Goldeneye (the movie not the game)

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PurpleRain

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My first movie review, yay! (The crowed cheers as they tear their clothes off).

I was watching Goldeneye the other day and come to realize that it?s probably the most stereotypical James Bond film to date. The writer and director do nothing to jazz the script up in any way:
The villain does something nasty for no apparent reason other then it?s evil. Enter Bond, who stops them in the explosive opening. He is later seen screwing (or about to screw) random girl who is never seen again in the film. Bond is called to track evil baddy. Bond meets evil baddies hot female sidekick in a casino showing off his rather impressive card skills. Evil baddy does more bad stuff. Bond screws more girls and so on and so forth until the movies action packed finale. And then Bond screws main girl a little more.

This time the stories about Sean Bean, an ex-double0 agent who was fed up with his job and decided to destroy London and cripple the rest of the world. I guess simply quitting isn?t in Sean Bean?s vocabulary. He then uses a giant satellite dish (surprise, surprise) to command some pre-coldwar satellite that can shoot an EMP charge that also blows stuff up by the looks of things.

The thing that makes this movie most like the other James bond movies is the fact that the ?evil genies? is actually a complete and utter retarded dumb arse in disguise. Even though the fact that Sean Bean was previously a double0 agent of the highest caliber he still seemed to be as smart as a ten year old with down syndrome. He in fact does a good job of making the viewer hate him as a villain because he constantly bickering how James managed to escape his evil clutches and foil his plot when better plots could have been constructed by a team of highly motivated preschoolers. Here?s an example: He beats Bond unconscious, great job, let?s put a bullet in his head and call it a day. But no! Sean needs to demonstrate his? actually I have no idea why he felt he had to do this. But Sean puts Bond and the hot Russian girl Bond plans to bonk in the next hour or so (who by the way is a computer specialist and knows all about the Goldeneye) tied up in a helicopter with its missile system planning to go off in a matter of moments and blow them both to hell. Bond narrowly escapes by hitting the jettison button and the hot girl and him go flying off to safety. Ok, so you?ve decided to kill him that way? that?s stupid but what the hell he?s you nemesis not mine, but why oh why did you leave the jettison button on the helicopter right by Bond?s head? I would have at least disabled it to give him a sense of false hope (the best kind of hope).

Further down the track Bond and hot Russian girl find Sean?s secrete base because Sean felt the need to expose his absolutely hidden base by shooting at Bonds plane, bad idea. The secret base is this huge satellite dish (mentioned previously) that is hidden under a lake that gets drained when it emerges. If I had billions of dollars to spend on building that thing I would have at least have kept some money aside to build a lockdown button, so that Bond couldn?t enter the base or trained my peons to actually shoot. It?s either the lack of knowledge to fire a weapon or the fact that everyone Sean Bean hired was a pacifist and were shooting blanks to scare Bond because they didn?t even hit him once. Now onto that lockdown part? easiest thing in the world to do would be to build a big metal door that no one could get in or out. You could even cut down on the amount of Peons you bought just to build one. There it was that easy. What can James Bond do if he can?t even talk to the bad guy and stop his evil plot if he can?t get past a huge impenetrable metal door? I would imagine he?d sit outside the front twiddling his thumbs until new world order. Hell, I?d let Sean Bean become the master of the world.

The thing that was new and different in this movie was the fact that they replaced Timothy Dolton (one of my favorite Bonds) with Pierce Brosnan. Because it was Brosnan?s first Bond movie they do a lot of close up shoots of him with his hair geld right and with a mean but sexy look on his face to impress the audience. It?s not so impressing now that he?s gone and some blond guy has taken over the lime light.

All in all it?s a typical Bond movie. Girls, guns, gadgets, villains and cars? oh shit, I forgot to mention his car. Picture this; Q gives you a sexy sports car that can fire missiles from the headlights, impenetrable and the works, what would you do with it? I for one wouldn?t give it to some fat arse annoying yank who I?ve only met briefly enough to forget his name in a day, but for some reason this is exactly what Bond does. He doesn?t even use the gadgets he gets with the car and tells the yank, ?[not to] touch any of the buttons.? What the hell Bond?! I would have bugged off and blown some dogs up or something.

Well that?s it. Another movie were Bond exploits the stupidity of the evil villain and his army of pacifists and stops them from blowing up England and stealing some cash. Congratulations Bond, you are more sharper then the average retard. At least he had sex with the hot Russian girl in the movie. I wish I was Bond.
 

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Gah how dare you, GoldenEye is my favorite Bond film. You seem to have completely missed the part of the storyline where Trevelyan's motives are explained. His parents were Lienz Cossacks betrayed by the British government post WWII. Also the amount of of money he would have gained before setting off GoldenEye would have been substantial.

Not to mention a big screw-you to Bond himself who setting the timers for 3 minutes instead of 6 caused Trevelyan scarring and great pain, which may have been avoidable. Thus by striking a blow at Britain he strikes a personal blow at James who is the embodiment of 'for Queen and Country'.

As for the other foibles you have with the plot, come on it wouldn't be a good action movie if the main protagonist wasn't impervious to bullets or able to escape from death in the nick of time.

Now if you want to slate a Bond film you can start on the steaming pile of waste that is Die Another Day.
 

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Now if you want to slate a Bond film you can start on the steaming pile of waste that is Die Another Day.[/quote]

Too true how the hell did they get the funding for that.
 

PurpleRain

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OneHP said:
Gah how dare you, GoldenEye is my favorite Bond film. You seem to have completely missed the part of the storyline where Trevelyan's motives are explained. His parents were Lienz Cossacks betrayed by the British government post WWII. Also the amount of of money he would have gained before setting off GoldenEye would have been substantial.

Not to mention a big screw-you to Bond himself who setting the timers for 3 minutes instead of 6 caused Trevelyan scarring and great pain, which may have been avoidable. Thus by striking a blow at Britain he strikes a personal blow at James who is the embodiment of 'for Queen and Country'.

As for the other foibles you have with the plot, come on it wouldn't be a good action movie if the main protagonist wasn't impervious to bullets or able to escape from death in the nick of time.

Now if you want to slate a Bond film you can start on the steaming pile of waste that is Die Another Day.
Yeah true. But if he wasn't a prick in the first place and didn't 'pretend' to get shot and die, James wouldn't have blown the place to hell. But I never said I hated the film, it was a fun one to watch, there was just some really stupid things in there.
Plus it would be cool to have the super powers of James Bond, the fact that he can never get shot by average people.

One last thing I'd like to state about Bond films in general that I forgot:
Has anyone noticed how he went from spy to supersoldier? In the first Bonds he at least had some form of spy equipment. In Dr No he was given a camera and that was it. In From Russia With Love he had a spy suitcase full of spy stuff. Nowdays Q gives him a pen that explodes or a car tha shoots rockets.
 

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Bond is like watching Pokemon; unoriginal, repetative, poorly written, no plottwist and no interesting characters. But damn they are fun to match!
 

Don Alejandro

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sammyfreak said:
Bond is like watching Pokemon; unoriginal, repetative, poorly written, no plottwist and no interesting characters. But damn they are fun to match!
Now that's not quite fair. I'm a big fan of Sean Connery's flicks, but Roger Moore's stuff is all too much camp for me. Dalton was...eh. Didn't really dislike his movies, but the atmosphere of the Connery movies was captivating with distinct and different plots.

Though granted that Brosnan's stuff suffers from pretty horrible writing. He looks damn good most of the time, though.
 

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PurpleRain said:
The thing that makes this movie most like the other James bond movies is the fact that the ?evil genies? is actually a complete and utter retarded dumb arse in disguise. Even though the fact that Sean Bean was previously a double0 agent of the highest caliber he still seemed to be as smart as a ten year old with down syndrome. He in fact does a good job of making the viewer hate him as a villain because he constantly bickering how James managed to escape his evil clutches and foil his plot when better plots could have been constructed by a team of highly motivated preschoolers.
I don't know, I think stealing a helicopter impervious to EMP charges, having an inside man fire off the weapon so that you can coast in on the one still-functioning piece of electronics and make off with the weapon, leaving no evidence or witnesses, is not a bad plan, all in all. If you want to fault him for something, fault him for hiring Jean Grey, who for someone who gets off on killing people, seems to be remarkably poor at it if the character is a principal in the film. It's rather like Sith Lord Syndrome, where the baddest baddass in the galaxy can mess up a whole squadron of Jangos and a dozen Jedi at once, but falls like a house of cards in front of Obi-Wan or Anakin.

Here?s an example: He beats Bond unconscious, great job, let?s put a bullet in his head and call it a day. But no! Sean needs to demonstrate his? actually I have no idea why he felt he had to do this. But Sean puts Bond and the hot Russian girl Bond plans to bonk in the next hour or so (who by the way is a computer specialist and knows all about the Goldeneye) tied up in a helicopter with its missile system planning to go off in a matter of moments and blow them both to hell.
Destroying the helicopter with them in it solves several problems at once, including the fact that it allows Simonova to take the fall as the Russian insider who stole the weapon and Bond as a double-agent in league with her, while he gets to go on his merry way blowing things up via satellite.

Now onto that lockdown part? easiest thing in the world to do would be to build a big metal door that no one could get in or out. You could even cut down on the amount of Peons you bought just to build one. There it was that easy. What can James Bond do if he can?t even talk to the bad guy and stop his evil plot if he can?t get past a huge impenetrable metal door?
How do you use the satellite without extracting it from behind your giant metal sarcophagus? For that matter, if you do open the door to use the satellite, how much more effective is it for keeping Bond out than a lake? The lake at least would be discreet.

Not that I necessarily disagree with your overall view. Other than Goldeneye being the best of Brosnan's films and a good sight better than most of Roger Moore's escapades.

Oh, and Timothy Dalton is a tool.
 

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remember the super-villan syndrome, they never kill the heroe when they have the chance, instead, they choose a slow extravagant way or keep them alivefor watch their plans working, or make a speech without realize that theres a gun at 10 centimeters of the heroe hand
 

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Damn You PurpleRain :p
I remember loving this movie to pieces back when I was *17-(howevermany years ago that movie came out)*. So of course completely unconvinced by your argument I decided to watch it and now I hate it...you managed to make me hate one of my all time favourite movies. But I do have to say you are absolutely right.
 

PurpleRain

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TheSchaef said:
Oh, and Timothy Dalton is a tool.
Noooo! Timothy was awesome. He was a much darker Bond then most and definatly a much needed Bond after Roger Moore.
 

Talisker

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PurpleRain said:
TheSchaef said:
Oh, and Timothy Dalton is a tool.
Noooo! Timothy was awesome. He was a much darker Bond then most and definatly a much needed Bond after Roger Moore.
Dalton was good, he was more like the bond of the books, he could be a cruel son of a ***** at times
 

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Dalton was good yeah, and I always feel sorry for Brosnan having to do all the modern action Bond film with no script. Golden Eye was his best and as you've seen they clearly copied the Moore formula for it but actually pulled it off. Where as Moore looks too old and has all the cheesy scripts. Looking forward to the next one due out in the summer I think.
 

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I can't get over your bias of this movie. First off, the Bond series was out for i don't know how long, and this movie came out and revamped the entire industry of espionage movies. Give this movie the respect it deserves, not saying that it is a repetitive clone of past days. The plot was great, the acting and actor choices were made well, except pierce brosnan was a bit of a douchebag (but did alright in this film). As for an action film, this is one of the top all-time choices for me.
 

PurpleRain

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super_smash_jesus said:
I can't get over your bias of this movie. First off, the Bond series was out for i don't know how long, and this movie came out and revamped the entire industry of espionage movies. Give this movie the respect it deserves, not saying that it is a repetitive clone of past days. The plot was great, the acting and actor choices were made well, except pierce brosnan was a bit of a douchebag (but did alright in this film). As for an action film, this is one of the top all-time choices for me.
I enjoyed the movie. I never said I hated it. I was just poking fun at the plot holes and the 'clone-ly-ness(?)' of the script.