Great Non-human Villains

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Laser Priest

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Boris Goodenough said:
cojo965 said:
You've kinda missed my point. There are more obviously evil dragons than ambiguously evil ones, which is why I like Grigori. He, in person, doesn't seem genuinely evil, but the world around him paints him as such, while Smaug (I like him by the way) is as much a bastard as the world says he is. I'm just saying Grigori is a nice grey area as dragons go.
My point was, it's hard to fault something for being generic when it was among the first :)
I may be mistaken, but I'm fairly sure there was an extensive amount of mythology involving dragons long before Tolkien ever wrote about them.

And as was mentioned earlier in the thread, I would have to say the Lich of Adventure Time. In an otherwise silly and lighthearted show, the Lich almost always has an uneasy presence and the simple goal of KILLING EVERYONE. And he's manipulative and doesn't seem to fall into the traps other villains often fall into. It seems when he is defeated, it's often by something he couldn't have seen coming. Most of the show's villains are incompetent or just there to be laughed at, but the Lich is simply pure evil handled properly.
 

Zen Bard

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thaluikhain said:
Zen Bard said:
Also, the aliens in "Whisperer in the Darkness" weren't sending stone off world. They were sending disembodied human brains packed in cylinders...presumably for slave labor or some other nefarious purpose. (One of the Mi Go sort of hints at the brain cylinders being stuffed into artificial bodies at the other end of the trip).

I remember that particularly because, despite being a creepy "Old One's" tale, it was actually a great straight-up sci fi story.
Wasn't their original plan just to quarry stone, sending people offworld for some unspecified purpose only came up later when people found out about them?
If I recall, quarrying stone was their cover for setting up shop there. Actually, I think their actual PLAN was to find a way to usher in the Old Ones.
 

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the December King said:
thaluikhain said:
Zen Bard said:
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Go ahead. Worship him all you want. He doesn't give a shit.

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Dunno if you could call him a bad guy, really, his plan is to sit at the bottom of the ocean having a nap in a city with weird angles.

Lovecraft was a bit funny with his evil monsters. Likewise, in "The Whisperer in the Darkness", the alien's original plan was, IIRC, to hang around in the mountains where nobody .lived, avoid all contact with humans, and quarry stone to send offworld, just in a really creepy alien way. I mean, I'm sure that's illegal, and they should be paying taxes, and maybe they are obliged to be registered with a union and all, but not particularly that evil. Sure, in the story, it sounds very evil, but when I stopped to think about it, not so much.
I get what you're saying, like their evil was mostly incidental to what they were about.

I think the Mi Go might have crossed the line from trespassing and property theft and into assault and grevious bodily harm (?), but again, it's alot like the mafia keeping their interests insured.

The hideous Whateleys on the other hand are definitely evil, what with trying to summon up cosmic horror and all.

Even if it was just to see their dad.

...

Hang on... maybe that's merely visitation rights being subverted. Hmmm...

I'm seeing laws broken, but not alot of evil...

"Lovecraft and his Tales Of Macabre Cosmic Disobedience!"
Well, the big End Game for the Mi Go, being the good intergalactic servants the are, was to open a portal for the rest of the Old Ones. Because that's pretty much the MO of ALL Lovecraft's monsters ("Pickman's Model" and "The Outsider" not withstanding).

Again, my initial candidate for inhuman evil wasn't the Mi Go, but the Great Cthulhu himself.

And he wants nothing short of humanity's destruction and his people to rule once again. Which is pretty evil from our point of view.
 

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Laser Priest said:
I may be mistaken, but I'm fairly sure there was an extensive amount of mythology involving dragons long before Tolkien ever wrote about them.
There have been but they were not personified beyond "evil being/satan".
 

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Zen Bard said:
the December King said:
thaluikhain said:
Zen Bard said:
<img src=http://images8.alphacoders.com/412/412908.jpg>

Go ahead. Worship him all you want. He doesn't give a shit.

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Dunno if you could call him a bad guy, really, his plan is to sit at the bottom of the ocean having a nap in a city with weird angles.

Lovecraft was a bit funny with his evil monsters. Likewise, in "The Whisperer in the Darkness", the alien's original plan was, IIRC, to hang around in the mountains where nobody .lived, avoid all contact with humans, and quarry stone to send offworld, just in a really creepy alien way. I mean, I'm sure that's illegal, and they should be paying taxes, and maybe they are obliged to be registered with a union and all, but not particularly that evil. Sure, in the story, it sounds very evil, but when I stopped to think about it, not so much.
I get what you're saying, like their evil was mostly incidental to what they were about.

I think the Mi Go might have crossed the line from trespassing and property theft and into assault and grevious bodily harm (?), but again, it's alot like the mafia keeping their interests insured.

The hideous Whateleys on the other hand are definitely evil, what with trying to summon up cosmic horror and all.

Even if it was just to see their dad.

...

Hang on... maybe that's merely visitation rights being subverted. Hmmm...

I'm seeing laws broken, but not alot of evil...

"Lovecraft and his Tales Of Macabre Cosmic Disobedience!"
Well, the big End Game for the Mi Go, being the good intergalactic servants the are, was to open a portal for the rest of the Old Ones. Because that's pretty much the MO of ALL Lovecraft's monsters ("Pickman's Model" and "The Outsider" not withstanding).

Again, my initial candidate for inhuman evil wasn't the Mi Go, but the Great Cthulhu himself.

And he wants nothing short of humanity's destruction and his people to rule once again. Which is pretty evil from our point of view.
Too true! And I'm sure that a few of the others were pretty vile, all told, as well. The Colour Out of Space, aside from breeding, did seem to take a perverse, but conscious, delight in corrupting the flesh of the sentient.

Nyarlathotep, also, was a bastard.

Oh, and the Terrible Old Man! But I suppose he was a man. More or less.
 

Laser Priest

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Boris Goodenough said:
Laser Priest said:
I may be mistaken, but I'm fairly sure there was an extensive amount of mythology involving dragons long before Tolkien ever wrote about them.
There have been but they were not personified beyond "evil being/satan".
Or, ya know, treated as beings associated with forces of nature and the universe itself.

Hell, Tolkien personified them less. Smaug is the most boring dragon ever.
 

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All the Mass Effecty people are saying Saren, and any who don't would probably say Sovereign, I know, but... honestly?



I'm sorry, I fucking love Harbinger. I love the menace in his voice, I love his egotistical dialogue, everything. I really like the way they wrote him: some people say that he's "too emotional" about his whole Shepard vendetta, but I thought it made sense: he's being doing this, over and over again, for countless tens of millions of years. And for the first time in, again, COUNTLESS TENS OF MILLIONS OF YEARS, for the FIRST TIME, ONE SINGLE BEING has managed to defy him more then any other beings EVER HAVE before, even en masse. Of COURSE he'd be furious, and of COURSE he'd have an obsessive curiosity.
 

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Interplanetary Ninja Assassin Claptrap!
He was funny.
He was annoying.
He brought back all my other favourite villains and claptrapified them!

and....

MorganL4 said:
So, how did we get this far in the list without the obvious answer?
Yes! My favourite Disney villain. Such a badass and he has the best song IMO.
 

Zen Bard

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the December King said:
Zen Bard said:
the December King said:
thaluikhain said:
Zen Bard said:
<img src=http://images8.alphacoders.com/412/412908.jpg>

Go ahead. Worship him all you want. He doesn't give a shit.

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Dunno if you could call him a bad guy, really, his plan is to sit at the bottom of the ocean having a nap in a city with weird angles.

Lovecraft was a bit funny with his evil monsters. Likewise, in "The Whisperer in the Darkness", the alien's original plan was, IIRC, to hang around in the mountains where nobody .lived, avoid all contact with humans, and quarry stone to send offworld, just in a really creepy alien way. I mean, I'm sure that's illegal, and they should be paying taxes, and maybe they are obliged to be registered with a union and all, but not particularly that evil. Sure, in the story, it sounds very evil, but when I stopped to think about it, not so much.
I get what you're saying, like their evil was mostly incidental to what they were about.

I think the Mi Go might have crossed the line from trespassing and property theft and into assault and grevious bodily harm (?), but again, it's alot like the mafia keeping their interests insured.

The hideous Whateleys on the other hand are definitely evil, what with trying to summon up cosmic horror and all.

Even if it was just to see their dad.

...

Hang on... maybe that's merely visitation rights being subverted. Hmmm...

I'm seeing laws broken, but not alot of evil...

"Lovecraft and his Tales Of Macabre Cosmic Disobedience!"
Well, the big End Game for the Mi Go, being the good intergalactic servants the are, was to open a portal for the rest of the Old Ones. Because that's pretty much the MO of ALL Lovecraft's monsters ("Pickman's Model" and "The Outsider" not withstanding).

Again, my initial candidate for inhuman evil wasn't the Mi Go, but the Great Cthulhu himself.

And he wants nothing short of humanity's destruction and his people to rule once again. Which is pretty evil from our point of view.
Too true! And I'm sure that a few of the others were pretty vile, all told, as well. The Colour Out of Space, aside from breeding, did seem to take a perverse, but conscious, delight in corrupting the flesh of the sentient.

Nyarlathotep, also, was a bastard.

Oh, and the Terrible Old Man! But I suppose he was a man. More or less.
Oh yeah! Like those sick bastard fish-people at Innsmouth! Or Dean Stockwell in "The Dunwitch Horror". Sure he redeemed himself by travelling with Dr. Beckett. But then he became a genocidal Cylon.

Just prove my point that no good can come from trafficking with the Old Ones.
 

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R.E.G.I.S. is the destroyer of worlds, consumer of their rubble, bringer of despair. The R.E.G.I.S. Mark V is invincible. The R.E.G.I.S. Mark V is the ultimate fighting machine. Unstoppable, merciless, glorious. No one is safe from the R.E.G.I.S..
 

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Boris Goodenough said:
Laser Priest said:
I may be mistaken, but I'm fairly sure there was an extensive amount of mythology involving dragons long before Tolkien ever wrote about them.
There have been but they were not personified beyond "evil being/satan".
Speaking of which...

[http://s962.photobucket.com/user/akhilgodbole/media/6006205_f520_zps6291bc4a.jpg.html]

...The devil's pretty important when talking about nonhuman villains.

And speaking of Tim Curry:

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SoranMBane

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GLaDOS is best villain:


Besides that, I have to give a shout-out to two of the formative villains of my childhood:



I sifted through a lot of unpleasant fan art looking for a decent picture of this guy. I hope you appreciate it.

Redwall and Digimon were two of my very favourite things ever as a kid, and neither of them would have been quite the same without these two bastions of evilness running the show.

Oh, and even though he's the protagonist of his show, Zim is technically a villain, isn't he?


Gotta love the hammy ones.