Good British food... does it exists?

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NinjaDeathSlap

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British cuisine is a very nebulous thing that's difficult to define. In recent decades though I'd say Britain has become a lot more enthusiastic about good food, so we're a lot better than we used to be.

I've been to Paris, several times, and never once for me has it lived up to it's reputation as the best city in the world for food. In all the range of restaurants I have visited there, the food has been without fail underwhelming, overpriced, and served to me by a waiter who looked ready to spit on me and then try and charge me extra for the courtesy. Don't believe rumours in general, but rumours about which country/city has the best food I've often found to be furthest from the mark.

I suggest while you're in Britain, you try some of our cheese. Anything from Cheddar to Stilton is fine, just try some, because those sheets of yellow plastic you have in the states just isn't cheese, and you don't know what you're missing.
 

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Bertylicious said:
I don't know why you're all so down on British food; we made the tikka massala, the vindaloo, the sag aloo, a vast number of pies and pastries...

Food on the continent is, in contrast, fairly rubbish. I mean yes; you've got the exceptional French and Italian cuisine, but what else is there? German food is just fried potato, slow cooked pork and boiled cabbage. Tapas is revolting. The Dutch just eat chips and mayonaise, they may as well be Welsh, and Scandi-Findi-Swedey-land just eat fish. Greek food is pretty good but I just say that because I love kebabs, to anyone else they are unspeakable.

You lot should have some God damned pride.
In fairness, the proper mayonnaise in Holland and Belgium is several million times better than the slightly eggy semen that counts for mayonnaise in the rest of the world, and it does go fantastically well with their chips.
 

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Traditionally British food has been crappy. Jellied eels? who in their right mind would eat them.

However in recent years they have been great improvements. Mainly thanks to immigrants coming to the country and showing us how it should be done.

Find yourself a curry house, usually a safe bet.
 

Tom_green_day

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Coming from someone who is both English and live in England, some of this is kinda insulting. I've never heard any rumours of people eating 'Jellied eels' and as far as I'm aware our food is quite good, relatively speaking.
 

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It's decent. It might not be anything special, but it's filling and quite good in most places. I liked it. If you don't, there are more fast food places and sandwich shops around than there are man-sized rodents in Disneyland. I found it quite cheap (depends where you eat) and the serving, where I've had it, was good. Perhaps not top hat worthy though (you have to earn the top hat!!!)
 

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Tom_green_day said:
Coming from someone who is both English and live in England, some of this is kinda insulting. I've never heard any rumours of people eating 'Jellied eels' and as far as I'm aware our food is quite good, relatively speaking.
Jellied eels and/or eel pie is a cockney thing. It's not really done outside of London but it is a thing.
 

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Traditional British food is actually pretty tasty. Occasionally a little greasy, but tasty none-the-less. Go try a Cornish Pasty (even though it might be a little tough to find if you're not in Cornwall). I'd also recommend going to the Real Food Festival where all the food buskers are. Basically, you get food from the vendors and you pay what you think it's worth. If you don't like it, you pay a little bit, if it's the greatest thing ever, you pay a good amount.
 

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So we dont paste everything with garlic like the French and we dont drown everything in olive oil like the Italians so we must have bad food...
 

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British food.. what is this strange thing you speak of? Do you mean curry?

Basically, key thing in London is to avoid the obvious tourist traps. So don't go to Brick Lane to get an Indian, and don't go to Chinatown to get Chinese food. It will be terrible and overpriced unless you know exactly where to go, which you won't.

Check out the Time Out [http://www.timeout.com/london] website. The "Cheap Eats" section is usually student friendly and the rating system is reasonably trustworthy.

But don't bother with "British food". There's really no such thing any more, particularly not in London. London is not the place you go to immerse yourself in "traditional" British culture, it's the place you go if you have a sudden urge to go and find a street full of Vietnamese restaurants.

Sadly, I'm not in London at the moment, but have fun.
 

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Stu35 said:
Rastien said:
AccursedTheory said:
British cuisine is HORRIBLE. They have, however, made a good sport of cooking other nationalities food well. You should be okay.
Unfortunately we haven't mastered the art of deep frying everything in less then 30 seconds and ramming it between cardboard wedges then topping it off with a slice of flavored textured 'cheez', so you may feel a bit home sick.

This, so so much of this.


I can kinda tolerate Europeans taking the piss out of our food (not so much the french - 'coat it in Garlic' is not the same as having a great culture of food). Americans have no fucking right to criticize though.
The whole fast food thing trades quality for convenience which is kind of the stereotype of American food.

Burgers and hot dogs are Germany's thing anyway. Our food is things like Gumbo, Barbeque, Alligator tail, Frog legs, and a bunch of different countries food altered to use common American ingredients. Things like chop suey and the like.

Also potatoes are America's thing not the Irish's.
 

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OP, I realise that the U.S. doesn't like the U.K. much... it was something about a tea party as I recall?

Jokes aside, the bad reputation of U.K. food in the U.S. comes from U.S. troops stationed in the U.K. towards the end of WW2 when there was strict rationing, most of the U.K. had the hell bombed out of it and there was very little food and most of that was canned since there wasn't enough gas to get regular shipments in from the countryside. If I visited New York the day after 9/11 and then spent the next 50 years complaining about how U.S. food sucked because I couldn't get any decent food and half the restaurants were closed... well, people would be right to call me an insensitive prat.

A lot of the food you eat in the U.S. is from the U.K. Of course it is hard to draw a clear line between U.K. food and European food in general, but U.S. food culture is from the same roots. The hamburgers people in the U.S. like? They're from Hamburg. Those hotdogs that are regular additions to the U.S. lunch table? They're based on German food. Most of the stuff you eat during Thanksgiving is pretty much standard food in a traditional Sunday lunch in the U.K., although ingredients may differ the cooking style is almost identical (e.g. U.S. Roast Turkey, U.K. Roast Chicken, Duck or Gooose, U.S. pumpkin mash, U.K. mashed potatos or other mashed yams, etc.).

As a result I find it quite amusing every time someone from the U.S. criticises U.K. food... in their ignorance not realising that there's about a 90% overlap.

Sure you'll find some revolting food the U.K., soggy fish and chips, pies filled with miscellaneous bits of gristle, etc. ... just like you'll find some utterly revolting food in the U.S., like hotdogs that have you throwing up inside of 5 minutes (and that the locals claim are utterly delicious!!?!) or suspect falafels that contain more rat than lamb (I'm thinking of a particular place in New Jersey).

What do I recommend? Go to any decent pub (bar) and have a "pub lunch". You'll be pleasantly surprised and generally they're reasonably priced since the pubs make most of their money off the booze. If your hotel offers a buffet any of the evenings you're there then I recommend trying a bit of everything. The quality isn't normally amazing at buffets, but you'll get to try a good range of dishes and flavours for quite cheap. The pub meat pies are normally quite good.

Obviously if you're rolling in money then I recommend Gauthier in Soho for a truly traditional dining experience. And don't be mislead by the names of the dishes being in French, most of the food is authentically British in character, but the French simply were the first to come up with a system for naming how stuff is cooked, which the British adopted. Shetland langoustine and scallop is amazing, but so is the Tornedos of Angus beef (... yes, I know there are Angus cows in the U.S., no they do not come from the U.S, they're originally Scottish... and delicious). A dinner at Gauthier will set you back easily 100 pounds, if not more, but for a truly British dining experience I recommend it.

What to avoid? Anything that's a chain store. You don't call McDonalds American cuisine do you? No, I thought not. Try to avoid the same mistake with British food. There are some good chain stores, like Nandos (best darned chicken in the country!... but not very British), but as a rule they're lousy. Likewise anything you buy from a guy on the side of the street you're taking a risk - sometimes it is amazing... and then you can never find the bugger again, and sometimes it is complete garbage and you're bent over a toilet for 2 days. Basically follow common sense like you would if you were visiting any city in the U.S. Don't assume that all food in the U.S. is lousy simply because you had the bad sense to buy a rat and cheese falafel from a guy on the side road with a cart in New Jersey.
 

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http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/content/recipes/cuisines/british/

'Proper' british food is amazing.
It's hearty, wholesome and comes from all over Britain.
 

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Smeatza said:
Traditionally British food has been crappy. Jellied eels? who in their right mind would eat them.
Londoners. I've lived my whole life in Britain and I have never met a single person who ate that crap.

OT: Umm, go to yonder pub and feast upon a hearty stew or roasted dinner? Cuz that's pretty much it, stews, meat pies, that kind of stuff. IT's good stuff mostly to be honest, simple and filling.

Veg, meat, potato, throw in pot, stew. Eat. Whats wrong with that? > >

Oh and:

 

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It depends what you mean by 'British' food.

I'd say traditional British food is:

Fry up breakfast - brilliant and heart attack inducing. Find a good greasy spoon cafe. Plenty available in London if you're willing to search.
Fish and Chips - Might find a decent chippy in London, but odds are against you.
Pies of various kinds - readily available. Variable quality. Find a pub that doesn't look too fashionable. Plenty in London
Sunday Roast - As above

There are others, but they tend to be more regionally based. The ones above are pretty ubiquitous throughout Britain.

If you're after Asian food the Shoreditch area used to be quite good (it's a bit trendy these days though). There's a well known bagel shop that's open 24 hours selling cheap food. Very useful if you're wasted in the area. I'd say Tooting has the better curry houses, though - cheap and 'authentic'. Soho also has some nice places to eat if you want a more Eastern Asian dish, but they can be hard to find and the area is generally quite expensive.

Overall, you can find pretty much anything of a good quality in London, but you do need someone to help show you around -it's a big place and full of tourist traps.
 

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Devoneaux said:
Rastien said:
AccursedTheory said:
British cuisine is HORRIBLE. They have, however, made a good sport of cooking other nationalities food well. You should be okay.
Unfortunately we haven't mastered the art of deep frying everything in less then 30 seconds and ramming it between cardboard wedges then topping it off with a slice of flavored textured 'cheez', so you may feel a bit home sick.
Wow, so you're basically Americans with a funny accent? Edit: Misread you, apologies.



In all seriousness, british food is more "practicality over flare" it's the nicest way I can put it, and it's not all that disingenuous.

I've heard a theory from somewhere (possibly my old history professor at college), that Industrial nations such as Britain and Germany developed highly practical, hearty foods as part of our national diets to support our industrial workforce in their long labours - lots of easily digested calories that can be whipped up quite quickly and consumed equally quickly. Whilst the Agricultural nations like France and Italy got away with long lunches and lazy work routines (his words, not mine), which allowed them to develop rich foods that take expert preparation and need to be 'enjoyed' properly.

Dunno how valid that argument is, but stoned teenage me thought it made a whole lot of sense. Plus, Us and Germany are the greatest nations in the world (and had we simply fucked Belgium over in 1914 I reckon us and them would currently be ruling the galaxy together as Father and Sohn, or Vatter and Son, depending on how you look at it.)
 

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As a Belgian visiting London I was pleased to find that the whole 'British food is bad' thing is a tired old stereotype.
I ate in several cheap cafes run by friendly people serving suprisingly tasty food. The places aren't hard to find, just look in any good tourist guide. Times change, and it seems like the British have woken up and noticed that they need to up their game to better their terrible reputation for food.
It seems that many foreign people comment on Brit food out of ignorance, making themselves then seem ignorant.
Just don't try to compete with our Belgian chocolate, that Brit stuff isn't nice! For now maybe...
 

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SkarKrow said:
Smeatza said:
Traditionally British food has been crappy. Jellied eels? who in their right mind would eat them.
Londoners. I've lived my whole life in Britain and I have never met a single person who ate that crap.
East-Enders, to be more accurate. Plenty of Londoners won't touch jellied eels with a ten foot barge pole, but we cockneys cling to them. They are pretty tasty, it's just the jelly that's rank.