Godzilla 2014 - My hopes

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thejboy88

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As many of you know, the new American remake of Godzilla is slated to be shown in cinemas this year, and as a fan of this franchise, I couldn't be happier. However, like many fans, there are things I hope for that I would like to see happen in this movie, not the least of which being that the monster in question actually looks like the classic version, though the recent trailers seem to have already alleviated my fears on that particular point.

But my biggest desire for this movie is for it to achieve what few, if any, monster movies have ever managed to achieve, a sense of doom. While it's certainly true that giant monster movies have shown the monsters as forces to be reckoned with, they never managed to make me feel terrified of them, which is something even classic Kaiju movies like the Godzilla franchise often struggled with.

Giant monsters in movies have always seemed to me to be akin to natural disasters. They're devastating and cause many lost lives to be sure, but like many real-life disasters, such as terrible floods, hurricanes and earthquakes, it's often something that humankind will walk away from and recover from, given enough time. And while that's certainly a terrible thing to go through, it doesn't quite capture what I want this new Godzilla to be like.

No, for me, I want this new monster to be less of a natural disaster, and more like an extinction event. I want it to be the kind of thing that, when you look at it and see what it can do, you get an overwhelming sense of "if we don't get this thing, we're all dead".

No monster movie has made me feel that way as of yet, so if this new Godzilla can pull it off, then I will have no qualms about calling it perhaps the most effective giant monster movie of all time.
 

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Anything other than the last movie will be a huge step up so my hopes are pretty tame by comparison. I don't have a strong sense of what Godzilla should and shouldn't be. Just get me a plot that makes sense dammit.
 

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thejboy88 said:
No, for me, I want this new monster to be less of a natural disaster, and more like an extinction event. I want it to be the kind of thing that, when you look at it and see what it can do, you get an overwhelming sense of "if we don't get this thing, we're all dead".
Didn't Pacific Rim already do this? I mean the goal of those monsters was essentially to wipe out humanity and man kind was brought to a last stand when it's resistance forces were becoming so few in numbers. Actually, the success of Pacific Rim might have been a major contributing factor to this film being green lighted.

I don't think Godzilla would ever be able to do this because there's no way a single monster could really be any more than a regional threat.... I mean it can't terrorize the whole Earth at once.

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I'm pretty stoked for this movie! I've loved Godzilla since I was like 5. I really hope this one doesn't end up being like that other recent Godzilla movie (the scenes that actually contained Godzilla were fine but the rest was garbage)
 

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"Oh, no, they say he's got to go
Go go Godzilla
Oh, no, there goes Tokyo
Go go Godzilla
History shows again and again how nature points up the folly of man
Godzilla!"

The Zilla God!

Honestly I have pretty high hopes for this one. My first horror movie every was the original Godzilla movie (dubbed of course) and I've been a Godzilla fan ever since. I've stuck around through Son of Godzilla, the crappy US movie (not Godzilla 1984) the okay animated series and the revival in Japan.

From what I've seen so far, it seems the makers are treating it with respect, even taking the original themes of nuclear destruction and expanding it out to add the NSA spying paranoia of "what are they keeping from us, what do they know that we don't?" to it.

Godzilla (when not battling giant monster) works best as an allegory for the things we are afraid will destroy us... and based on the only trailer we've got, they seem to be going for that.
 

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I've never been a big fan of Godzilla movies, having never really watched them. The most I ever saw was clips of terrible movies at hotels during vacations. That said, the movie looks good and from what I hear, the producers are keeping to the original themes and things that made the original movie good.

And that roar gives me the shivers.
 

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Yeah, I'd like that too, but I don't think it'll happen in Godzilla or any other monster movie because thematically, monster movies are somewhat different from extinction movies. For the monsters to be a serious extinction level threat, they'd have to be shown destroying much of humanity, not just a few cities. I mean, whole countries or continents would have to be brought to ruin. And while I'd love to see that happen I think monster movies generally try to achieve a more light-hearted action-adventure tone rather than a despairing, apocalyptic tone (which may be less popular with audiences).

But that said, I would really like to see some "brink of extinction" monster movies too...the market is oversaturated with post-apocalyptic (past the extinction event) movies and simple action (not a real extinction threat) monster movies. It'd be great if a movie could capture humanity's steady loss of hope as its great nations are slowly brought to their knees.

geK0 said:
thejboy88 said:
No, for me, I want this new monster to be less of a natural disaster, and more like an extinction event. I want it to be the kind of thing that, when you look at it and see what it can do, you get an overwhelming sense of "if we don't get this thing, we're all dead".
Didn't Pacific Rim already do this? I mean the goal of those monsters was essentially to wipe out humanity and man kind was brought to a last stand when it's resistance forces were becoming so few in numbers. Actually, the success of Pacific Rim might have been a major contributing factor to this film being green lighted.

I don't think Godzilla would ever be able to do this because there's no way a single monster could really be any more than a regional threat.... I mean it can't terrorize the whole Earth at once.

OT:

I'm pretty stoked for this movie! I've loved Godzilla since I was like 5. I really hope this one doesn't end up being like that other recent Godzilla movie (the scenes that actually contained Godzilla were fine but the rest was garbage)
I think Pacific Rim wanted to do this, but was unable to pull it off. No one really seemed to have the apocalyptic despair that you'll find in...well, I can't name any movies of the top of my head. Maybe the besieged humans at Helm's Deep and Minis Tirith in the LoTR series. You know, people walled in a city waiting for their deaths, with really no hope to win.

In Pacific Rim, humanity still occupied all its cities, even the coastal ones, and the attacks were annoying but at worst they'd trash part of a city before the military took them down. So it felt more like a "let's contain this problem before it gets any bigger" movie than a "oh God, the end is nigh, let's give the enemy one last battle" movie.
 

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As long as it isn't another Pacific Rim. Pacific Rim was great on the action side, but that's all it had going for it. All flash, no substance; it's just another dumb action movie. I'd prefer to have to think a little bit while I'm watching cities get leveled by a 100-story-tall atomic fire-breathing lizard. Fortunately this movie sounds like it's going for that angle. The director stated that while Godzilla is going to be shown to be a force of nature and wreck shit like nobody's business, he's also going to be an anti-hero, fighting off an even more devastating threat, which is true to the theme of many Godzilla movies.
 

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Eh, I'm going to disagree with this. All of humanity being under threat from some big lizard is rather silly. And only really scary because the audience is also human, it's lazy. It's like when alien have ray guns that only destroy monuments.

Now, a small group of people being under threat from a big lizard I could believe, and if the movie is done well, I could care about these characters.

OTOH, if Godzilla was a symptom, not a cause, of a great threat to humanity, that could work.
 

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I must admit i am quite looking forward to this film, don't get me wrong the previous one was ok..ish but with what they can do with films now days i think it's time to give godzilla another go, i'd also like to see a king kong VS godzilla film but i can only hope
 

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I don't know why anyone wants this to be serious movie. It should be a cheeseball comedy just like the vast majority of the Godzilla movies. The first movie is the only serious one and it was a good film for its time, but now? There's no way to make a concept like this and take it seriously. Pacific Rim was the best attemtpt and even that knew to be a little tongue in cheek. After watching the godawful, self serious trailer for the 2014 movie, it just looked like a great unintentional comedy rather than a good movie. Cranston's serious overacting while the rest of the cast underplayed every line was funnier than a lot of comedies I've seen.

If this movie tries to take itself that seriously it is going to be a massive failure because people don't really know what they want to see. They say they want to see a serious Godzilla movie, but there are also people that thought for years a Ghostbusters 3 would be something less than an awful idea.
 

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Kaiju movies are, at their finest, proffesional wrestling movies. Humans fighting the giant monster are dull because either they are powerless untill some random bullshit occurs, such as the oxygen destroyer or getting tangled in a bridge, or because you know the humans are powerless and it's just a question of watching the big monster wrecking stuff till it gets bored and buggers off.

Instead we should be watching Godzilla turning up to wreck shit, 'cause of atomics or whatever, the humans are powerless (oh noes!) and so they create a monster of their own to beat the crap out of it but it turns out to be even worse than Godzilla! Mega rumble ensues which ends with Godzilla powerbombing the bad guy into a nuclear powerplant which meltdowns and starts incinerating its back whilst Gee Zee atomic raybreaths it in the face.

I would like to take this opportunity to advocate Godzilla vs The Incredible Hulk as a film that needs to be made.
 

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A BigCup of Tea said:
I must admit i am quite looking forward to this film, don't get me wrong the previous one was ok..ish but with what they can do with films now days i think it's time to give godzilla another go, i'd also like to see a king kong VS godzilla film but i can only hope
Well, you could watch King Kong vs. Godzilla, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Kong_vs._Godzilla] because that is definitely a thing. Unless you meant a modern reboot. That would also be cool.
 

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TakerFoxx said:
A BigCup of Tea said:
I must admit i am quite looking forward to this film, don't get me wrong the previous one was ok..ish but with what they can do with films now days i think it's time to give godzilla another go, i'd also like to see a king kong VS godzilla film but i can only hope
Well, you could watch King Kong vs. Godzilla, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Kong_vs._Godzilla] because that is definitely a thing. Unless you meant a modern reboot. That would also be cool.
Ahhh yes i should have been more specific, i did mean a reboot...something along the lines of pacific rim