Gollum Overpowers Gandalf in Guardians of Middle Earth

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DalekJaas

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While I like the idea of a LOTR MOBA this looks rubbish. I would never play a MOBA on console anyway, it would be so low and clumsy and would end up feeling awkward to play.
 

McShizzle

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Meh not that big of a deal to me. The game is likely more based on "Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings" than the real one, and it's just a cash-in anyways.
 

Skeleon

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If they want a balanced game, maybe they shouldn't put inherently imbalanced characters in mortal combat in the first place. Gandalf is basically a minor god. Don't make him playable, problem solved! I can believe Gollum stabbing a human in the back and killing him, I can even believe Gollum ambushing and killing an Uruk'Hai. But a Maia? No.
 

ThunderCavalier

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The way I see it:

Make a balanced LotR game.

Make Gandalf a playable character.

Stay true to the canon of the storyline.

You can only pick two of the three. GO.
 

Fantasylord

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Actually I could have sworn the only reason Gandalf didn't go full power ever in the story is because he and the other Istari were supposed to be their as guides and advisers and only could use their powers and fight if things got that bad. They are actually called Istari they aren't the same race a Sauron. Gandalf and Sauruman and the others (yes there are others Radigust the Brown I think and two Blue wizards who were mentioned once in the entire lore).

Anyways they were all sent simply as an advisory role to guide the free people of middle earth into the right direction and only use their power if absolutely necessary. In theory they could have actually destroyed Sauron themselves as kind of a last resort thing but they wanted Middle Earth to survive without to much help from the higher powers.

The only reason Gandalf actually fights is because things were getting that bad. Plus it didn't help that the white wizard turned traitor, and The Brown wizard felt that the free peoples were too corrupt, arrogant or just plain stupid to help and he only wanted to save the animals, hell the only reason the eagles helped Gandalf was because Radigust respected him enough to send help to him every once in awhile. Also the reason why we don't hear much about the 2 blue wizards is because they disappear and nobody knows what happened to them beyond probably dead.

So ya the game looks bad and i doubt Gollum could have ever killed Gandalf and them changing the stats strikes me as a bad joke.
 

Shjade

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PrinceOfShapeir said:
Shjade said:
FalloutJack said:
The only opponents that can handle Gandalf are {A} people who can counter him like the Witch King of Angmar, {B} big powerful shit like trolls and balrogs, and {C} enemies who make it hard for him to concentrate on magic, like a badass normal whose skills with a blade are a cut above all others and they're fiercely-fast.
Or, y'know, any archer, as long as he doesn't see them shooting at him.

Gandalf's a powerful guy, but he's still just a guy. Maybe he wouldn't stay down, but I don't think it'd take a badass to put him down, just some tactical application of lethal force.

...which Gollum couldn't do, regardless.
Actually, no, Gandalf isn't a guy. While he appears to be an elderly male Human, in truth Gandalf is more akin to Sauron than he is to any of the Humans. He's a Maia, a being that is somewhere between Angel and Demigod.
Because in mythology demigods never get killed by mundane things like swords or arrows made of simple plantlife.

Oh wait. I guess that's a thing that happened. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldr]

He's a powerful guy. He's still just a guy. "Guy" being an extremely broad term that simply refers to a masculine or male figure, not necessarily human.

Show me the part of the book where he gets shot in the head and is perfectly okay with it. Then we'll talk.
 

Jaeke

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Deformed cave dweller in a dirty loincloth=Omnipotent demigod, who by the way actually has weaponry?

Yeah I know Gollum has some sharp teeth but teeth =/= Glamdring.
 

Jaeke

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Therumancer said:
To be honest I think whoever green lit this needs a stern talking to. I can see how the meeting for this game went with somone pointing out the success of DOTA/LoL type games, and suggesting that one based off of a well known liscence might be a good investment. Something like "Lord Of The Rings" has enduring popularity so I can see why it was picked, but it's really not condusive to this kind of thing at all as there really isn't much parity between characters to begin with, or even that large a roster of characters involved enough or detailed enough to be drawn on to create a huge LoL-type roster. Gollum was probably made a playable character, simply because he's a known character, and one of those people will recognize. Whether it should be viable to play him in a situation like this was probably a tertiary concern.


At any rate as this goes on, I wonder how long it will be before we see Barliman Butterburr and Glorfindel as playable characters. "Now you can dominate the battlefields of Middle Earth with everyone's favorite inkeeper! Watch has he tanks away damage with his jiggling belly self-buff, pulverizes enemies with exploding ale casks, and teleports companions away from death blows with his naruto-inspired decoy bed abillity!" (insert promotional video of Aragorn being cut down but at the last moment a puff of smoke, replacing him with a wrecked bed, with the badly injured Aragorn appearing next to Butterburr).

As far as Glorfindel goes, he's the elf that carried the injured Frodo to Rivendell, where the river was used to destroy the ring wraiths for a time. I imagine it's inevitable he'd wind up in the game because he IS a named character, god knows what he actually does though, so I guess that would give them free reign. I imagine he'd wind up being a taxi tank with the abillity to pick up team mates and protect them as he moves, while screaming "oh noes! they are after us!". Bonus points if they actually manage to get the name of his horse right. :)

Oh, oh, and let's not forget Brandiboris Bullroarer (I think I have the name right) the great hobbit hero who was big enough to actually ride a pony, and who knocked the goblin into the well with a cudgel! Bringing him back in an "ancient legends and heroes" pack would of course be awesome... :/

Then of course the good aligned answer to Gollum... Farmer Maggot... able to chase down "coward" with his own speed buff of "you stole my vegetables!".

I mean seriously, when they are already trying to make Gollum playable, just imagine how far they are going to need to stretch to fill out this roster.... anyone else have any "definate" additions. :)
Well Glorfindel was actually one of the main characters in LOTR: BFME 2. He was pretty good if you knew how to use him.

Gloin was the other, he just took down buildings like a damn bulldozer.

Go play it.
 

Jaeke

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fix-the-spade said:
Nevermind Gollum balancing, why can't we play as a Balrog?

Maybe make it a Godmode cheat? Summon Blarog! Stomp on everyone.
I'm from the old world biiiitttcchhess!

Ahem, does this mean that other bad guys like the Nazgul and Gothmog will be playable as well?

That would be cool.
Man I wanna be Hurin. Take on a whole damn army and wear a badass helmet while doing it!

Captcha: geronimo!
Hell yeah..
 

mattaui

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I'm kind of surprised they let the license get that far afield of the lore, even though they've certainly had to make concessions in other games. This, at best, just feels like a cheapening of the franchise. Not sure why they couldn't have just used various fighters and beasts from ME that would have been more along appropriate lines, it's not like there's a shortage of those.
 

JohnDoey

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As someone who doesn't care about LOTR or it's canon this game looks pretty cool and people saying it's a re-skin of lol every MOBA is essentially the exact same game.