Graduating, is it worth all the tests?

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sammyi19

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Hello there fellow escapists. Right so i thought i would bring up the topic is it worth all the tests and drama as a teen goin through school?

I know here in Australia the margain of success at attaining a job is only a miniscule percent more for people who do the end of school grading. Studies show you are only about 7% more likely to get a job because of the fact you done your QCS test. (i believe its about that percent may be a couple higher though)

On this research and others saying the stress and strain it puts on the kids is it really worth it? when you could simply not do said tests and work hard in the field on whatever job it is you are looking for. Whats your opinion escapists?
 

Gxas

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Graduating is always worth it. I don't know how much different it is in Australia, but here in America, without a high school diploma (or something equivalent), you bet your ass you won't have a high paying job.
 

Xyphon

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Put yourself in the employers shoes. Would you rather hire a person who has finished school and shown that they could put up with overwhelming stress? Or would you rather hire the one that has shown that they cannot handle stress and that they quit when the going gets tough?
 
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Yes. Tests are good. Who told you otherwise? Our leaders always know best.

See Olleana (it's a play). The parts about schooling might interest you.
 

bjj hero

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Of course you should graduate, unless you are looking for a career in fast food.
 

Mira Star

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MaxTheReaper said:
If you can't deal with the stress of taking a few tests, you're probably not cut out for anything more strenuous than making sure I get my iced coffee before it fully liquidizes.
Or schools are badly formatted and need to be reworked to better meet the needs of the students. Not everyone works well the way schools do things, and that tends to make tests harder.
 

Avernus

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Without graduating, you honestly do put serious limits on what employment will be available to you. Here is the kicker... if you employ yourself, it depends on what field you are in. For example, you have a landscaping and lawncare business, nobody really cares about your education level as long as you do a good job (and the government is satisfied you know how to file your taxes properly); on the other hand, if you're a consultant, say in the IT field, chances are you will be asked for your qualifications before you get the client (and you had best be able to produce).
 

tiredinnuendo

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Do you relish the idea of working as a stockboy for the whole of your adult life?

If not, finish school.

- J
 

Mira Star

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MaxTheReaper said:
Mira Star said:
Or schools are badly formatted and need to be reworked to better meet the needs of the students. Not everyone works well the way schools do things, and that tends to make tests harder.
Yeah, and maybe after they're done doing that, they'll go ahead and solve world hunger.
True, school is rarely designed to best benefit the students...

But the world is not designed to be as comfortable as possible.
I don't work well in a school environment.
I still recognize that I'm probably going to be uncomfortable my entire life, and that if I don't finish school, I get to be uncomfortable while flipping burgers.
Just because the world is not working well do mean we should just lay down and take it though.
 

WickedArtist

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Even if it is possible to do well without graduating school, even if it does somehow depend on what you wish to do for the rest of your life, that's an exception. Do you want the foundation of your life to be the hope of being an exception?

Heck, either way it doesn't resolve you from hard work. And school, flawed as it is, is very far from being the hardest thing you'll have to go through in your life. So suck it up and find your own ways to deal with it.

Or not. Less competition for the rest of your peers.
 

Robyrt

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You're not looking at the right set of statistics.

The difference between QCS and dropouts may be only 7%. The difference between a bachelor's degree and a QCS is much larger. The difference between a master's degree and a bachelor's degree is $18,000 in your starting salary.

Finishing school keeps your options open. If you change your mind in the next 20 years, you're going to wish you had done it when you had the chance. It's that simple.
 

sammyi19

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I should have specified, i myself have finished school graduated grade 12 but did not do the australian ranking tests, which is what i mean of course the how do you rank in your state tests.
I myself did not choose to do these tests as i have become a plumber. As far as a trade goes here in Australia, we are more often than not better payed than suites and desk working people, as it states Plumbers, Electricians are the new millionaires. Me myself would advise kids to stay at school unless they can undergo getting a apprenticeship earlier!