Good Bad Flicks: Exploring Daredevil

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madwarper

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Slycne said:
Sorry about that folks, should be working now. Let me know if you have any further issues.
Shitty video players is still shitty. The only thing that played was the add, when the supposed "video" was going to start, the only thing I see is the unchanging multi-shade red hexagonal background, and it's constantly buffering. I can't get more than 10 seconds into it without getting a "you have aborted ..." message.

Can you just end this failed "experiment" and go back to using youtube?
 

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It's like a PBS special on terribleness... I love it.
Did you even watch the video? He spends very little time talking about the failings of the movie, and spends more time talking about little easter eggs and other behind the scenes tidbits.
 

WhiteTigerShiro

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Cool video. Still on the fence about renewing my Pub Club membership (that I thought was supposed to auto-renew, but whatever), but more content like this definitely nudges me on the side of losing $20 (or whatever it costs now).
 

RedDeadFred

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This was a really interesting video. I'm going to have to track down that director's cut now. One thing I dd really like about the original was Bulls-eye. Sure his over the top nature didn't really fit the tone of the movie too well, but he was really entertaining to watch.

I have to say, looking at some of this guy's previous content and this video itself, I'm thinking that this may be the best new content the site has had in quite some time. Super informative and excellently paced.
 

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Hey, just dropped by to say that this was my intro to Good Bad Flicks, and I liked what I've seen so far. Interesting exploration of how the aesthetic object we see completed (though I guess with the proliferation of alternate cuts, the "completeness" takes on a certain provisionality) is shaped by competing visions/agendas during the production process.
 

Evonisia

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The ending screen looked a bit YouTubey (for lack of a better term), but I'm sure that's just an early thing to tell people to venture to the YouTube account.

Still, interesting video and I agree on the dark and gritty complaints. This isn't like Man of Steel wherein the characters keep bringing up hope and optimism despite it not being there, Daredevil (at least this film's Daredevil) isn't exactly a chipper, inspiring character. Though I do love Man of Steel. Same for Batman I suppose.
 

Spaceman Spiff

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Great video, Cecil. I like the behind-the scenes look at the production of the film and why it turned out the way it did. I also like the in-depth comic book insight you give.
 

Lightknight

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Oh thank goodness. I've been seriously missing movie discussion videos and this one is fantastic.

Did you guy's see his Blaire Witch 2 video?

Studios be trippin'.
 
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WhiteTigerShiro said:
Thunderous Cacophony said:
It's like a PBS special on terribleness... I love it.
Did you even watch the video? He spends very little time talking about the failings of the movie, and spends more time talking about little easter eggs and other behind the scenes tidbits.
I did, thank you. It was a road map to how the film turned out poorly despite having a strong cast, from the adaption of Frank Miller's ideas to how Spider-Man led the studio to change the budget but not want more comic book design elements, to the editing and later added scenes throwing things off. It did include a lot of information breaking down how and why certain shots were done, but it's more than just an IMBD trivia page.
 

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Alright, after an excessively numerous amount of attempts I finally got through the whole video without the image freezing or the sound cutting out.

Totally worth it though.

Damn I'd heard that the director's cut was better, but I never realized just how badly they'd mangled the theatrical cut in comparison to it. I'm gonna have to check it out.
 

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Interesting video, but I thought casting Michael Clarke Duncan was a mistake. MCD was amazing to me because, despite his insane size, he never felt intimidating. Like, at all. It was almost uncanny how someone that huge could be so NOT threatening. Maybe it's one of those things where you can never see the actor past a previous role, and all I could think about when I saw him was "The Green Mile", but he just seemed like a giant teddy bear.
 

jamrey

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Nice work, Cecil. I'm especially happy about the new Psychostick theme song. Looking forward to the next video.
 

Therumancer

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Interesting, this is more akin to what I expected from Jim Sterling's "Movie Defense Force". That said in checking back on other videos I personally felt the "Blair Witch 2" episode was better and covered more of the kinds of things people would need a video series like this to tell them about. With the "Daredevil" episode here it seemed mostly a matter of "hey guys, the movie was bad because the studios cut it to death and tampered with it, but there is a directors cut that restores huge amounts of footage" which is informative but not that same way. In the case of BW2 it's a valid point most people don't realize that among other things it was another media experiment to see if it could be used in a different fashion from the first movie, by including those tidbits in the movie that needed to be put in on a website to fully explain what was going on (along with the other problems, not all of which I personally think were problems but we'd have to disagree). One bit that seemed to be missing there was that apparently there was also a book series (most people know of the video games but not the books) that actually elaborated on some things and wound up tying into aspects of both movies as well.

Hmmm well I mentioned more about another video than this one, but mostly to say it was a better piece of work and touched on things that I feel people didn't know and would be unlikely to uncover on their own especially seeing as they have apparently abandoned "Blair Witch" as a franchise unlike Daredevil which if anything is likely to be on a rise meaning old material is likely to get a second chance which can happen with the Director's Cut release. The BW franchise will likely never get another chance due to it's failures and well... I won't get into the entire conspiracy theory angles which both involve crazy theories about the nature of the footage including cosmetically modified actors to assume the roles of real missing people and other insanity, or on an entirely different track the movies being fake but being part of a Polybius-like human influence experiment.
 

Strazdas

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I used to think Bobs stuff was fine but in comparison this is so much better. This is definatelly a series im going to continue watching.
 

CecilT

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Thanks to all the folks who liked the video. I'm really happy to be here and I'm glad you enjoyed my work. :)

SupahGamuh said:
You should all watch Cecil's stuff on YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/user/trachenburg], truly some well made and greatly entertaining stuff.

OT: Hey Cecil!, great to finally seeing ya here in The Escapist!, are you going to upload your Good Bad Games stuff?, or just your Exploring/GoodBadFlicks stuff?
Thanks! I'm really humbled to be here. It's all very surreal. Right now its just movies stuff like GBF, Exploring, Vs, WTF, and so on. (mostly Exploring and GBF since the others take the longest to produce and I can only get them out every other month or so) Maybe in the future they may want to try some of the Good Bad Games content but we never really got into that. Although this being a largely video game focused site, it could be something they would be interested in. I guess we'll just see what the future holds. ^^
 

warrenEBB

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i dunno. this is one of the few cases where I think the director's cut is really hard to watch, and am glad the studio fucked with it. coolio's acting is painfully bad. without daredevil and elektra sleeping together it feels like more like a g-rated high school crush. it's unnecesary to throw in a sex scene - but in this case it adds to the movie feeling sleezy and dirty. the director's cut feels much more clean.
plus the theatrical moves right along at crazy fast pace, while director's cut seems to meander everytime matt and foggy wander around looking for clues.
dimly recall the fight scene in the bar feeling a little more silly when longer - ie weird physics of his movement being forced to match some pose, instead of feeling like a tough fight. the theatrical is choppy and hard/impossible to follow, but it feels more dangerous.

I bought them both. big Daredevil fan. just prefer the Theatrical for feeling less wholesome.