Got Anything Nice From ME3 MP DLC Yet?

[boag]

was that they took a look at the regular vanguards, saw what people liked to do with them (i.e. act like morons and charge into big groups and wreck house on bronze or get destroyed on silver/gold)

Vanguards die on Silver mode?

Human Vanguards that think their charge-nova-charge-nova tactic is as invincible as it is on Bronze, yes.

It isn't? Since when?

was that they took a look at the regular vanguards, saw what people liked to do with them (i.e. act like morons and charge into big groups and wreck house on bronze or get destroyed on silver/gold)

Vanguards die on Silver mode?

Human Vanguards that think their charge-nova-charge-nova tactic is as invincible as it is on Bronze, yes.

you know you can do charge melee nova spam on silver too right?

Look, you guys might be god's gift to the Vanguard class, or it might just be that every single random vanguard that I've played with doesn't know what they're doing, but here's my experience with Human Vanguards on Silver:

Charge-Nova combo to the other side of the map, get overwhelmed and shot down. Insert whining because no one comes to pick them up...maybe because they're on the opposite side of the map and there is now an army between them and the rest of the squad.

Well to be fair, its kinda rare to find a Vanguard that isnt and upchuck retard.

 

[Elamdri]

was that they took a look at the regular vanguards, saw what people liked to do with them (i.e. act like morons and charge into big groups and wreck house on bronze or get destroyed on silver/gold)

Vanguards die on Silver mode?

Human Vanguards that think their charge-nova-charge-nova tactic is as invincible as it is on Bronze, yes.

It isn't? Since when?

was that they took a look at the regular vanguards, saw what people liked to do with them (i.e. act like morons and charge into big groups and wreck house on bronze or get destroyed on silver/gold)

Vanguards die on Silver mode?

Human Vanguards that think their charge-nova-charge-nova tactic is as invincible as it is on Bronze, yes.

you know you can do charge melee nova spam on silver too right?

Look, you guys might be god's gift to the Vanguard class, or it might just be that every single random vanguard that I've played with doesn't know what they're doing, but here's my experience with Human Vanguards on Silver:

Charge-Nova combo to the other side of the map, get overwhelmed and shot down. Insert whining because no one comes to pick them up...maybe because they're on the opposite side of the map and there is now an army between them and the rest of the squad.

Hahaha, sorry. I know what you're talking about, I've played Silver matches with Vanguards who are pants-on-head retarded. But I don't think a good Vanguard should EVER go down on silver. I've pulled 90K matches on silver and I have a friend who pulled a 110K match.

Vanguards have two big enemies: Artillery and One-Shot kills. Artillery units can be avoided and you can USUALLY go toe-to-toe with Brutes, Banshees, and Atlases without getting grabbed. Phantoms I never worry about because Vanguards were like built to F-up Phantoms.

 

[RJ 17]

Hahaha, sorry. I know what you're talking about, I've played Silver matches with Vanguards who are pants-on-head retarded. But I don't think a good Vanguard should EVER go down on silver. I've pulled 90K matches on silver and I have a friend who pulled a 110K match.

Vanguards have two big enemies: Artillery and One-Shot kills. Artillery units can be avoided and you can USUALLY go toe-to-toe with Brutes, Banshees, and Atlases without getting grabbed. Phantoms I never worry about because Vanguards were like built to F-up Phantoms.

And like I said, perhaps you guys are god's gift to the Vanguard class, but every (keyword) random Vanguard that I play with is just a total downy that doesn't respect the enemy enough on Silver and ends up getting killed.

Well to be fair, its kinda rare to find a Vanguard that isnt and upchuck retard.

Annnnnnd there-in lies my point exactly. I've got a couple friends that are REALLY good vanguards that kick ass WITHOUT going crazy with the charge-nova combo. They use both skills very effectively and when appropriate. But for that matter, my friends that play Vanguard actually normally go Asari for Stasis.

All I'm saying is that I've only seen the Atlas insta-kill animation (essentially the same as the Brute's, grab the squadmate and slam them against the ground) once...and it happened to a Vanguard.

 

[TimeLord]

Only unlocked the Geth Plasma SMG.

Pretty good weapon actually.

100 base ammo, 500 in reserve, really quick rate of fire and the recoil is very easy to control, especially in cover.

I want the Asari Justicar and the Krogan Vanguard.

There's a Krogan Vanguard now?

Ooooooh might make me get back into the MP now!

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Only unlocked the Geth Plasma SMG.

Pretty good weapon actually.

100 base ammo, 500 in reserve, really quick rate of fire and the recoil is very easy to control, especially in cover.

I want the Asari Justicar and the Krogan Vanguard.

There's a Krogan Vanguard now?

Ooooooh might make me get back into the MP now!

Yeah, they might as well get rid of all the other races and classes.

Krogan Vanguard is damn near invincible when used properly.

 

[Elamdri]

Hahaha, sorry. I know what you're talking about, I've played Silver matches with Vanguards who are pants-on-head retarded. But I don't think a good Vanguard should EVER go down on silver. I've pulled 90K matches on silver and I have a friend who pulled a 110K match.

Vanguards have two big enemies: Artillery and One-Shot kills. Artillery units can be avoided and you can USUALLY go toe-to-toe with Brutes, Banshees, and Atlases without getting grabbed. Phantoms I never worry about because Vanguards were like built to F-up Phantoms.

And like I said, perhaps you guys are god's gift to the Vanguard class, but every (keyword) random Vanguard that I play with is just a total downy that doesn't respect the enemy enough on Silver and ends up getting killed.

Well to be fair, its kinda rare to find a Vanguard that isnt and upchuck retard.

Annnnnnd there-in lies my point exactly. I've got a couple friends that are REALLY good vanguards that kick ass WITHOUT going crazy with the charge-nova combo. They use both skills very effectively and when appropriate. But for that matter, my friends that play Vanguard actually normally go Asari for Stasis.

All I'm saying is that I've only seen the Atlas insta-kill animation (essentially the same as the Brute's, grab the squadmate and slam them against the ground) once...and it happened to a Vanguard.

I have noticed that a lot of bad Vanguards make poor choices when building the class. Fully recharging shields on Biotic Charge and Half-Blast on Nova are a must. I can't tell you how much I want to cry when I see a Vanguard without Half-Blast.

The problem is that people tend to build their classes while in Bronze and not think about how effective it will be in Silver and Gold. They focus on dealing damage when they should be focused on Survivability and Crowd Control. That's why Salarian Engineer is so beastly, between Decoy and Energy Drain, it's hard to take out a Salarian Engineer. Just today I was playing a Silver match on that new map Condor against Geth on Wave 10, our whole team went down (we were doing the 4 transmitters mission) and I threw up a Decoy to tank two Primes and two Pyros while I got the last transmitter. Then it was just a matter of spamming the ever-loving hell out of energy drain and refreshing the Decoy and we managed to pull out a Full Extraction.

 

[CrazyBlaze]

I have the Bartarian Solider and the Harpon Gun. The Solider kick ass. Using Blade Armor I have taken down brutes single handly with just meele. I'm not sure many of the other classes can do that. His meele is killer when it is combinded with Blade Armor. The Baliistic Blades are pretty useless because when you are in a good range to use them it is easier to run the couple of feet and use meele instead. You have to be really close for those Blades to be of any use. Same witht the shotgun. I switched out the shotgun because I just found that close range with the Bartarian solider is best with meele. Also I have crappy shotguns.

The Haarpon Gun sucks. Plain and simple. The damage is good but its firing is werid and compared to most of the other sniper rifles the sights are really slow. Maybe they get better when the gun level ups but I dont think I'll be using it too much. The firing needs a charge up and the arc is werid so by the time its fired the target has most likely moved and you can't keep up because of the slow sights.

 

[Tohuvabohu]

I have noticed that a lot of bad Vanguards make poor choices when building the class. Fully recharging shields on Biotic Charge and Half-Blast on Nova are a must. I can't tell you how much I want to cry when I see a Vanguard without Half-Blast.

The problem is that people tend to build their classes while in Bronze and not think about how effective it will be in Silver and Gold. They focus on dealing damage when they should be focused on Survivability and Crowd Control. That's why Salarian Engineer is so beastly, between Decoy and Energy Drain, it's hard to take out a Salarian Engineer. Just today I was playing a Silver match on that new map Condor against Geth on Wave 10, our whole team went down (we were doing the 4 transmitters mission) and I threw up a Decoy to tank two Primes and two Pyros while I got the last transmitter. Then it was just a matter of spamming the ever-loving hell out of energy drain and refreshing the Decoy and we managed to pull out a Full Extraction.

Rarely do I ever see a Vanguard on Gold, and the ones that are, usually play Asari instead.

As for Decoy, that stupid thing is a goddamned miracle on Gold. Really you can build entire 4-player strategies that rely on Decoys alone.

Just the other day I beat Geth on Gold for the first time mostly thanks to a Salarian's decoy (I've beaten cerberus and reapers on gold tons of times, but could not for the life of me beat the Geth ONCE.)Turns out the key to victory against Geth was lots and lots and lots and lots of tech bursts. Which, I should've realized way sooner.

I'm not sure how well we would've done without the Decoy though. I love that ability so much.

 

[Zen Toombs]

Geth Plasma SMG, Batarian Soldier and Asari Justicar. I kinda like the justicar, but I haven't played her at high difficulties so I'm not sure how great her bubble is. Or the best way to build it (protect allies or debuff enemies).

I'm REALLY looking forward to Krogan Battlemaster. It's what I wanted since I heard there was multiplayer with aliens in Mass Effect 3. :3

 

[killerguythefox]

Got them all throughout today got tons of upgrades and what not while getting them but im happy,
PS geth infiltrator is awesome

 

[Elamdri]

I have noticed that a lot of bad Vanguards make poor choices when building the class. Fully recharging shields on Biotic Charge and Half-Blast on Nova are a must. I can't tell you how much I want to cry when I see a Vanguard without Half-Blast.

The problem is that people tend to build their classes while in Bronze and not think about how effective it will be in Silver and Gold. They focus on dealing damage when they should be focused on Survivability and Crowd Control. That's why Salarian Engineer is so beastly, between Decoy and Energy Drain, it's hard to take out a Salarian Engineer. Just today I was playing a Silver match on that new map Condor against Geth on Wave 10, our whole team went down (we were doing the 4 transmitters mission) and I threw up a Decoy to tank two Primes and two Pyros while I got the last transmitter. Then it was just a matter of spamming the ever-loving hell out of energy drain and refreshing the Decoy and we managed to pull out a Full Extraction.

Rarely do I ever see a Vanguard on Gold, and the ones that are, usually play Asari instead.

As for Decoy, that stupid thing is a goddamned miracle on Gold. Really you can build entire 4-player strategies that rely on Decoys alone.

Just the other day I beat Geth on Gold for the first time mostly thanks to a Salarian's decoy (I've beaten cerberus and reapers on gold tons of times, but could not for the life of me beat the Geth ONCE.)Turns out the key to victory against Geth was lots and lots and lots and lots of tech bursts. Which, I should've realized way sooner.

I'm not sure how well we would've done without the Decoy though. I love that ability so much.

I wouldn't play Vanguard on Gold. A: it's too risky and B: It's not a Team class.

I really think Decoy is the best skill in the game, followed by Stasis.

 

[Terminate421]

Geth engineer on second try, thank god because the first one was a Batarian I had 130000 credits to use

Aside from Turians and Quarians, the Geth are my favorite

 

[RJ 17]

Got them all throughout today got tons of upgrades and what not while getting them but im happy,
PS geth infiltrator is awesome

Hey, what's the Hunter Mode ability do?

Stuff about crappy/unprepared vanguards and a point about decoy.

And that brings me PRECISELY back to my point: the vast majority of vanguards think that what they did in Bronze will slide in Silver. I don't play Vanguard so I never really understood this, but apparently there's a more defensive charge combo rather than max damage charge combo. Fair enough, but still the fact remains that most Vanguards try what they did in Bronze and absolutely fail in Silver.

As for Decoy, that honestly might be the single best ability in the game. It's right up there with Stasis and Cloak. Stasis is ridiculous because it's the anti-phantom spell, but doesn't work on armored folks. The Decoy, on the other hand, has the enemy just gathered around staring at it like they're a bunch of pot heads and it's the world's largest lava lamp. I put Cloak right up there with these two great abilities because there's so much you can do with Cloak. It can be a "get the fuck outta there" ability, it can be a "gotta save my teammate!" ability, it can be a "gotta cap one of the 4 objectives!" ability, and of course it can be a "I want my sniper shot to do maximum damage" ability. It's so frickin' versatile that I'd say it's worthy of being ranked right up there with Stasis and Decoy.

 

[Elamdri]

Stuff about crappy/unprepared vanguards and a point about decoy.

And that brings me PRECISELY back to my point: the vast majority of vanguards think that what they did in Bronze will slide in Silver. I don't play Vanguard so I never really understood this, but apparently there's a more defensive charge combo rather than max damage charge combo. Fair enough, but still the fact remains that most Vanguards try what they did in Bronze and absolutely fail in Silver.

There's two ways do Nova. Full Blast and Half Blast. Full Blast uses all your shields and does 100% damage. Half-Blast uses 50% of your shields and does 40% less damage. Now, the other talent for that level reduces the cooldown on your powers by 25% for 15s. However, if you think about it, that only knocks off like .5 seconds on Biotic Charge's cooldown. Now I don't know about everyone else, but between human reaction time and latency, half a second just doesn't seem like a big deal compared to having HALF my shields after a Nova.

I guess it's also possible that someone wouldn't take the level 6 biotic charge power that gives you full shields, but on a human it makes NO sense because the other talent only causes biotic charge to have a 25% chance to not trip the Global Cooldown, but since Nova isn't tied to the GCD, it makes no sense for a human to take it.

When I build my vanguard, I max Charge, Nova and Fitness, Put 5 points in Alliance training, and 3 points in Shockwave. That's worked well for me on Silver and Bronze. I don't do Vanguard on Gold.

As for Decoy, that honestly might be the single best ability in the game. It's right up there with Stasis and Cloak. Stasis is ridiculous because it's the anti-phantom spell, but doesn't work on armored folks. The Decoy, on the other hand, has the enemy just gathered around staring at it like they're a bunch of pot heads and it's the world's largest lava lamp. I put Cloak right up there with these two great abilities because there's so much you can do with Cloak. It can be a "get the fuck outta there" ability, it can be a "gotta save my teammate!" ability, it can be a "gotta cap one of the 4 objectives!" ability, and of course it can be a "I want my sniper shot to do maximum damage" ability. It's so frickin' versatile that I'd say it's worthy of being ranked right up there with Stasis and Decoy.

If there was a class with Decoy, Cloak and Stasis, it would be the most OP class ever.

 

[Frankster]

Got krogan vanguard with my 2nd spectre pack. Already being a krogan lover, i was over the moon.
Teleporting krogan is about as fun to play as you'd expect.

Also got batarian sentinel but ain't really got the hang of him yet.

Weapon wise got that new krogan assault rifle, forgot the name, geth plasma SMG, harpoon gun and falcon.

 

[RJ 17]

If there was a class with Decoy, Cloak and Stasis, it would be the most OP class ever.

Asari Commando, it'd have to be a Sentinel class since it's got Stasis (biotic) and Decoy (tech). And just for the hell of it: make it so that it's weapon bonus damage perks in the race/class specialization line would be for sniper rifles and shotguns. :3

 

[Chappy]

I got a Geth infiltrator today, Now if I can only get the Geth Plasma shotgun and colour scheme right i'm set.

Geth trolling. XD

Also got one of the new guns the Assualt rifle I can't remember it's name, and have had a game with each new class in so far if I recall Krogan vangaurd I don't like not because of what it is but because people seem to get over confident using him his shields are high but their not everlasting.

At the moment though i'm more interested in my Claymore wielding Infiltrator than the DLC the new classes don't really seem to be anything I'm interested in.

 

[killerguythefox]

It's a ability for any geth that allows brigther vision thermal see through walls ish stuff you can make it more accuracy boosting powers or likewise, In short its a accuracy movement speed and vision enhancer and maybe some stuff i cant remember >_< at the cost of 50% shields reduced but having over 1200 shields as geth isnt that bad for exchange of shields geth are extremely beast as infiltrator in most cases you are far superior to a normal infiltrator due to hunter mode and depending on if you use a widow or javelin

PS my quote failed thus why you see no quote to who im asnwering to

 

[The_Blue_Rider]

Lotta acronyms in that title...

Anyways, just curious what everyone's been getting from the new DLC. Out of 5 premium Specter packs and 2 standard specter packs I managed to get---

1 upgrade for my standard Widow (still don't have a B.Widow, btw), 10 old characters, and the Geth Plasma SMG which, I've got to say, I was pleasantly surprised to discover is actually pretty decent, unlike it's older brother the Pulse Rifle. Slap some Ultra Light Materials on that bad boy, give it to my Quarian Engineer and Turian Sentinel to give'em 200% recharge and just rock out with mah powahs. Gotta say it's nice to see a fully automatic weapon that leaves the target hurting (if not dead) after emptying an entire clip into them and not just mildly annoyed.

But on a related note, anyone got a Geth yet? If so, could you explain what the Hunter Mode ability does?

Uh basically Hunter mode highlights enemies through smoke and through walls within a certain range, it also increases damage, accuracy and movement speed slightly. It has no limit, as you can turn it on and off at will similar to fortification or tech armour. Its only downside is that it reduces shield strength by 50%, but that becomes a non issue you're playing as a Geth Infiltrator with maxed out fitness and Tactical cloak.

Oh and you can evolve it so that your powers recharge faster whilst its active. Sooo yeah, its amazing.

If no ones got it yet, I unlocked the Geth Infiltrator