Gold Members: How do you put up with it?

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Troublesome Lagomorph

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I only put up with it because I played MP with my friends every week end. When that stopped I quit XBL. XBL kinda sucks. You pay for MP that isn't as good as PC MP (that's free) and a whole load of other shit that you're probably not gonna use.
 

dancinginfernal

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I've put up with it by getting a 12-Month Subscription Gold card every year for Christmas.

I wouldn't actually pay for this shit.
 

Ph33nix

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try a game like halo 3 on live its a great experiance also its not that expensive and nice to have from what i have heard breach has some major issues all its own.
 

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migo said:
I had the Xbox Live Gold trial for a month, and was thoroughly unimpressed. Bought a year in January because spending $1200 on an HDTV and then watching Netflix on a Wii seemed like a waste, so I've been trying out some online play. The Crysis 2 MP demo worked fine. I also decided to give Breach a shot since there was no PC demo. Half the matches I was in ended because the host left.

If I were actually paying for multiplayer (as opposed to getting HD Netflix rather than SD, in which case I'm getting what I'm paying for), I'd be pissed off! Having matches cut out because one person leaves isn't an acceptable "premium" gaming experience.

So to all you guys who love Xbox Live Gold, and I know you're out there, how do you put up with crap like that?
It sounds like you don't understand how it works at all.

Game companies are responsible for making their own game, along with all of the code for matchmaking, if a host dropping kicks you, that's not XBL's fault, that's crappy design on the part of the developer.

It would be impossible for XBL to handle all matchmaking and server hosting.

Saying you never had this problem on the PC is stupid, because that's totally irrelevant, it's the developer's fault, not XBL
 

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Troublesome Lagomorph said:
I only put up with it because I played MP with my friends every week end. When that stopped I quit XBL. XBL kinda sucks. You pay for MP that isn't as good as PC MP (that's free) and a whole load of other shit that you're probably not gonna use.
Is there a universal piece of software that handles all PC matchmaking? Of course not, it falls upon the developer to make it work, the same way it does for the Xbox, XBL is just a system that gives everyone a username so they can be held accountable for what they do, and manages downloads and purchases. The actual matchmaking is handled by the developer, so if that part of it fails, it's their fault.
 

northeast rower

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Let me just say this: I deal with it because you're not paying that much. $50 dollars a year totals about 14 cents a day.
 

Happy Sock Puppet

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I have only had positive experiences with XBLGold, I use Netflix almost every night and game a crap-ton on the weekends. Worth every penny IMHO.
 

Troublesome Lagomorph

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danpascooch said:
Troublesome Lagomorph said:
I only put up with it because I played MP with my friends every week end. When that stopped I quit XBL. XBL kinda sucks. You pay for MP that isn't as good as PC MP (that's free) and a whole load of other shit that you're probably not gonna use.
Is there a universal piece of software that handles all PC matchmaking? Of course not, it falls upon the developer to make it work, the same way it does for the Xbox, XBL is just a system that gives everyone a username so they can be held accountable for what they do, and manages downloads and purchases. The actual matchmaking is handled by the developer, so if that part of it fails, it's their fault.
I just find it disagreeable to pay for a service that you can get a better version of on PC.
 

Danpascooch

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Troublesome Lagomorph said:
danpascooch said:
Troublesome Lagomorph said:
I only put up with it because I played MP with my friends every week end. When that stopped I quit XBL. XBL kinda sucks. You pay for MP that isn't as good as PC MP (that's free) and a whole load of other shit that you're probably not gonna use.
Is there a universal piece of software that handles all PC matchmaking? Of course not, it falls upon the developer to make it work, the same way it does for the Xbox, XBL is just a system that gives everyone a username so they can be held accountable for what they do, and manages downloads and purchases. The actual matchmaking is handled by the developer, so if that part of it fails, it's their fault.
I just find it disagreeable to pay for a service that you can get a better version of on PC.
That's the thing though, you can't get a better version of that service on the PC, because there is NO universal service like that on the PC, the closest thing I can think of is Steam, but that's hardly the "official" service that every single game uses.

XBL is for purchases/downloads, achievement tracking, and specific XBL functions such as party chat, anything that fails that isn't one of those things is not the fault of XBL.

What he described is a problem with the GAME, and if a game has buggy matchmaking on the Xbox, it's going to have buggy matchmaking on the PC (that or they fucked up in porting it), it has absolutely nothing to do with XBL.
 

BlumiereBleck

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I like talking to friends what can i say thats enough for me to pay $60 bucks a year and being able to get stuff.
 

IronicBeet

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I can afford $5 a month, and I like to play with my friends. Most of my friends have 360s. It's stupid that they charge you for P2P matchmaking in online games, but the 360 is great for social gaming.
 

theevilsanta

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Because I don't spend $70+ dollars a MONTH subscribing to cable television. Yeah, 60 bucks a year isn't that tough after eliminating that expense.
 

Grey_Focks

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Don't play games that do that, simply enough. Halo doesn't, BC2 doesn't, and I swear I played CoD games where they didn't, either, and they just migrated hosts instead. Same thing with the Crysis 2 demo, which I must admit right away is just a blast, albeit one of the most unoriginal blasts I've ever played, and the half-assed matchmaking is REALLY annoying.

The problems you have aren't because of XBL, but really just the game devs.

EDIT- Oh, and the party chat is really something I need in all future consoles I purchase.
 

DustyDrB

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I bought Gold for a year in like September or something when they were selling it dirt cheap. I just use it to watch Netflix on my TV and the occasional Assassin's creed: Brotherhood online game. I have a PS3 now, though, so I won't be renewing my Gold account when it runs out.
 

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Lousy for me, as I got a 12-month cards for christmas, My mum through it out so I hadto search the (furtunatly blue) bin to find it again. Then she throws it out again... Really wish it were free, so I didn't just get a £40 black ops tee-shirt for christmas.
 

Zombie Izzard

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Two words: Party chat. My friends and me can all be playing different games yet we can still enjoy each others company.
 

Vykrel

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try playing more than two games before coming to a conclusion. i just got done (trying) to play Breach. its the game, not the console.
 

migo

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shabobble said:
migo said:
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Pirate Yoda Online said:
Your issue here is with Breach, not with Xbox Live Gold, you can't just play ONE game that is broken and then blame the system for it.
Since it's a problem I've never encountered before on PC....
Unless you played Breach on the PC, this argument is invalid.
Wrong. It happens on more games on 360 than just Breach, and it doesn't happen on any games on PC.

mighty_wambat said:
this is an interesting point, the reason why you are able to understand just what xbox live gold is and is not, is perspective. most gamers have only 1.
This makes sense, also explains why when people ask for 360 exclusives, people still spout games that are on Windows, or occasionally also on the PS3.

many gamers are under 21, they did not spend 1200 bucks on there tv, there parents did. they do not understand the contrast between xbox live and steam or between jedi outcast and force unleashed
when you only have xbox live, its easy to put up with. after all, online gaming is amazing.
true, it was one of the big reasons it took me so long to come over to consoles, with Unreal Tournament being my favourite game.

so, how do they put up with it?
~ by not understanding that it is a vastly inferior service at an unreasonably inflated price.

will this change?
~ yes, i think it has to.

what can you do to insure that the invisible hand guides away from this inferior model?
~not support it. i suggest a PlayStation 3. it will pay for it self in 3 years on your current system, it looks great, and if you are missing games like uncharted 2 and heavy rain, you are missing out.
Yeah, it's on my to buy list, but finances were tight (post christmas and all), so paying $40 now ended up working out better than spending $300 I didn't really have. Particularly since I expected the TV to include Netflix (it does, in the US, in Canada, it doesn't, fucking Sony...)
Mimsofthedawg said:
migo said:
I had the Xbox Live Gold trial for a month, and was thoroughly unimpressed. Bought a year in January because spending $1200 on an HDTV and then watching Netflix on a Wii seemed like a waste, so I've been trying out some online play. The Crysis 2 MP demo worked fine. I also decided to give Breach a shot since there was no PC demo. Half the matches I was in ended because the host left.

If I were actually paying for multiplayer (as opposed to getting HD Netflix rather than SD, in which case I'm getting what I'm paying for), I'd be pissed off! Having matches cut out because one person leaves isn't an acceptable "premium" gaming experience.

So to all you guys who love Xbox Live Gold, and I know you're out there, how do you put up with crap like that?
hold on, I'm confused... you bought an Xbox to pay for a $60 gold membership to watch Netflix when you could buy a PS3 and pay $7 a month for Netflix? I don't get it.

Oh, and I play on my PS3. 360 was the biggest waste of money EVER..... thought luckily I got it as an Xmas present.

I mean....... I can see why some people would want it with certain games? But even their exclusives, in my opinion, pale to the exclusives on the PS3. Plus, Blu Ray.

But I don't mean to turn this into a flame war. I'm just saying I can't understand why anyone would want a 360, ESPECIALLY if it was just for netflix.
My girlfriend bought the Xbox 360 months ago. She also bought a Wii. Before we were watching Netflix on the Wii with a 15" TV. After upgrading to the 40" TV, Netflix looked crappy, so I paid an extra $40 to get access to it on the 360.

I didn't get a 360 for Netflix, I paid for 1 year of Gold for Netflix.