Good concept, Bad execution

[Johnnyallstar]

In trying to say something original to the thread, though I agree with many prior statements, is the MMO that the Escapist is right now advertising.

Vindictus is a *GREAT* game for the short run, but due to their hosting architecture, how short and repetitive dungeons are, and the downtime between content releases, it seems to just fall short of long term greatness.

I love it, but what will be it's downfall is the monotony and lack of server support. I still suggest people to try it out for a little while because it's TOTALLY FREE, and fairly fun for a while.

 

[scar_47]

i think he's talking about bioshock 2's multiplayer where plasmids are fairly useless causing very little damage and requiring a class built around them to be half way effective where as even the worst gun can kill you pretty easily.

 

[GEAR BOSS]

Fallout New Vegas just suffers from a few bugs now that they patched most of them up, so I really wouldn't go and say that it was a great idea that was brought down by poor execution. Now if you want a game that certainly fits the bill, APB all the way. That game looked gorgeous but had the worst execution possible for an mmo. Also, Final Fantasy XIV, which was nearly unplayable at launch.

 

[Baralak]

I have to say Two Worlds

GREAT ideas.
The ability to take an axe and use it to throw down your enemies shield? Awesome.
Taking an equipped torch and letting you stick it in an enemies face to damage and stun them? Amazing!


Honestly, look through the game, it's FULL of AMAZING ideas that were just executed sloppily. Two Worlds is, to me, the definition of a game that simply needed polish. The foundation's there, and it's a great one, just everything else was put in wrong. I'm really hoping Two Worlds 2 is as amazing as it could be.

Agreed. I totally loved it for the most part, but the voice acting was stale and repetitive, I don't need a mother in law joke every time I come across some insect out in the field. It was also fairly buggy. I loved some of the RPG elements they put in and the combat was decent if you weren't on horseback .

Exactly! It was WELL Worth the $5 I got it for, and I enjoy popping it in and exploring the world. It really doesn't deserve all the hate it gets. People expect AAA all the time, every time. They never get the chance to experience a diamond in the rough.

 

[Verp]

Deadly Creatures for the Wii. There aren't enough games where you play as a tarantula or a scorpion. The game had an awesome atmosphere, premise, and setting and all, but it was just so... Buggy. Also, the controls could've been made so much simpler and more streamlined.

LOL.... a game where you play as a tarantula or scorpion is buggy....

It's less funny when you have the task of eliminating all enemies before you can advance and one of the enemies is suddenly sucked into a wall and you can't kill it or when you climb to a very high location and loose your footing when the game refuses to recognise the platform as solid :|

 

[archvile93]

Bioshock, unique gameplay ideas in an interesting world, but the gameplay was broken worse than MW2's multiplayer and the main unique feature (plasmids) were mere gimmicks and useless in every sense of the word.

How were they useless? It's been awhile since I played the original Bioshock but I didn't find them useless at all, there were times I was low on ammo, plasmids to the rescue.

Which plasmids were you using. The one that stuns enemies and does no damage while his eight buddies rip you apart, the one that does very very little damage and doesn't even begin to distract the enemy, or the other one that does no damage and only stuns the enemy while his eight buddies tear you apart? And that's not including the rediculous lack of resources (Slient Hill 2 gave you more ammo), the worst hit detection I've ever seen, and basic mooks that can take more hits than an M1 Abram tank (and that's with antipersonell rounds).

 

[archvile93]

Sorry, I wish this site would stop doing this.

 

[MercurySteam]

Communism.

Nothing could be more true.

 

[Vakz]

Elemental: War of Magic.

It had the perfect idea. Wonderful concepts of mixing RTS with RPG. Then it was released, almost unplayable to due bugs, multiplayer disabled due to being to bugged (this is EXACTLY like saying "here, buy our unfinished game"), and even the patches haven't helped, despite promises of miracles from Stardock.

 

[The Madman]

KotOR II

Incomplete, but still a great game. Sure, there were broken quest lines, but what was there was fun. And it ended terribly... Seems to be their business model, though...

Beaten to it. I had fun with it, but so much potential wasted...

If you haven't yet, replay Kotor 2 with the Restored Content Mod. It's a whole new experience and, gasp, the ending actually makes sense!

Anyway, I'm going to have to go with:

Dragon Age: Origins

Bear with me. I liked DA and think it had quite a few damned good ideas, I just also happen to think the game had the potential to be so much better! Combat for example was atrocious. Rather than using a Baldur's Gate style system of combat, it felt more like I was playing a singleplayer MMO with the 'tank drawing aggro' and the dps 'ccing' the mobs so the healer could keep the tank up. In MMO that combat system works well because it's individuals playing each role are forced to work together. Teamwork and cooperation make the otherwise simplistic mechanics entertaining. Not so when its a singleplayer game.

I also would have liked the Origins system to play a more heavy role throughout the game. It really felt like once you did your unique 'intro' the game continued the exact same regardless of your origins and race. I would have preferred more long-lasting consequences to your decisions in the start, rather than just the occasional cute 'cameo' from characters you met from the intro later on in the game.

Still, good game. I just think it could have been better!

Elemental: War of Magic.

It had the perfect idea. Wonderful concepts of mixing RTS with RPG. Then it was released, almost unplayable to due bugs, multiplayer disabled due to being to bugged (this is EXACTLY like saying "here, buy our unfinished game"), and even the patches haven't helped, despite promises of miracles from Stardock.

Give it time. People tend to forget Galactic Civilizations 2 wasn't exactly brilliant on release either, but now is easily one of if not *the* best 4x strategy game on the market.

Hopefully history will repeat itself here, because Elemental has a shit ton of potential and I'd hate to see that wasted.

 

[Squidden]

SPORE.

That should, I think, end the thread. But I'm probably exaggerating .

God damn, did you see the video he released on spore for 2004? It had SOO MANY FEATURES including the ability to make a water based creature, it was generally more realistic and had better animations. Space Travel and Combat were massively better.

Then it turned into a kiddy fun time game.

 

[Psycho Cat Industries]

That game spore where you created animals then EA kills it and makes everything linear and kiddish

 

[AnthonTheSkabot]

The Saboteur and WET

 

[SeriousSquirrel]

Legendary had an awesome concept. I love FPS's and myhtology, so the two together would be awesome.. THEY. JUST. DO. IT. WRONG!

Is that game worth it for 10 bucks? Just curious

OT: Damnation has one of the coolest premises in recent memory. They just fucked up so damn badly

 

[BelmontClan]

Final Fantasy XII

First we'll have a large world to play with. (Okay.) We'll make it a part of a history of a world we've played with before. (..all right) Lots of big juicy plot right out of a lengthy fantasy tome. ( ) We'll have really good voice actors this time! D!) We'll start the story from your main character being in prison for having been accused of killed the king. (Dude, that's awesome!)

The combat's going to be really REALLY different though, but you'll get used to it even if you have never played an online MMO before. (Uh...okay? I'll give it a try.) We're going to have a grid where you build things on your characters like FFX (okay?) only unlike the sphere grid, you won't have any idea what you're going for until you uncover it, thereby wasting precious points on crap you don't want. (wait, what?) You'll also have to grind like no one's business (dammit) be forced to go on hunts in order to get ANY other arrows and ammo other than the basics and any decent money (WHY?), go for hours on end without hearing any story elements at all, have lots of "important" story points told to you rather than you see them (ffft, Balthier). Oh and that neat idea for the beginning? We're scrapping that and some whiny kid with his muscle tone that looks like its tattooed on will be the main character who won't really have a point with the story after the first few events.

Ugh. Such high hopes, so disappointing.

 

[Distorted Stu]

Legendary had an awesome concept. I love FPS's and myhtology, so the two together would be awesome.. THEY. JUST. DO. IT. WRONG!

Is that game worth it for 10 bucks? Just curious

OT: Damnation has one of the coolest premises in recent memory. They just fucked up so damn badly

Its not worth any money at all. If you find it for $1 buy it, any higher, no.

 

[Vault101]

Dark void.....
Lost planet 2.....that one still makes me cry..
Dynasty warriors.
Maybe darksiders, i really like the gameplay, but i'm not a fan of the art direction.
Fracture....
Spider man shattered Dimension...lol i never even played this one but i'm adding it to the list.

Really? I thourght the art direction in darksiders was the best part...it was so BEAUTIFUL but I supose thats subjective

 

[Vivace-Vivian]

Fallout New Vegas.

It just wasn't good enough.

 

[Evil Raccoon]

I'd have to go with:
Lost Planet 2
Red Faction: Guerilla
And Just Cause 2, I dunno, it just didn't feel complete to me.