be the most marketable.

Here's a list of hip hop artists and groups that have lyrics that are primarily about other, more cerebral subjects. Everything from politically charged lyrics to abstract, soulful poetry.

Aesop Rock
Atmosphere
cLOUDDEAD
13 & God
Antipop Consortium
Blue Scholars
Nujabes
Food for Animals
Madvillain

And I'm relatively new to the genre as well. Most of the hip hop I listen to is more obscure and less mainstream though.


Here's the lyrics: http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858633395/

Don't be fooled by the loudest, most obnoxious majority.
 

Cabamacadaf

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Kinguendo said:
Cabamacadaf said:
So you don't like it because it's old?
Really? You ask to explain what I mean by something and now that is the only thing I said?

Its boring, all the best of it is over a century old and because of this every "good" piece has become cliched and what isnt cliched isnt worthy of mention. Its stale and boring... like an old piece of bread.
All right, I don't agree with you, but I know what you mean.
 

TheLaofKazi

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Kinguendo said:
Wait, I dont think fusions count... Because that means you havent proven Techno isnt, you have proven Techno/Jazz isnt and no one asked that.
Not every little innovation or change in a genre makes it an entirely different genre. I bet you if I didn't call it Techno jazz fusion, people wouldn't be putting up these "it's not techno" arguments. Sure, it was influenced by jazz, but the core of composition, approach and idea still lies with techno. I mean, if you listen closely to song, you can some sampled Arabic singing. So what, this is now called Arabian Techno Jazz Fusion? But oh wait! The song also uses ambient sounds to create a calming mood and texture. So now it's Arabian Ambient Chillout Techno Jazz Fusion! You see what I'm getting at here? The more serious and strictly you take genres, the more ridiculous they get.

Don't take genres too seriously, they are just labels that describe a musical sound. The reason they exist is so we can talk about them, so we can go "I just heard this awesome *insert genre here* song!" and people will have a general idea of what you are talking about. The key word here being general. Genres are vague, there isn't some extremely strict definition of them.
 

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Talon_Skywarp said:
Dub Step sounds like a whale being defiled by bass.

You can't break that one mate! Try as you might...it will always sound like that. And people who like it will describe it as 'phat' and annoy me by ruining every night club
Used this artist once already on this thread but...

(if video embed is not working... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MigURCQQA0)
Some of the most atmospheric music that I've listened to, sparing use of bass, focused instead on percussion and vocal/orchestral samples. Very interesting, massive critical acclaim.
 

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the Dept of Science said:
Some of the most atmospheric music that I've listened to, sparing use of bass, focused instead on percussion and vocal/orchestral samples. Very interesting, massive critical acclaim.
Here you go!

Listening right now. Like it so far.

EDIT: Finished. I shall now go listen to the rest of this man's discography.
 

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Eden the Fox said:
Honestly guys? You're still entertaining him? Really? Just report him and return to the actual topic of the thread. Seriously. =/

But to keep -this- post on topic... Can someone disprove the stereotype that a cover of a song can never be better than the original? =o ... Not really a genre thing... Uh... Rock song... I guess... Or something. >.>;;
Alright, i will try to tackle this. This is opinion basked in the "better" aspect, but here goes. I will shoot for equally as good or better.
I will also hide who the original is by so that you get an unbiased look

99 Red Balloons. (German and/or English Version)
Nena (of course)

We are only going to die for our own arrogance
Bad Religion

[this one is cheating] Keasby Nights
Catch 22, but half of streetlight is catch 22 so its technically a remastering/rerelease

Dear Sergio
Catch 22. Another Thomas Kalnoky song covered by Thomas Kalnoky

Dead Bodies
Rancid

Bob
Nofx

The Brews
Rancid. Its the old switcheroo. Altho its a good CD where rancid and NOFX cover each others songs.

Scarlet Begonias
Shocker? The grateful dead. You mean Sublime was basically a glorified cover band? A-yup. Alot of their songs are covers. They are still really good tho.

Take on Me
Aha!

That was fun. Sorry about the really long post. If you need more examples hit me up.
 

SimpleChimp

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creepy_rabbit said:
Punk bands have awful singers
beat that one!
This is alot of opinion but [not posting the videos for this one] The lead singer of Guttermouth actually has an amazing range in vocal styles and through out his catalog is able to change the way he sings as well and for my money is an amazing singer.

Now on to videos.

Michael Graves - Misfits

Glen Danzig - Misfits

Greg Graffin - Bad Religion

Greg Attonito - Bouncing Souls

Mark Adkins - Guttermouth

Jason Alexander Cruz - Strung out



There are also more poppy punk bands you can list. Or some sexy voiced female singers.
 

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Dys said:
Gangsta rap doesn't work without lyrics.
You know what, I think you're right!

I'm not sure that it works, as such. I'm also rather skeptical that it would be classed as gangsta rap over house/techno/some other genre. gangsta rap is somewhat defined by the lyrics isn't it?
 

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bubba145 said:
well i can be corrcted though the Dropkick Murphys and Flogging Molly might disagree with you.
Alright.

Flogging Molly-

Dropkick Murphys-

And Chu lose!

I'm the weasle! Wheeze the Jah-uice!
 

Kinguendo

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TheLaofKazi said:
Kinguendo said:
Wait, I dont think fusions count... Because that means you havent proven Techno isnt, you have proven Techno/Jazz isnt and no one asked that.
Not every little innovation or change in a genre makes it an entirely different genre. I bet you if I didn't call it Techno jazz fusion, people wouldn't be putting up these "it's not techno" arguments. Sure, it was influenced by jazz, but the core of composition, approach and idea still lies with techno. I mean, if you listen closely to song, you can some sampled Arabic singing. So what, this is now called Arabian Techno Jazz Fusion? But oh wait! The song also uses ambient sounds to create a calming mood and texture. So now it's Arabian Ambient Chillout Techno Jazz Fusion! You see what I'm getting at here? The more serious and strictly you take genres, the more ridiculous they get.

Don't take genres too seriously, they are just labels that describe a musical sound. The reason they exist is so we can talk about them, so we can go "I just heard this awesome *insert genre here* song!" and people will have a general idea of what you are talking about. The key word here being general. Genres are vague, there isn't some extremely strict definition of them.
Yes, I know what you are getting at here... however you are forgetting you called it techno/jazz fusion, not me. You made the distinction between techno and techno/jazz fusion... If it was just techno it would be called techno and it isnt, simple as that.

Also, I didnt listen to the song because I fucking HATE techno dance shite but I believe I know which song you are talking about and I can tell you that song is clearly the worst of the worst. I can normally ignore most dance "music" but when that comes on it just pisses me off... its more irritating than the other dance songs I have heard and I might have heard a lot of them... or one very long one, you really cant tell.

EDIT: Nope, it isnt the song I was thinking of but there in lies the problem... they are so bloody similar mistakes like that happen all the time. Also, I skipped along a couple of times and do you want to know what I heard? The same thing over and over again... and not like a chorus, I mean all the way through just *thump, thump, thump, thump, thump* like every other dance song.
 

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the Dept of Science said:
Talon_Skywarp said:
Dub Step sounds like a whale being defiled by bass.

You can't break that one mate! Try as you might...it will always sound like that. And people who like it will describe it as 'phat' and annoy me by ruining every night club
Used this artist once already on this thread but...

(if video embed is not working... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MigURCQQA0)
Some of the most atmospheric music that I've listened to, sparing use of bass, focused instead on percussion and vocal/orchestral samples. Very interesting, massive critical acclaim.
Bested damn it!

Ok i'll give you this, it hasn't made my ears bleed! Very interesting.

Could you please send this kind of stuff to every DJ in England please? I might enjoy going out if this was on.