Any porn involving violence has been banned here for a looooong time...Normalgamer said:
But then again X rated material can only be sold in the NT and ACT... everywhere else you have to get it via mail order or the net (or travel to the NT or ACT)
Grats Australia
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But then again X rated material can only be sold in the NT and ACT... everywhere else you have to get it via mail order or the net (or travel to the NT or ACT)
I think the Old Testament would make a brilliant game... although maybe with the incest toned down, that shit is just nasty.Harlief said:
Ahhhhhhh, after skimming the article I thought they finally had an 18+ rating. Now they're just robbing games that previously had a 15+ rating and slap an 18+ on it despite that rating technically still not existing, which means that they're effectively just banning those games. That is unbelievable dirty. You know what Australia, I wanted to live there, but screw you, I'm staying away from that place.adam5396 said:
And is that a bad thing?emeraldrafael said:
Common people! We let our kids go on movies such as the dark knight and other spectacular films.
But I just want to point out, is there any data about violent video games turning kids into murderers? Yes? No?
Because try to give a young gamer a gun and shoot from it, he'll probably be scared as shit.
Sorry but you're reading it wrong. If the AG gives it the go ahead, we'll get the R18+ rating.adam5396 said:
If they don't. The old system remains.
That quote from O'Connor has actually been cut short. He actually said that games that have been banned previously won't be put into R18+ unless they are resubmitted to the board and comply with the R18+ standard.
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Ahhhhhhh, after skimming the article I thought they finally had an 18+ rating. Now they're just robbing games that previously had a 15+ rating and slap an 18+ on it despite that rating technically still not existing, which means that they're effectively just banning those games. That is unbelievable dirty. You know what Australia, I wanted to live there, but screw you, I'm staying away from that place.[/quote]
Yep... you still don't understand the situation. We do finally have an R 18 rating (maybe if it goes through the committee ) when he says they are still banned He means that the rating hasn't been approved yet. i guess you could say we are celebrating early.
Ahhhhhhh, after skimming the article I thought they finally had an 18+ rating. Now they're just robbing games that previously had a 15+ rating and slap an 18+ on it despite that rating technically still not existing, which means that they're effectively just banning those games. That is unbelievable dirty. You know what Australia, I wanted to live there, but screw you, I'm staying away from that place.[/quote]
Yep... you still don't understand the situation. We do finally have an R 18 rating (maybe if it goes through the committee ) when he says they are still banned He means that the rating hasn't been approved yet. i guess you could say we are celebrating early.
Yes, that's exactly what they're doing except for where you got everything wrong.Cowabungaa said:
They can't slap an R18+ on anything until the rating exists. They'd have no basis for their decision if there is no criteria to define the rating which won't exist until the rating exists. That would be asking for publishers to sue their arses off.
All they've done is signal their intent to review a number of games currently rated MA15+ to see if they more properly belong in the R18+ category if/when such a category is introduced.
DING DING fucking DING!Lion_Slicer said:
Exactly, all he's said is that RCs aren't going to be automatically overturned.
That isn't the case at all. Some games may be reclassified, it depends on how the Classification board want to approach the issue.SL33TBL1ND said:
There are articles out there that explain it better than the Terrorgraph. If people here read more than just the headline of this article they would have a better understanding of the situation. There are other pieces out there which explain it much better.
We're supposed to be the educated ones who don't get caught up in the sensationalism and out of context quotes.
Although it's infuriating reading so many confused posts, a part of me thinks that the way they've written the article works well. If gamers who should know about the issue are getting confused then imagine the Sunrise Soldiers who cried because they thought an R18+ rating was going to allow games such as "Rapecore 3: The Rapening" into the country. They'll read the article and see that the evil R18+ rating isn't so evil at all. In fact, they might just realise that the R18+ rating means that the evil GTA game which they still buy for their children isn't supposed to be for their children.
I'm going to give up on trying to correct posts saying that this is a bad thing for Australian gamers. I'll wait for Yahtzee to explain the situation.
Final note: Sunrise is a show on Australian television. It is the very definition of mainstream sheeple-vision. Sunrise Soldiers refers to the masses who hang on it's every word. Although it may have become more edgy since I last saw it, so their official stance may be to support the R18+ rating, who knows?
I don't think this new legislation will make much of a difference. Kids that are 15 very rarely have jobs. They themselves don't buy the game, it's their parents that buy the game for them. It doesn't matter how high you rate the game, kids are still going to play it.
At this point in time, I can't think of any way to keep violent video games out of the hands of kids other than stricter, more personal information being required to create a console account that will prevent underage accounts from playing adult video games. yes, there will likely be hacks or console mods, but they would be difficult to obtain and implement, and could result in permanent banning from that system not only for the account, but for that person itself.
At this point in time, I can't think of any way to keep violent video games out of the hands of kids other than stricter, more personal information being required to create a console account that will prevent underage accounts from playing adult video games. yes, there will likely be hacks or console mods, but they would be difficult to obtain and implement, and could result in permanent banning from that system not only for the account, but for that person itself.
Here is what's happening:
Australia is getting an r18 rating. Meaning that games such as l4d2 will no longer be censored. No more censoring.
End of story.
Australia is getting an r18 rating. Meaning that games such as l4d2 will no longer be censored. No more censoring.
End of story.
They didn't say that. They said they won't be unbanning them which means they won't be simply overturning Refused Classification ratings. It will be up to the publishers of RC'ed games to resubmit them to the OFLC for evaluation under the new guidelines.higgs20 said:
Soooo there's absolutely no reason to go all /rage about this? Those games get 18+ ratings all over the world already, re-submitting them won't be much of a problem. A storm in a glass of water, as we call it.RhombusHatesYou said:
That is, unless the R18+ requirements will be ridiculously strict.
australia hasnt got an R18+ rating so a lot of games have been banned or coming into the country at an MA15+ rating. basically once australia gets the R rating our classification system will be updated with the rest of the world and we'll most likely have other games that would otherwise be banned come in. thats allPeePantz said:
Why, oh why, do they insist on referring to these as "violent" games? At the risk of sounding cliched, I don't think it means what they think it means.
Definition: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/violence
The closest any game could really come is to 3b. And that'll only apply if the player is a nerd-raging reject anyway. I sure as hell don't get that worked up about my games.
Next, they'll start claiming that Mario is "violent" because he jumps up and down on the poor mushroom dudes and throws fireballs at the turtles. And then they'll probably try to throw the political correctness card in there and say that he's only doing it because he's Italian and they're turtles, and this is a euphamism for racism or whatever. Seriously. WTF.
It's about time that the governments spend their time focusing on REAL problems, ya know... like the illegal war they've got going in Afghanistan... and spent less time trying to "control" all of us "potential psychopaths" i.e. gamers, to prevent us trying to overthrow the world with a toaster and three kittens or whatever.
Definition: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/violence
The closest any game could really come is to 3b. And that'll only apply if the player is a nerd-raging reject anyway. I sure as hell don't get that worked up about my games.
Next, they'll start claiming that Mario is "violent" because he jumps up and down on the poor mushroom dudes and throws fireballs at the turtles. And then they'll probably try to throw the political correctness card in there and say that he's only doing it because he's Italian and they're turtles, and this is a euphamism for racism or whatever. Seriously. WTF.
It's about time that the governments spend their time focusing on REAL problems, ya know... like the illegal war they've got going in Afghanistan... and spent less time trying to "control" all of us "potential psychopaths" i.e. gamers, to prevent us trying to overthrow the world with a toaster and three kittens or whatever.
Now you're getting it. Despite what some people might want you to think it is far more common for a game that's M17/R18 elsewhere to get rated MA15+ here without any modification whatsoever than it is for said games to be modified to make the cut or refused classification.Cowabungaa said:
That's really just what we want the government to think. By introducing an R18+ rating for games the Office of Film and Literature classification can apply R18+ ratings and stop banning games that don't fit into the MA15+ rating.emeraldrafael said:
Yes, at the same time it prevents inappropriate content from being shoehorned into a somewhat unclear MA15+ bracket, but there's still a line the classification board won't cross - Left 4 Dead 2 for instance would have made the cut for an R18+. Now, future games like Left 4 Dead 2 won't have to be edited to fit the MA15+ rating.
Of course the board will still ban games with really inappropriate content, like rape and other really fucked up shit. And it might shed a few ten year olds from the next Call of Duty.