Guys: What do you think it means to be a man?

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mandaforever

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GigaHz said:
I would be lying if I said that to be a man comes without real meaning.

Political correctness and gender roles aside, there are characteristics that separate the men from the boys.

The more you fall under the stereotypical example of a man, the more likely you are to receive female attention. Argue this point all you want, biological fact says otherwise. The ideal man is tall, fairly muscular (but not overly so), confident, handsome, intelligent, bold, commanding, and independent. I'm willing to bet that most of you only have a few of these characteristics but some men are fortunate enough to have all.

However, it could also be argued that being a man is more about attitudes and approaches rather than characteristics. For example, Men are expected to be humble and respectful. Things such as sportsmanship, fairness, persistence and admitting fault relate to a man's pride and confidence in themselves. But also that they are willing to extend this attitude to their fellow men, whether or not they possess it. Things like being a liar, cheater, abuser, or manipulator is a sign of a 'weaker' man who is unable to deal with and manage the reality around them without playing dirty.

As for conventional family roles, it is generally expected for the Man to be the provider in a marriage. Though that is starting to change with the increased appearance of dual-income earners. When it comes to raising children, Men are expected to be tough leader types for their sons and attentive, compassionate role models for their daughters. This is to ensure that the boys grow up strong and independent while the women grow up to expect a certain standard of men in their lives (they gain their independence from their own character or maternal influence).

These are the most important areas where being a man is important. Every other aspect of life is completely dependant on who they are as individuals.
Thank you.
 

TPiddy

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Well, being a male means you just have a Y chromosome. Being a "man" means your life is about sacrifice, and being able to make sacrifices for the well being of others, or the group as a whole.
 

Grospoliner

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mandaforever said:
Grospoliner said:
To be a man, you must do what needs to be done when the time comes to do it without hesitation, equivocation, forbearance, or complaint.
^^yes. As a woman, I hesitate and think and get emotional about things when I do them, and that is a great trait that comes in handy. I like it when a man can do things when they need to be done, that to me is also a great trait, and I am very attracted to it because men possess a trait I do not. It's really that simple, and it's not a bad thing.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.
 

FaceFaceFace

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Da Orky Man said:
I really don't see why people think that men and women should be exactly the same. I'd call myself fairly manly. Our brain are wired differently, so anyone forcing the same values is going to get nowhere. I could spend all day looking and messing around with engines, RC stuff, models. I practise martial arts and I'm trained in advanced first aid. I'm responsible, generous, have an odd blend of cynicism and idealism. My sisters are nothing like that.
But I am too am a man, and none of that fits me except for the last sentence, which fits as many girls I know as girls I know that it doesn't fit.

I've always felt that gender generalizations are just that, generalizations. They're probably right more than 50% of the time, but not enough of the time to call them innate differences between the genders.
 

GeneWard

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"What makes A man, Mr. Lebowski? Is it the will to do what is right, whatever the cost?"
"Sure, that and a pair of testicles."
-The Big Lebowski
 

CrashBang

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EightGaugeHippo said:
Cock and Balls my friend...

That is all.
This lad's got it! That doesn't stop me from using the phrase 'man up' from time to time, despite me knowing several women who could probably kick the crap out of me.
 

The Funslinger

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electric_warrior said:
You must have rugged facial hair and smell of rich mahogany, and be able to birth a calf as well as write a sonnet.
This. A real man knows which fork to eat salad with, and which fork with which to stab his enemies.

Seriously though, just don't be cowardly in harsh situations, but don't jump the gun violence-wise either. Don't file women under one "little sensitive weakling" category, but maintain the Gentleman's Standard.
 

GestaltEsper

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Shadow-Phoenix said:
GestaltEsper said:
Shadow-Phoenix said:
I can understand the replies " a beard makes you a mean, having balls and a penis makes you a man" but when someone says "taking responsibility for your own actions", does that mean that if a woman were to take responsibility for her actions would also make her a man from that statement?.

What i think that makes you a man is being caring, a gentleman that shows compassion and empathy and that knows how to fight fair and know when to fight another day.
And if a woman were to exhibit such qualities?
Care to share your end of the bargin?.
I'm not quite sure what you're asking. I just wanted to know what you'd think of a woman ho showed the traits you attribute to a man. If you were asking for my own thoughts, then I direct you to this mangled quote:

Dell Conagher said:
Hey look, buddy. I'm an engineer ? that means I solve problems.
Not problems like 'What is a man?' because that would fall within the purview of your conundrums of philosophy.
I solve practical problems.
 

Zenkem

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Aside from genital alignment, what I see as the measure of success as a man is the amount of sex he can get. Its an unhealthy worldview, but for me it is more about status as a human male than pleasure.

My friends dont see it that way, but I think its because they are getting enough for it to not be an issue.
 

Prof. Monkeypox

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EightGaugeHippo said:
Prof. Monkeypox said:
EightGaugeHippo said:
Cock and Balls my friend...

That is all.
Actually- even that can be ambiguous. What about people born with an XY chromosome, but doesn't form male genitals? What about biological females who think or feel in a stereotypically masculine fashion?

And even putting aside that, is a man less of a man if his genitals get mangled or destroyed in some sort of accident? What if he sustained the accident while doing a bitchin' guitar solo while jumping a gorge on a flaming motorcycle?

The thread poses a legitimate question that can't be easily brushed off.
They way I see it...
What ever genitals you are born with determines your "practical" Gender.
If your cock and balls got mangled off in an accident, you where still born with them, your still male.
If you get a sex change, still male.

But the big thing everyone was missing, was that my post wasn't meant to be taken seriously.
Nah, I didn't miss that, I knew you were at least half kidding.
I mean, not to be a dick or anything, but the reason I felt the need to call it out is because the flippant jokey attitude these jokes bring out detracts from the actually pretty serious question at hand about the nature of biology and socialization.

Again, not to detract from you or anything.
 

Shadow-Phoenix

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GestaltEsper said:
Shadow-Phoenix said:
GestaltEsper said:
Shadow-Phoenix said:
I can understand the replies " a beard makes you a mean, having balls and a penis makes you a man" but when someone says "taking responsibility for your own actions", does that mean that if a woman were to take responsibility for her actions would also make her a man from that statement?.

What i think that makes you a man is being caring, a gentleman that shows compassion and empathy and that knows how to fight fair and know when to fight another day.
And if a woman were to exhibit such qualities?
Care to share your end of the bargin?.
I'm not quite sure what you're asking. I just wanted to know what you'd think of a woman ho showed the traits you attribute to a man. If you were asking for my own thoughts, then I direct you to this mangled quote:

Dell Conagher said:
Hey look, buddy. I'm an engineer ? that means I solve problems.
Not problems like 'What is a man?' because that would fall within the purview of your conundrums of philosophy.
I solve practical problems.
I would think no different if a woman showed such traits but claiming being a man for taking responsibility does not only apply to a man but also a woman and does not define only a man but also that of a woman.
 

Shock and Awe

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To fight for what you believe it. Whether it be on the battlefield, the office, or the courts. If something is going against your convictions and you have any power at all to stop it, it is 'manly' to try and fix it.

BTW: Male genitals and y-chromosomes don't make a man, they make a male.
 

Nopodop

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I say to be a man, you have to be a sexually mature male. If you're not sexually mature, you're a boy.
 

aba1

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Brawndo said:
So what do you think it means to be a man today?
Honestly getting over sexual bias and just being people rather than a bunch of sub categories of human
 

Crissaegrim

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8pJBCCrZl8

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On a side note though, I think the phrase "You know it when you see it." describes masculinity perfectly.
 

Amphoteric

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gamezombieghgh said:
Arfonious said:
The only thing that makes you a man is your penis. And that's it
Don't forget the balls! (also, you would have to be a certain age, no 12 year old is a man in my books)
So if you get testicular cancer and have to have your testicles removed are you a man one day and not the next?
 

surg3n

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N14Y81L4IXE

When you are a man, sometimes you wear stretchy pants in your room, for fun.

I think that we've lost the old stereotypes and have a much more relaxed view. A man is a boy who is too old to be a boy. If someone believes that you have to like sports, or drive, or anything like that to be a man, then they clearly have issues.

In the old days, you were a man once you started earning a wage, and maybe that should be the rule. Once you can pay your own way in this world and have to shave more than once a week, your a man. If you don't pay your own way, then your a douche. Men do like to keep it simple with their labels, straight men at least. Whoever came up with the term Metrosexual should be shot, and Cougar, and all those other rediculous terms that eat away at our individuality. It's not about sexual prowess these days, because these days that subject is a total minefield - I know 2 brothers in their 30's who are still virgins and don't even try to get laid, I've seen it handed on a plate for them, but still nothing... no interest in sex whatsoever but nobody ever claims they aren't men, it's taboo and dangerous to talk about that personal stuff with some people.
 

ArchAngelKira

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Your a man when you stop living under your parents insurance and living on your own being responsible for yourself. Same logic works with girls>women
 

Sandernista

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You must be swift as a coursing river, as strong as a great typhoon.

Did someone already make that reference? >.>