Not only is SmarterThanYou correct about the vernacular use of the term "RPG", but you've made 2 other grievous errors.mrhateful said:Sorry to burst your bubble but what your saying is just incorrect. I know that the term has been raped over a long time, it used to be that the marketing would call what you refer to as an action-RPG. Since RPG is something good but ultimately very hard to produce and as such instead of doing so they just started calling them action-RPGs, but now it seems they don't bother with that anymore and just call them RPGs. but seriously be real, I mean according to you Battlefield 3 is also an RPG since it has a level up system. And for you to fall for this marketing ploy is just proof that the genre is finally dead and there probably won't be released anymore RPGs except from obsidian and CD Project the last bastion of hope. However I don't blame you, I see how you could easily make such mistakes. Truly I urge you go play Baldur's Gate 1 or 2 and see what is real then you will understand, then you will see, release yourself of today's tormentingly bad games influence and cleanse you mind of their corruption.
By your definition of "role-playing game"(game where you play a role), any game where there is a definite protagonist could be considered an RPG, as you play that character's role. Legend of Zelda, Mario, or God of War for example.
Also you completey misunderstand what an "action RPG" is. AFAIK, the only action RPG he mentioned was Kingdom Hearts (though I could be wrong, haven't seen some of the games mentioned). I know most of them were at least turn-based. An "action RPG" is an rpg based upon fee-form combat, with no timing limitations such as turns, round actions, or autoattacks like in xenoblade.
Just looking at their names is so telling. "SmarterThanYou" and "MrHateful". It's like a cartoon.