Australia didn't ban them outright though, we banned assault rifles, and have heavy background checks for rifles and pistols. Considering America's current position that wouldnt be a bad idea, especially since a pistol is all you need for home defence, which is what the NRA claims guns are for.Skywolf09 said:
No. The fact that I can leave my doors unlocked is a sign that crime is low (although we still lock them at night.). Of course, its worth noting that the area I live in has less than 50 people, is unincorperated (meaning there is no local government to speak of short of volunteer fire department and neighborhood watch), the "town" is a church, community building, fire station with an old fire truck (thats converted from an old army truck), and 3 houses. And the average age of people around here are around 50 and being farmers. THATS the reason I can keep my door unlocked.wulf3n said:
And lo, you have just found the great curse of statistics over this particular topic. Most of the research into defensive gun uses is so politicized BOTH ways that its hard to tell whos telling the truth. The lowest estimates have put it at 100,000 defensive uses per year (in all situations) and the highest ever said 2 million per year. However, the general consensus from those who are more level headed say that the number is most likely closer to 300,000, give or take 50,000. Then compare that to the alittle over 11,000 we had killed last year by guns, and I would say guns are not that bad.
Huh, they haven't? I was under the impression that guns in general were pretty much nigh on impossible to get legally...RicoADF said:
You're kind of missing the point.BOOM headshot65 said:
Really? =/ huh. Here that tends to mean Puerto Rico.marurder said:
Actually mate, as already stated:tangoprime said:
Basically over here you can buy bolt action rifles, and pistols for club shooting etc. You can't have a gun 'for self defence', however the US wouldn't have to follow that if they didn't want. For us you need a legit reason such as work (police/military), club or competative shooting, or collectors (I think there are a few others but cant recall off the top of my head). Heavy background checks are done and a license must be kept upto date. They must be stored in a heavy safe or one bolted securely to the property and when being taken to a different location must be in a secured case. Ammo cannot be stored with the gun at any time.RicoADF said:
I've expanded apon it abit more, if you want more info check out these sites:Skywolf09 said:
Is... if your avatar France from Scandanavia and the World? I've never seen anyone else that actually reads it! The only thing I don't like about it is that Canada gets relegated as hat. *pouts*Floppertje said:
Um what do you mean?Mid Boss said:
He's probably thinking of space Australia.triggrhappy94 said:
I think hunting is a reason as well. My dad and I occasionally go out to my cousin's farm to go spotlighting to help lower the local rabbit and fox populations.RicoADF said:
I get that. But the point IM trying to make is that the crime rate is so low around her I CAN leave my door unlocked without being broken into. If A rash of home burglaries were to hit the area, I WOULD start locking my door, and there was one time we locked down because someone was on the run from the cops and had gotten in a stand off with them about 10 miles down the road, but on any normal Tuesday, there is no point locking the door. Even then, I still need the gun, because the crows, foxes, and coyotes arent going to care about the fancy pants new locks or the "Brinks Home Security Protection." sign in my front yard.wulf3n said:
I can understand your anger there. Losing something you'd worked hard to acquire to a law change is a pain. The red tape is mostly held up by governments not employing enough people to actually do the work in a timely fashion. Take my state, Queensland, where our premier sacked 14,000 people right before christmas. Now, getting any business with the government done takes a freaking long time unless you have a lobby group.tkioz said:
Extremists on any end of a debate should be closely monitored at all times, be they right wing or left.
As much as I hated Howard for his far right-wing policies and actions, I can understand why he wore it. This did all occur with a few weeks of the Port Arthur Massacre, remember, and emotions were running high across the board, and we do have our fair share of loonies who may have gotten themselves worked up enough to have taken a shot. Insulting, yes, but practical. It's easy to get over being insulted, can you imagine what kind of police-state we'd live in now if'n someone had actually gunned the little bastard down?thaluikhain said:
Ok, first of all, I don't know what the gun control laws are in Somalia... I just know it's lawless shit hole with an over-all murder rate in the high 70's per 100,000... and that's about the only thing Detroit has in common with it. (We came in 2nd in the US, with 63.5 homicides per 100,000) Detroit has no special firearms ordinances, that much I can tell you. We are actually more concerned about kind of dogs you can own. We had/have a real problem with dog fighting and pit bulls. I myself almost hit one several years back running down 8 mile. Damn thing ran straight at my car.Jordi said:
I had someone 'break into' my back yard yesterday afternoon.BOOM headshot65 said:
As I pointed out in another thread, Australia is more urbanized (89%) then the US (82%).xDarc said:
Circular logic fallacy, especially after you use per capita rates to demonstrate another point. Hypocrite much?xDarc said:
Why do you keep shoveling a stat that has no relevance as to how many major metro areas Australia has? An urbanization rate does not translate into how many large, dense, poor, drug-addled cities a country has. So you can keep right on going and I'll be over here ignoring you.TechNoFear said:
Urbanization is a measure of the percentage of the population that lives in metropolitan areas, and so directly correlates to how many major metro areas each country has (per capita).xDarc said:
There is only one factor people need concern themselves when in comes to crime.... People. That is it, just people, nothing else. When people put so much pressure on government to do something about an issue that they have very little control over they try to exert control over something that seems like it would have an effect on the issue. In this case it is crime, people want less of it, so instead of doing something about criminals, the government does something about guns, a tool some criminals use.Caiphus said: