Google Driverless Cars Get Into More Accidents Following Road Rules

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

" terrorists" would not necessarily target one car, they very well could target many cars, as they often seek to do mass damage. When you have guys like the zetas killing internet chat room users, and taking anonymous hackers hostage, you should understand eventually this will become more of a problem than it is now the more criminals have access to these things.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/11/zetas-internet-murder_n_1087894.html
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/nov/02/anonymous-zetas-hacking-climbdown

Fatal crashes happen enough to be considered common rather than uncommon. In Texas alone we have over 3k lethal accidents a year. Showing that most accidents are not lethal does not take away from how many times a day this actually happens. I was under the impression that people didn't consider the current amount of accidents acceptable, and that is why they seek to reduce them every year. That is why they constantly improve safety standards. We have plenty of things that are legal that are not " safe enough" but that is because most of those things do not have the potential to do mass damage like car or plane does, thus why we have heavier regulation on those things. No most home owners do not fence in their front yards, which are the parts of their yards that meet the road, not at all. AND the majority of farm fields here are NOT fenced, I have no idea why you would think they would. YES the animals DO break the fences here every day, it seems silly you seem to think they do not. Have you ever worked with livestock? Bulls? Goats? Horses? Yes they do get out .. all the time, otherwise we would not need cowboys out rounding them up all the damn time.

Yes, I was showing you humorous links about the silly animal incidents here since obviously the animals had to go in the road to get where they were at... Of course there is no danger when people safely navigated around them while they were in the road because humans are capable of doing that easily.

ah, the always looming threat of terrorists. If they see to do mass damage then they have failed because most people have died from falling out of bed than from terrorists in US. Also this is deliciuosly ironic since the terorrists have instilled terror in you without even having to do anything at all. they already won. Yep, being forwever afraid to do anything to improve quality of live in fear of "terrorists" is certainly going to defeat terrorism. no wonder your government is now breaking pretty much every human right under the guise of "fighting terrorism". terrorists became the new devil that everyone must fear.

Yes, organized crime is quite active online, this is nothing new though. anonymous went after Zetas themselves which forced the confrontation. though as far as i know only one hacker was ever taken hostage.

over 90% of crashes, especially the fatal ones, are casued by human error though. so even if malfuction crashes doubled removal of human error would be a significant improvement. You said you drive constantly, right? then you consider the current rate of accidents acceptable. otherwise you would refuse to use a car as too dangerous. but you drive, because the benefits outweigh the dangers. that does not mean we cannot put effort at increasing safety, merely that current state is acceptable to allow car traffic.

Oh, you mentioned planes. planes are pretty much self-driving already. the pilots there are mostly just to keep passengers happy and for landing the plane because human landing saves fuel somehow. the plane can land itself perfectly fine though. Pilots are mostly setting up the flight plan and leave it there. So by your logic terrorists should be hacking them left and right, yet, that never happened. we had terrorists taking over a plane and taking manual control, but no computer hacks. turns out if we removed manual control from planes 9/11 couldnt have happened. whoops.


Well i guess Texas is a magic land where animals make it their life's purpose of getting into traffic then because normal animals do not break out daily. I've worked with Cows and Pigs. there was one bull but horses. there were goats but i didnt interact with those. ive never seen any of them break out. ive seen a cow wander off when somone left the gate unlocked. but thats once again human error problem.


You do know that google cars are capable of navigating around animals too? they dont just maul them over.

"Terrorist" come in all shapes, simply because they do not call everything that applies " terrorism" does not mean it is not far more common than they like to report. The gang and cartel wars should be considered terrorism, organized crime should be considered terror ism. but they report these things under different names and shove it under the rug. Criminals are no longer " low tech". Even in Da grove http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pleasant+grove where my cousins live the criminals were not low tech.. In the old days they would cut someones brake line or put a car bomb on them.. with the new tech, they will not even have to do that.

The difference between cars and planes though is 1) criminals have less access to planes to have the opportunity to learn more about how to hack them, however over time this may become more common if more is not done to prevent it and 2) Terrorists have used planes as weapons and 3) They have hacked planes.

http://www.wired.com/2015/05/feds-say-banned-researcher-commandeered-plane/
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/04/12/hacking-in-flight-airplane-did-that-year-ago-hacker-says.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18643134
http://www.ibtimes.com/gps-terrorism-hackers-could-exploit-location-technology-hijack-ships-airplanes-1362937
http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2015/04/how-hack-military-drone/111391/
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/162462-hackers-hijack-a-super-yacht-with-simple-gps-spoofing-and-planes-could-be-next

Currently we would not know if some of the plane crashes were the result of hacking, as that would not be information governments would likely want to get out due to fear it could be repeated and reporting it as such would put more lives in danger by drawing attention to it encouraging others to learn about how to do these things. This is an issue we should expect to increase as we expand technology and education globally. the more people we educate to be capable of hacking, the more common this will become. And, YES we do want more people to become capable of hacking, we just need to make sure we do not put important things that are too risky to be hacked on the internet where they have easy access to them. These things do not actually have to have internet access, we can still do things the secure way and use a go between to screen prior to manually uploading updates.

Oh PLLEEEAASSE.. show me this magic land where animals do not get out of fences and I will show you road kill in that very land. LOL

Good thing you stayed away from the goats.. they love to escape from fences.
Fencing for Goats

"Fencing for goats
Yes, this title is a joke since keeping a goat in a fence can be almost impossible."
http://onpasture.com/2015/02/09/fencing-for-goats/

No, they don't work around the animals, they cannot tell the difference between a tumbleweed and an armadillo.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/18/driverless-cars-chances-halted-by-tumbleweed.html

 

[Strazdas]

"Terrorist" come in all shapes, simply because they do not call everything that applies " terrorism" does not mean it is not far more common than they like to report. The gang and cartel wars should be considered terrorism, organized crime should be considered terror ism. but they report these things under different names and shove it under the rug. Criminals are no longer " low tech". Even in Da grove http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pleasant+grove where my cousins live the criminals were not low tech.. In the old days they would cut someones brake line or put a car bomb on them.. with the new tech, they will not even have to do that.

The difference between cars and planes though is 1) criminals have less access to planes to have the opportunity to learn more about how to hack them, however over time this may become more common if more is not done to prevent it and 2) Terrorists have used planes as weapons and 3) They have hacked planes.

http://www.wired.com/2015/05/feds-say-banned-researcher-commandeered-plane/
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/04/12/hacking-in-flight-airplane-did-that-year-ago-hacker-says.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18643134
http://www.ibtimes.com/gps-terrorism-hackers-could-exploit-location-technology-hijack-ships-airplanes-1362937
http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2015/04/how-hack-military-drone/111391/
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/162462-hackers-hijack-a-super-yacht-with-simple-gps-spoofing-and-planes-could-be-next

Currently we would not know if some of the plane crashes were the result of hacking, as that would not be information governments would likely want to get out due to fear it could be repeated and reporting it as such would put more lives in danger by drawing attention to it encouraging others to learn about how to do these things. This is an issue we should expect to increase as we expand technology and education globally. the more people we educate to be capable of hacking, the more common this will become. And, YES we do want more people to become capable of hacking, we just need to make sure we do not put important things that are too risky to be hacked on the internet where they have easy access to them. These things do not actually have to have internet access, we can still do things the secure way and use a go between to screen prior to manually uploading updates.

Oh PLLEEEAASSE.. show me this magic land where animals do not get out of fences and I will show you road kill in that very land. LOL

Good thing you stayed away from the goats.. they love to escape from fences.
Fencing for Goats

"Fencing for goats
Yes, this title is a joke since keeping a goat in a fence can be almost impossible."
http://onpasture.com/2015/02/09/fencing-for-goats/

No, they don't work around the animals, they cannot tell the difference between a tumbleweed and an armadillo.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/18/driverless-cars-chances-halted-by-tumbleweed.html

On the contratry, they call everything terrorism [http://www.activistpost.com/2013/08/72-types-of-americans-that-are.html] whether it really is so or not.

Terrorism is the use of violence or threats to intimidate or coerce, usually for political reasoning. They create fear. Their only winning condition is that you are afraid of them. So no, the gangs and the cartels are not terrorists, they are criminals. they are breaking the law for personal gain, mostly from drug trade and CC fraud. their goal is not to create fear, but to profiteer.

I never claimed that criminals are low-tech. in fact i stated the opposite in the very post you are quoting.

You are right that criminals have less access to planes, but planes are not some secret government technology either. you can buy a private jet and you can use what you learn from it for other planes. the communication is pretty ubiquitous and it has to be considnering they are all communicating to same traffic towers and navigational data.
Yes, terrorists have used planes as weapons, but not by hacking them, but rather by taking them over manually.

Oh, look, more links.

1. The headline is misleading. he has simulated a possibility and pondered that a "convoluted set of hacks" could do it. he also spectated some packers in the plane system. or at least he claims to have done so. the fact that he is not in fact in jail leads me to believe that after the illegal seizure of his data they still did not find enough to convict him.
2. some hacker is boasting about what he done without anything to prove. at least the first story had a look of legitimate access to an airplane.
3. thats the drone story again. these drones use unencrypted communication to get told what to do. its not comparable to planes.
4. fearmongering
5. More drones and GPS spoofing
6. Didnt you already link this one?


aaaand now we devolved into "teh government conspiracy" theories.

Goats werent fenced in anyway. they never strayed far away from the yard. quite loyal apparently.

Note how the remaining of the article gives actual tips to fencing goats?

the second article talks about WV cars and given their current reputation id expect their autonomous cars to be the same. anyway. like the guy in the article said, some bugs still need to be weeded out, but thats why those cars are not freely available yet you know. The bugs will get fixed before they get on the market. If you see a baby learning to walk and he stubles the first time he meets an ostacle do you also declare that "nope, babies cannot walk, we should stop trying to teach them to walk"?

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

"Terrorist" come in all shapes, simply because they do not call everything that applies " terrorism" does not mean it is not far more common than they like to report. The gang and cartel wars should be considered terrorism, organized crime should be considered terror ism. but they report these things under different names and shove it under the rug. Criminals are no longer " low tech". Even in Da grove http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pleasant+grove where my cousins live the criminals were not low tech.. In the old days they would cut someones brake line or put a car bomb on them.. with the new tech, they will not even have to do that.

The difference between cars and planes though is 1) criminals have less access to planes to have the opportunity to learn more about how to hack them, however over time this may become more common if more is not done to prevent it and 2) Terrorists have used planes as weapons and 3) They have hacked planes.

http://www.wired.com/2015/05/feds-say-banned-researcher-commandeered-plane/
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/04/12/hacking-in-flight-airplane-did-that-year-ago-hacker-says.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18643134
http://www.ibtimes.com/gps-terrorism-hackers-could-exploit-location-technology-hijack-ships-airplanes-1362937
http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2015/04/how-hack-military-drone/111391/
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/162462-hackers-hijack-a-super-yacht-with-simple-gps-spoofing-and-planes-could-be-next

Currently we would not know if some of the plane crashes were the result of hacking, as that would not be information governments would likely want to get out due to fear it could be repeated and reporting it as such would put more lives in danger by drawing attention to it encouraging others to learn about how to do these things. This is an issue we should expect to increase as we expand technology and education globally. the more people we educate to be capable of hacking, the more common this will become. And, YES we do want more people to become capable of hacking, we just need to make sure we do not put important things that are too risky to be hacked on the internet where they have easy access to them. These things do not actually have to have internet access, we can still do things the secure way and use a go between to screen prior to manually uploading updates.

Oh PLLEEEAASSE.. show me this magic land where animals do not get out of fences and I will show you road kill in that very land. LOL

Good thing you stayed away from the goats.. they love to escape from fences.
Fencing for Goats

"Fencing for goats
Yes, this title is a joke since keeping a goat in a fence can be almost impossible."
http://onpasture.com/2015/02/09/fencing-for-goats/

No, they don't work around the animals, they cannot tell the difference between a tumbleweed and an armadillo.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/18/driverless-cars-chances-halted-by-tumbleweed.html

On the contratry, they call everything terrorism [http://www.activistpost.com/2013/08/72-types-of-americans-that-are.html] whether it really is so or not.

Terrorism is the use of violence or threats to intimidate or coerce, usually for political reasoning. They create fear. Their only winning condition is that you are afraid of them. So no, the gangs and the cartels are not terrorists, they are criminals. they are breaking the law for personal gain, mostly from drug trade and CC fraud. their goal is not to create fear, but to profiteer.

I never claimed that criminals are low-tech. in fact i stated the opposite in the very post you are quoting.

You are right that criminals have less access to planes, but planes are not some secret government technology either. you can buy a private jet and you can use what you learn from it for other planes. the communication is pretty ubiquitous and it has to be considnering they are all communicating to same traffic towers and navigational data.
Yes, terrorists have used planes as weapons, but not by hacking them, but rather by taking them over manually.

Oh, look, more links.

1. The headline is misleading. he has simulated a possibility and pondered that a "convoluted set of hacks" could do it. he also spectated some packers in the plane system. or at least he claims to have done so. the fact that he is not in fact in jail leads me to believe that after the illegal seizure of his data they still did not find enough to convict him.
2. some hacker is boasting about what he done without anything to prove. at least the first story had a look of legitimate access to an airplane.
3. thats the drone story again. these drones use unencrypted communication to get told what to do. its not comparable to planes.
4. fearmongering
5. More drones and GPS spoofing
6. Didnt you already link this one?


aaaand now we devolved into "teh government conspiracy" theories.

Goats werent fenced in anyway. they never strayed far away from the yard. quite loyal apparently.

Note how the remaining of the article gives actual tips to fencing goats?

the second article talks about WV cars and given their current reputation id expect their autonomous cars to be the same. anyway. like the guy in the article said, some bugs still need to be weeded out, but thats why those cars are not freely available yet you know. The bugs will get fixed before they get on the market. If you see a baby learning to walk and he stubles the first time he meets an ostacle do you also declare that "nope, babies cannot walk, we should stop trying to teach them to walk"?

A baby is a human, with millions of years of evolution involved, not a man made computer that is unable to do anything it is not programmed to do.

 

[Strazdas]

A baby is a human, with millions of years of evolution involved, not a man made computer that is unable to do anything it is not programmed to do.

completely missing the point....

Just because something does not work yet does not mean we cannot make it work. these computers are made by humans, with millions of years of evolution involved, too. Human is not "programmed" to walk either. he learns to do so. and he can program the computer to do so.