Give my Dad reasons NOT to get a Mac!

[Zack McSleuthburger]

Maybe it's just in my experience, but I have a Mac and it's the first functional computer I've ever had. Oh, but wait. People think that anyone with a Mac is automatically a hipster who thinks they're better than everyone else, so everyone else is clearly better than anyone who owns a Mac.

Clearly.

 

[Eisenfaust]

just say "a... mac? sure, get one if you want to... i just didn't know you were one of those kinds of people" and refuse to say anything else... it'll eat at him

 

[superbatranger]

just say "a... mac? sure, get one if you want to... i just didn't know you were one of those kinds of people" and refuse to say anything else... it'll eat at him

Ahaha yes! Make him feel unwanted.

 

[Super Toast]

They don't play games.

Wait, you can Bootcamp it and run games on them fine, not to mention Steam's on it natively now. Um...

See, like that. If you have to tell me "You can install another OS to do something the default OS can't", you're doing something wrong. Telling me I can "Bootcamp it" isn't a selling point in the Mac's favor, it's a point in favor of keeping the Windows computer I already have and a point in favor of getting Windows on my next computer instead of a Mac. You should be telling me things Macs can do that Windows can't, not "here's everything Macs can't do, but it's cool because you can put Windows on it."

Thing being, "they don't play games" is the only valid argument for their inferiority. And even then, that's not exactly a design flaw on the part of the OS, it's just developers playing to the majority market. OSX is a fantastic operating system, much better than Windows has ever aspired to be in my opinion, and the creative design programs available on a Mac (and that come with it out of the box, for that matter) are incredible. The only problem is that most games aren't released for Mac, which Bootcamp solves. I have Windows installed on my Macbook, and the only thing I use it for is playing games. OSX is vastly superior for everything else. It's a solution to the one weakness, and more than worth dealing with. Thus, the only valid complaint against Macs is the price.

And the worse specs. Apple is charging consumers more for less.

 

[Thedutchjelle]

Other than the price thing, I can't help much. They are quite expensive. Also, a friend of mine has a mac and the battery died, meaning she had to buy a super-expensive new one.

Also, please make sure that your dad DOESN'T buy a mac and then install Windows on it. Windows was made to work with a right click and Ctrl+Alt+Del. It's amazing how many times my friend asks me how to do something and I start saying "Easy, right-click, then... Oh, sorry."

And then you forgot the rest? Or is your friend's computer over 10 years old?

Or perhaps are you just repeating something you heard and never verified for yourself?

No, my friend has no way to right click.

Every Apple computer came with a right-click mouse button since 2005 and it has supported right-click since much longer.

How old is the computer of your friend? Or did his computer come with an outdated pre-2005 mouse and he never ever bought a new one (a cheap 10 bucks logitech would do)?

If your friend has a relativly old laptop without the new touchpad, he can just buy a cheap mouse and attach it.

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Been using a Macintosh and Windows for most of my life. I'm not a fanboy, but seeing the insane mac-hate on this forum and the internet in general tends to piss me off.

Why should his father not get an Apple laptop for work because it cannot play as many games natively?

@OP: If your father needs software for film-editing, Macintosh comes with iLife pre-installed, although I'm not sure about spread-sheet software. Your father could buy Office for Mac, which is the exact same thing as Office for Windows but then ported to Macintosh. I was rather pissed of to notice Windows didn't have Office installed by default, and I'm sure it doesn't have film-editing software by default either.
But either a Windows computer or an Apple laptop - His demands aren't to high so I think about any computer would do.

 

[Bender Rodriguez]

I've been pretty much stress free since i switched 3 years ago.
I always read: dangerous hole in windows, viruses, crashes, bluscreens.

MacOSX has NO BULL.
Sure everything aint right and all computers suck a bit in general - But Apple is far ahead - Let your dad get his Apple computer.
You don't want to fix his damn Antivirus all the time.

 

[dex-dex]

to get a mac is to be "different" and follow the heard.
this dude knows not to be a douche

buuuut I know in the future I know I will be needing to get a mac soooo.
I'll just be over here.

actually, they are really good for graphic design and animation. I will give apple that. but 90 percent of the people I know get it only because it's hip and "simple".

 

[Thedutchjelle]

Haaai Escapist.

[In short, my Dad wants to get some Macs for work, and he is going to get one as his next laptop.
Now, I don't know much about them, but I'm completely against the idea, mainly due to the sheer cost of the things!

Gimme a hand guys><.

...And during writing this thread, I realise things might get out of hand. So keep this civil, and please give me actual reasons, not '0mg 4ppl3 r m0n3y hungry foo1z!!!!1!1!!!'.

Also, you can give me reasons why Macs are actually any good:].

Byaaa I feel like an idiot for not giving more detail about what he does.

It'll mostly be used for spreadsheets, and a lot of email sending. He'll be doing some graphic design too, as well as presentations(Y).
But it's not to a great extent- it's a Pneumatics/Hydraulics/Office Interior Design firm.

...anyone need any of that in the Heathrow area, give me a buzz;D.

Cheers guys!

I've been pretty much stress free since i switched 3 years ago.
I always read: dangerous hole in windows, viruses, crashes, bluscreens.

MacOSX has NO BULL.
Sure everything aint right and all computers suck a bit in general - But Apple is far ahead - Let your dad get his Apple computer.
You don't want to fix his damn Antivirus all the time.

I never understood why Windows doesn't come with Anti-virus by itself. Should they not incorporate all the defensive mechanisms made by the anti-virus-software companies into their OS as soon as there is a new virus, for free? No idea if this is what they already do though. But apparently the build-in antivirus isn't enough, as Windows keeps bothering me if AVG is turned off.

 

[Bender Rodriguez]

Maybe it's just in my experience, but I have a Mac and it's the first functional computer I've ever had. Oh, but wait. People think that anyone with a Mac is automatically a hipster who thinks they're better than everyone else, so everyone else is clearly better than anyone who owns a Mac.

Clearly.

I agree, had the same experience.
And i was an experienced user, real tweaker.

Suddenly it all stopped up for me, i got a Mac.
I wish i could talk to some Anti Apple boys face to face, pretty sure i could bust every claim they had in a civilized manner.
Just by my calm enjoyment and impressive presentations i've "converted" 4 people.
All hardcore Apple haters.

 

[Artemicion]

They're getting better about it but the Mac OS still doesn't support a lot of programs that Windows does. Also, the cost of a Windows machine of the same power as a Mac will be far less. As they say, you aren't buying the product, you're buying the name.

 

[Wicky_42]

Mac is good for video editing, music creation, surfing the web, word processing, and can be used through Bootcamp to put Windows on a system. PC can... do all that stuff, but not very well, but it does have Minesweeper.

I just don't get this - what is the difference with "video editing, music creation, surfing the web, and word processing" that makes the Mac so much better than the PC?

Final Cut Pro vs Premier Pro, [comparable music software], the internet [same for both platforms o.0], Word [built for PC] - also consider that the entirety of the Adobe suit is programmed for the PC and ported across to Macs (I believe), thus making it more stable on PCs.

I just don't get why the PC 'can't do that stuff very well' - what are your grounds for that comment?

 

[Railgun88]

Honestly, Macs are good for photo work, video editing, and music editing. Other than that there is no reason he should have to spend that much. Also if you have to buy any hardware for the laptops it is going to be much cheaper, and easier to replace with PC's. Honestly if you can just message me with the application of the laptops, I can give you a proper reply. Also when you tell him what I say you can tell him that I actually know what I'm talking about. I'm currently going to Porter and Chester Institute of Tech. for Computers and Networking.

Damn, that was long winded.

 

[Hashime]

I would cite the cost of replacing batteries in the laptops, the cost of keeping an apple OS up to date, the extra cost and smaller amount of features available in apple office software, the extra cost of servicing an apple computer, the extra cost of purchasing replacement peripherals when the employees get fed up with the keyboard and mice, the extra cost of training for all people switching from a windows environment, the extra cost of buying extra drivers (or time involved with finding, tweaking, and installing) to allow the use of cross platform storage and many older peripherals, and finally, the extra cost of the damn computers.

I would also like to note that it is probably best for him to lease computers, that way when tech changes his investment will not have been wasted.

It is also a common misconception that apple computers are better for photo and video editing. There is a better video editing program only available on apple computers, but in the case of photos, photoshop has windows native versions and due to the better cost vs specs of a windows machine they perform better photo editing.

 

[dex-dex]

Spoiler

Let me guess - that's a lecture for one of those nebulous "arts" subjects, isn't it? The scientist contingent that I've seen tend more towards non-Apple computers.

I am going to assume so.
It reminds me of my college considering it is well known for animation and arts.

 

[smithy_2045]

The only good Apple product I've ever had is the iPod Touch.

 

[higgs20]

I can't get on with the mac OS to be honest, other than that I've heard they are pretty decent machines and that they can out last your average laptop by a few years. but yeah if you want reasons not to get one, the OS is a bit shit if you go straight form a PC.

 

[Random Argument Man]

Stupid Reason: Because random people on the Internet hates Mac and they think it's evil!!!

It's a mac, not the end of the world.