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Wrann

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Reading though this it seems that people dislike the same things here. Mainly LotR, Shakespeare, The Mona Lisa, and Catcher in the Rye. Now while I rather enjoy LotR and most of Shakespeare (I have not read all of his stuff so I can't say I like or dislike it). What I think of the Mona Lisa is that is was popular at the time of its creation and just stayed popular for no good reason really.

With Catcher in the Rye I really just hated Holden, it was that he was so absurdly annoying and had pretty much no redeeming quality's at all. Then again I did hate that entire English class so that could have affected my view on the book.
 

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Drakmeire said:
Anything by Pink Floyd, the later work of the Beatles, and Radiohead. I know they are geniuses but I think as musicians they fail and produced some truly unlistenable music even if it was deep, meaningful and experimental.
I'm with you on this, and would like to add:
Pretty much every "great German literature
 

Racecarlock

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To Kill a Mocking Bird and A Tree Grows In Brooklyn.

First off, there's the morals. Wow, racism is wrong and being poor in 1920s new york is hard? I HAD NO IDEA! These stories pretend to be deep, but really aren't. Which brings to my next point.

Oh my god. These books are so boring that i'd rather play settlers of catan. You can try to pretend the events are connected, but most of them are very unconnected and seem random at best. They're great if you enjoy coming of age dramas or courtroom trial fantasies, but if you want to stay awake and interested i'd look elsewhere. Oh yeah, and A Tree Grows in Brooklyn has a whole shitload of religious undertones and treats sex like how fundamentalists treat sex, and To Kill A Mockingbird is filled to the brim with redneckiness and takes place in a small town and also the kids are scared of a house because the kid who lives there is a shut-in and therefore has lots of bullshit rumors tacked on to him that even the adults believe for no good reason. I was forced to read these books for english class. I will never in my life read them again.
 

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Pink Floyd's the Dark Side of the Moon. Weird ass sound effects, takes too long to get to the damn song. My opinion anyway.
 

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archvile93 said:
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archvile93 said:
That would be correct, not that it makes it any less idiotic. In fact make that issue number seven. I used it at first, but seeing as using it on living enemies alerts everyone in the level to your exact posistion and using it on the dead isn't worth shit, I gave up on it.
Yeah, it's pretty hard to take pictures of the bad guys, but one day you might be pro enough to do it lol.

Srsly tho... You are very much in the minority for not liking Bioshock.
I'm aware of that, since I looked up the metacritic score, though last time I checked Halo has a better one; better than HL2 as well.
Well... I firmly stand by the idea that a game defined as good by the amount of people who like it. Half Life was great for me, but I can understand why more people would take the simplicity of Halo over it.

People can over-analyze the shit out of any game, but they are ruining it for themselves. This is all too common when people over-hype the shit out of something in today's day and age. People are so jaded now that hype makes them WANT to hate new media.

Maybe you genuinely don't like Bioshock, but I'm willing to bet a lot of people fall into the former category.
 

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Dune. The movie was extremely boring, had a nonsensical plot, and is unbelievably overrated.
*Looks out window to see a mob of sci-fi nerds with torches and pitchforks.*
 

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Racecarlock said:
To Kill a Mocking Bird and A Tree Grows In Brooklyn.

First off, there's the morals. Wow, racism is wrong and being poor in 1920s new york is hard? I HAD NO IDEA! These stories pretend to be deep, but really aren't. Which brings to my next point.
I agree these books have lost all timelessness that they once had, but if you have a good imagination and can put yourself in the right timeframe, they are exceptional books.
 

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lazinesslord said:
Dune. The movie was extremely boring, had a nonsensical plot, and is unbelievably overrated.
*Looks out window to see a mob of sci-fi nerds with torches and pitchforks.*
The movie was extremely
The movie
Even Brian Herbert's books are better than that shitty ass movie.

Go read the damn book, it's exceptional... and is literally cooler than Episode V, ToS of Star Trek, and Mass Effect combined.
 

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People really hate Lotr here, don't they?

I am really disliking Dracula, if that counts as a great masterpiece anyway. The first 4 chapters were brilliant though.
I concede that the ending feels anti-climactic, but I still like Dracula on the whole.
 

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Ethylene Glycol said:
Ever listen to Animals? It came between Wish You Were Here and The Wall, so it's in that time period. It also sounds a lot like The Wall. Just out of curiosity.
 

richard misiak

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the mona lisa is kind of like the paris hilton of paintings, famous for being famous.

loved The Hobbit, loved the movies, read a tolkien encyclopedia cover to cover. the lotr books however suck balls in my opinion. So much useless desciption, such boring boring books.
 

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Where the Red Fern Grows. Required reading 'bout some dogs. The worst part was deciphering the Southern twang all the characters had. The fuck we had to read that for?
 

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Hairetos said:
M Rotter said:
Hairetos said:
I hate A LOT of old things. Dunno why, and I can't say I'm biased since I don't even know they're old before I hate them. It's just one big coincidence.

I hate classic rock all the way through the obnoxious hair metal people like to play in Intro to Guitar classes. I also don't like classic metal (Megadeth, Motorhead, old Metallica, etc.). I like a lot of newer metal genres.

I hate old movies for their lack of...interesting things to do. I dunno, they're just boring.

If you've ever taken an AP English class, you'll learn that almost all of the classic books of "literary merit" run a dull gamut of the same themes. They're pretty much centered around the different types of conflict: person vs. person, person vs. self, person vs. society, which then divulge into relationship, political, ideological, etc. The fact that one AP prompt can be addressed by somewhere around 50 of these books is a testament to this. Plot's not important CUZ U SEID SUMTHNG PROFUND!

I do like Baroque classical music though. Much better than Romantic era stuff.
Most conflicts do boil down to those three (and i got the same handout) and i feel like maybe your opinion of the books is colored because that was explained like that. Sure some authors might have sat down to write a book exploring those themes, but most wrote a story that was meaningful that fit into one, two, or all three. That English handout exists because of the books not the other way around
My biggest issue is that they can get away with having sub-par plots so long as they say something interesting about something. One of the biggest examples contradicting my point is Candide, by Voltaire. It makes an obvious point, has a hilarious plot, and is short and sweet. I feel Candide embodies what books of literary merit should be. Also, The Stranger did a similar job, albeit with a far less interesting plot.

A lot of my hatred for these books comes from the fact that they're compulsory. The arguments for making them required readings are pretty much some variations of: "They're classics, you should learn them" and "It'll make you more well-read and therefore smarter". That's true, they'll probably make you smarter to some degree. Chess does that too. So does playing an instrument. Neither of these are required, however, because it's ridiculous to mandate something which should be considered a hobby. Reading should be something kept fun. Different people will have different reactions to different activities. It's ridiculous to expect everyone to enjoy it and even more ludicrous to force them to read these books.

Since I started taking these literature-based classes, I've not picked up a fiction book of my own desire. I've ultimately become desensitized to the most important question of reading: "is it interesting? My friends tend to feel the same way, which I think is the sad part.

/rant about AP English.
This. AP English was generally horrible. My last two years in English were terrible (Metamorphosis, the Stranger, Sun Also Rises, Great Gatsby, Ethan Frome, among other things...did sorta like Crime and Punishment but ended up Sparknotesing the last third because I just procrastinated too much). 1984 was worth the read though, especially because of all of the allusions to it these days in our daily lives.

That said, Les Mis, Count of Monte Cristo, were nice reads in tenth grade. Wuthering Heights was just *SHOOT ME NAO PLZKTHX*. Ugh. Dumb book.

Though in freshman year in HS...Odyssey, Ayn Rand's Anthem (I liked this one a lot, don't hate me for liking Ayn Rand), Sound of Waves, and the most epic of stories: 47 RONIN, BIATCHES! Now *THAT* book was just flat out amazing! A story about sheer badassery. Who doesn't like that?
 

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Mafia (yes the original) It was decent, but not a good game in my opinion
Jane Eyre - Just bad, the story is a cliche in the modern day, and the writing is dry.
Other ones, but these stand out
 

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TES III: Morrowind

Why people constantly bash Oblivion while simultaneously praise Morrowind as the better game will never become clear to me,
 

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Dwarfman said:
zehydra said:
Drakmeire said:
Anything by Pink Floyd, the later work of the Beatles, and Radiohead. I know they are geniuses but I think as musicians they fail and produced some truly unlistenable music even if it was deep, meaningful and experimental.
but... but... The Dark Side of the Moon!
And The Wall, Sergant Pepper's and The White Album as well! Ah well I suppose everyone has different tastes.
sort of irrelevant but personally I don't regard Sergeant Pepper's as a late-period beatles album. imo that period starts with magical mystery tour (with Please Please Me to Beatles for Sale being early, and Help to Sergeant Pepper being mid)

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Tanksie said:
im not slaging you but its important to know the difference between something bein bad any you not likeing something the early bettles stuff was bad but after they stoped singing about the music became some of the best ever.
why is that? I love the early beatles stuff
 

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two Words, Wuthering Heights, i had to read it for english in high school, i had to, i didn't, good thing the teacher thought we were all retarded and spoon fed us the whole book, It's not a classic, it's not even good, it's a very disturbed young woman writing creepy stories about wanting emotionally distant men, so basically, it's twilight for your grandmother, reader personality insertion Blank-Slate Girl falls for emotionally retarded man, love triangle develops, emotionally retarded man runs off, she goes for someone else, the best thing is that no body gets a happy ending.

and for some reason the teacher loved this book and wanted us to love it