Guns at Townhall Meetings
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Right to bear arms or not, I kinda think that the whole issue here is: who the FUCK brings guns to a democratic debate? Normally I would answer "the taleban, perhaps", but now I'm not so sure.
No matter how much I oppose any legislation I DO NOT bring an assault rifle to a debate. It's insane!
And that has nothing to do with gun laws or the right to have guns. It just has to do with NOT bringing guns to democratic meetings.
Are people really that sore losers that they need to pretend like they are fighting an oppressive regime? Shit, get over yourselves, turn off FAUX News and vote for the other guy in 4 years. That's how democracy works!
DISCLAIMER: This was not aimed at anyone here at the Escapist. It was however aimed at all the people who are going crazy just because they don't agree with the current administration.
While I may not be from the US I know how it is to disagree with the administration. I've been doing it for the past 8 years and will probably keep on doing it until Denmark stops beings a racist scum hole. I won't hold my breath on that one. My point is: voice your opinion in the correct venues and protest when needed. Keep guns away.
No matter how much I oppose any legislation I DO NOT bring an assault rifle to a debate. It's insane!
And that has nothing to do with gun laws or the right to have guns. It just has to do with NOT bringing guns to democratic meetings.
Are people really that sore losers that they need to pretend like they are fighting an oppressive regime? Shit, get over yourselves, turn off FAUX News and vote for the other guy in 4 years. That's how democracy works!
DISCLAIMER: This was not aimed at anyone here at the Escapist. It was however aimed at all the people who are going crazy just because they don't agree with the current administration.
While I may not be from the US I know how it is to disagree with the administration. I've been doing it for the past 8 years and will probably keep on doing it until Denmark stops beings a racist scum hole. I won't hold my breath on that one. My point is: voice your opinion in the correct venues and protest when needed. Keep guns away.
Good Lord, this is getting ridiculous. The Second Amendment is not aimed at defending yourself from thieves, it wasn't made so hunters could hunt, it wasn't made to create a militia, it was made to PREVENT TYRANNY! How is this fact glossed over by you people? Government is inherently corrupt, and our founding fathers gave us the ability to arm ourselves freely so that if one day the United States should become like Great Britian, we as citizens would at least have a fighting chance against oppression and despotism. The people at the town hall meeting (in my city, by the way) believed that the president represented an increasingly corrupt and power-hungry administration, and their message was that they were not going to tolerate the increasing authority of the Federal government. But, of course, no government would EVER try to oppress its citizens, so perhaps the 2nd is, in fact, a relic of a past people who valued freedom.
I agree that the second amendment is just not that important anymore. Some people have let an overactive sense of liberty rob them of their common sense.
9 times out of 10 these will be the people running around saying things like "oh m'god! big gobment gonna take all der liberties away!!!!"
9 times out of 10 these will be the people running around saying things like "oh m'god! big gobment gonna take all der liberties away!!!!"
Yeah i agree with that. It is an image of fear, ignorance, and paranoia that they are fostering. Its like they walk around trying to get a reaction out of people, and when they get one, they want to ***** and moan about how persecuted they are.MusicalFreedom said:
yeah, I have always maintained that the far-right wingnuts are, collectively, martyrs. funny thing with most of them, though, is that individually they don't want to suffer for the cause - they want someone from their cause but not them specifically, so that they can claim that the actions were towards them and that they're in danger.THAC0 said:
I don't know what the phrase is for a wannabe-martyr who doesn't want to suffer for the cause, so I'll stick with "coward" for now. same types of people who organise strikes where and when it's convenient for them rather than being disruptive.
I find it irritating that banning signs attached to wooden sticks, under the rationale that they can be used as weapons, at protests fails to arouse significant attention, but people openly carrying firearms at similar events is considered a second amendment issue.
Where were gun-rights advocates when unarmed kids were being pepper sprayed, tear-gassed, and beaten at last year's RNC in Chicago? If those kids had been carrying guns, they probably would have been shot.
Where were gun-rights advocates when unarmed kids were being pepper sprayed, tear-gassed, and beaten at last year's RNC in Chicago? If those kids had been carrying guns, they probably would have been shot.
Ok calm down for a second and pay closer attention to the story at hand.Mjr.JakeVitaminwater said:
Most states require that if you are going to carry a fire-arm you have to be registered with it and have some kind of license. The states that this occurred in were all states that have an "open arms policy" or something close to that name.
What this policy means is that if you own a firearm you are allowed to carry it with you so long as it is within complete public view. The people in question who had these firearms were members of a gun rights advocacy group, and were wearing it as a form of protest because they feel that the current powers that be want to take away their civil liberties not necessarily their guns. The concept behind bringing the guns was "If you don't use your rights you lose them"
They did nothing illegal and caused no harm other than making things a little awkward for other protesters outside the buildings. While people feel that this detracts security from protecting the president from real threats those in charge of his security have stated that it causes them no problems since those with the guns were not entering the building, were in a public viewing area, and if they were to enter the building would have their firearms confiscated as per protocol.
There is no reason to freak out about this, its a method of protest if you don't like it tough shit. Go on with your life like the rest of us do when we see something that offends us. The assault rifle was a bit to far though, we get it you're exercising your rights, no need to get carried away.
Hahahaha, bring on the Kotick seeking missiles! Sounds Russian to! Even better.HardRockSamurai said:
-Joe
Bravo, I couldn't have said it better mysself.Oolinthu said:
Even though its our right to carry firearms in public, I think doing it to prove a point is dumb, not to mention sending the wrong message to the rest of the world. All it's doing is reinforcing the stereotype already applied to Americans by most of the world. The only way it could be even more stereotypical is if they were actually shooting people while holding Big-Macs.
And I support the NRA!
@Glefistus
Yes, in some cases you DO want officials being killed. Of course, voting and the democartic process is the first and foremost answer to corruption, but there will come a time when there are too many corrupt tyrants in office, and the replacements are just the same.
Yes, in some cases you DO want officials being killed. Of course, voting and the democartic process is the first and foremost answer to corruption, but there will come a time when there are too many corrupt tyrants in office, and the replacements are just the same.
No, it's not hypocrisy. George W. Bush was nothing short of an enemy to the citizens of the United States, and many people opposed him as well. The Republicans who staunchly supported Bush were blinded by their own party preference, yes, I think we're all aware of that. But now that they've seen essentially the same thing but colored blue, I believe they are starting to wake up.Glefistus said:
