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LordRoyal

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Trolldor said:
LordRoyal said:
I didn't think a "They changed it now it sucks" thread would get 5 pages of simple arguing about trivialities.
What, you're surprised?

Oh, wait, you haven't been here that long.

You'll get used to it.
People attacked me personally because of my opinion on Bioware.
Welcome to "The Escapist".
I suppose I shall

In any case I finally purchased Dragon Age 2 out of subtle curiosity. I'll begin to process whether or not it is as bad as some claim.

GrizzlerBorno said:
Regardless, it's still a little weird to me because her accent doesn't feel very consistent. Sometimes she'll speak "normally" (as in without an accent) for the whole sentence but accentuate ONE word, and that catches me off guard. Also, I'm pretty sure she appears in DA:O in the Dalish Origin and she didn't speak like that there, so yeah....
Your correct in that Merril didn't speak with an accent in Origins. Moreover from what little of Dragon Age 2 I've played she feels a bit... out of character. Granted that Merril from Origins didn't have very much to her character, she certainly didn't feel as naive or childlike.
 

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GrizzlerBorno said:
My apologies. Never met anyone from Wales before. A cousin of mine speaks with a good-as-native Scottish accent though, since she grew up there.

Regardless, it's still a little weird to me because her accent doesn't feel very consistent. Sometimes she'll speak "normally" (as in without an accent) for the whole sentence but accentuate ONE word, and that catches me off guard. Also, I'm pretty sure she appears in DA:O in the Dalish Origin and she didn't speak like that there, so yeah...

And while I'm forced to take your word on Tolkien's depiction of elves as Irish, I WILL say that they felt nothing LIKE the Irish in all the movies and the bit of the first volume I have read.
She doesn't have a very broad Welsh accent but it is there consistently. Stress and intonation aren't universal in her speech, if they were it would sound very stereotypical as if she was going to start talking about mining and farming every time she spoke.

The voice actor in the Dalish origin is atrocious though, I wouldn't be able to put up with a main party member with that accent. It just doesn't fit characters that are going to speak psuedo-Welsh/Irish (Dalish). The seem to have retconned this so the city elves/alienage elves speak with American accents to show their disconnection to their origins, not sure if Fenris' accent indicates anything though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvish
Seems Tolkien used Finnish For Qenya and Welsh for Sindarin
 

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ThisIsSnake said:
GrizzlerBorno said:
My apologies. Never met anyone from Wales before. A cousin of mine speaks with a good-as-native Scottish accent though, since she grew up there.

Regardless, it's still a little weird to me because her accent doesn't feel very consistent. Sometimes she'll speak "normally" (as in without an accent) for the whole sentence but accentuate ONE word, and that catches me off guard. Also, I'm pretty sure she appears in DA:O in the Dalish Origin and she didn't speak like that there, so yeah...

And while I'm forced to take your word on Tolkien's depiction of elves as Irish, I WILL say that they felt nothing LIKE the Irish in all the movies and the bit of the first volume I have read.
She doesn't have a very broad Welsh accent but it is there consistently. Stress and intonation aren't universal in her speech, if they were it would sound very stereotypical as if she was going to start talking about mining and farming every time she spoke.

The voice actor in the Dalish origin is atrocious though, I wouldn't be able to put up with a main party member with that accent. It just doesn't fit characters that are going to speak psuedo-Welsh/Irish (Dalish). The seem to have retconned this so the city elves/alienage elves speak with American accents to show their disconnection to their origins, not sure if Fenris' accent indicates anything though.
Fenris isn't Dalish. He was born and brought up in the Imperium. I just assumed his accent is native Tevinter.

On that note, I still haven't figured out what Tevinter is supposed to be an Allegory of/inspired from. Industrialisation, maybe (only, with Magic)? You know pushing Magic so far that it literally "Broke" Heaven; sort of how the Industrial Era brought upon Global Warming and depletion of Earth's you-know-the-drill? Maybe? I dunno.
 

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GrizzlerBorno said:
ThisIsSnake said:
GrizzlerBorno said:
My apologies. Never met anyone from Wales before. A cousin of mine speaks with a good-as-native Scottish accent though, since she grew up there.

Regardless, it's still a little weird to me because her accent doesn't feel very consistent. Sometimes she'll speak "normally" (as in without an accent) for the whole sentence but accentuate ONE word, and that catches me off guard. Also, I'm pretty sure she appears in DA:O in the Dalish Origin and she didn't speak like that there, so yeah...

And while I'm forced to take your word on Tolkien's depiction of elves as Irish, I WILL say that they felt nothing LIKE the Irish in all the movies and the bit of the first volume I have read.
She doesn't have a very broad Welsh accent but it is there consistently. Stress and intonation aren't universal in her speech, if they were it would sound very stereotypical as if she was going to start talking about mining and farming every time she spoke.

The voice actor in the Dalish origin is atrocious though, I wouldn't be able to put up with a main party member with that accent. It just doesn't fit characters that are going to speak psuedo-Welsh/Irish (Dalish). The seem to have retconned this so the city elves/alienage elves speak with American accents to show their disconnection to their origins, not sure if Fenris' accent indicates anything though.
Fenris isn't Dalish. He was born and brought up in the Imperium. I just assumed his accent is native Tevinter.

On that note, I still haven't figured out what Tevinter is supposed to be an Allegory of/inspired from. Industrialisation, maybe (only, with Magic)? You know pushing Magic so far that it literally "Broke" Heaven; sort of how the Industrial Era brought upon Global Warming and depletion of Earth's you-know-the-drill? Maybe? I dunno.
I think they are meant to be based on the Byzantine Empire although I don't know much about them except they survived the collapse of Rome. Before the collapse of Tevinter it does sound like a parallel of industrial nations, the British/French/Spanish empires that used their huge advantage (Rifles/Magic), took slaves from populations (Africans/Elves) etc kind of thing. I guess we can't be for sure about the accent until we see more Tevinter native characters.

Tevinter is a place I really want to see in the next game, along with Val Royeaux, Par Vollen, the Black City and the place the crows are from.
 

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ThisIsSnake said:
GrizzlerBorno said:
ThisIsSnake said:
GrizzlerBorno said:
My apologies. Never met anyone from Wales before. A cousin of mine speaks with a good-as-native Scottish accent though, since she grew up there.

Regardless, it's still a little weird to me because her accent doesn't feel very consistent. Sometimes she'll speak "normally" (as in without an accent) for the whole sentence but accentuate ONE word, and that catches me off guard. Also, I'm pretty sure she appears in DA:O in the Dalish Origin and she didn't speak like that there, so yeah...

And while I'm forced to take your word on Tolkien's depiction of elves as Irish, I WILL say that they felt nothing LIKE the Irish in all the movies and the bit of the first volume I have read.
She doesn't have a very broad Welsh accent but it is there consistently. Stress and intonation aren't universal in her speech, if they were it would sound very stereotypical as if she was going to start talking about mining and farming every time she spoke.

The voice actor in the Dalish origin is atrocious though, I wouldn't be able to put up with a main party member with that accent. It just doesn't fit characters that are going to speak psuedo-Welsh/Irish (Dalish). The seem to have retconned this so the city elves/alienage elves speak with American accents to show their disconnection to their origins, not sure if Fenris' accent indicates anything though.
Fenris isn't Dalish. He was born and brought up in the Imperium. I just assumed his accent is native Tevinter.

On that note, I still haven't figured out what Tevinter is supposed to be an Allegory of/inspired from. Industrialisation, maybe (only, with Magic)? You know pushing Magic so far that it literally "Broke" Heaven; sort of how the Industrial Era brought upon Global Warming and depletion of Earth's you-know-the-drill? Maybe? I dunno.
I think they are meant to be based on the Byzantine Empire although I don't know much about them except they survived the collapse of Rome. Before the collapse of Tevinter it does sound like a parallel of industrial nations, the British/French/Spanish empires that used their huge advantage (Rifles/Magic), took slaves from populations (Africans/Elves) etc kind of thing. I guess we can't be for sure about the accent until we see more Tevinter native characters.

Tevinter is a place I really want to see in the next game, along with Val Royeaux, Par Vollen, the Black City and the place the crows are from.
You mean Antiva?
Not really interested in that or Orlais, since they seem to be pretty "by-the-numbers" allegories of Spain and France, respectively. Then again Ferelden was just "Not-England", and that wasn't so bad.....

But I agree with Par Vollen. From what I've played of Dragon Age 2, I want to understand the Qunari better.
And agreed on Tevinter as well. Actually, isn't the Imperium supposed to be in a never-ending War with the Qunari, if I remember correctly? I can see a great story coming out of that; one where you "pick a side" between the two (misunderstood?)evils (three if there's another Blight by that time)?