Had video games never been invented, would computer technology be as advanced as it is today?

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I'm doing an assignment for school and I'm trying to find out how big a difference video games have actually had on the computer industry in terms of development. So I was wondering, would the technology surrounding us today in computers be as fast/powerful today if video games had never been invented? Also, just how much of a driving force are video games behind the constant rapid improvement of computer hardware such as GFX cards etc. If you can provide links to support any claims, that would be a lot more useful as I also need references for my assignment.
 

OctalLord

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Welcome to the site!

Anyway, I belive that CGI would have continued it's path into what it is today(See: Uncanny Vally) thanks to things like Star Wars or Lord Of the Rings, or companys like Pixar and Dreamworks.

It's possible that it would be different yes, but I think a similer path would have been taken regardless of video games.

Also: I belive this thread could start with "What if Video games never came back from the crash?" as well. But that's just a random thought.
 

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Yes. War drives all inventions in America (or at least most of the major ones) so the Military would be pimping that stuff out far more then any game company can.
 

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What I mean is that without video games, as an example, would companies such as NVIDIA and ATI strive to create newer, more powerful graphics cards as much as they do now? As I see it, most of the ambition behind this gear is for gamers who want next-gen gear for technologically demanding games such as Crysis (when it was new), and without this motivation they would develop their hardware more slowly without as much need to release their new hardware and best each other.
 

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Well, war sadly does drive alot of tech, on a more civillian (and entertainment) level, without games, it would lag. FYI, its games, not movies that will make 3D tech worthwhile (3DS anyone?)
 

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Maybe I should reword this. Post-war development, would computer technology be as superior today without video games pushing the constant improvement of hardware? As in, if you removed video games from the picture, would it be likely that computer hardware would be around 6 months to a year behind in advancement, even after all technological advancements from war.

Primarily I'm focused on PCs and consoles. (Even though consoles wouldn't exist if not for video games.)
 

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Computer technology? It's certainly debatable. This would be an excellent question to pose to Intel, NVidia, and ATI/AMD - you should seriously give them a call and ask to speak to an engineer who's been at the respective company for the past 10 - 15 years.

In my opinion, I think it would be more secular. Certainly the internet and communications would still exist, but would consumers be brandishing 8-core procs in 2010 and GPUs that can rival the processing speeds of PCs that just went obsolete? No. Consumer grade things would be slow to get on board, especially anything that had to do with graphics.

I think Moore's law would still ring true, but only noticeably in the military. Consumer-wise, production and development would be slower because there wouldn't be enough money financing either. We'd probably have LCDs and Plasmas, but their cost would still be high. Overall I feel as if it would be very niche. Computer would only be used for communication and data processing, not entertainment.

I have more developed thoughts on this, but I am totally burnt out today. Good topic. I'd be curious to see the responses from the aforementioned companies if you decided to contact them.
 

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it would not be as advanced, we wouldnt have video games.

on a more serious note we would probably be under fascist rule because war games would not have drawed people into the army, thus slowing down technological advances.
 

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Video games are probably the primary driver of computer technology. Outside of them, what possible use is there for 4GB of memory, a DSL line, and a quad-core to be owned by an individual?

HTML might exist, but I doubt there would be flash or online video. Computer hardware would be vastly more expensive, due to mass production being considerably less mass; most people own computers for the purpose of gaming, after all.

As for the military...no. It's worth remembering that computerized payroll was introduced to the military by a sergeant who bought himself a PC with his own money. Snipers use iPhones to help with aiming, the Air Force was using PS3s for a server farm. Cheap computing power has allowed the Military to do advanced stuff, the Military didn't develop it. Everything from the Vacuum Tubes to Hyperthreading came from the civilian sector.
 

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Veylon said:
Video games are probably the primary driver of computer technology. Outside of them, what possible use is there for 4GB of memory, a DSL line, and a quad-core to be owned by an individual?
I am sorry, but this is atrociously ignorant. It may hit me more than most because my job has to do with high-performance computing, but...

- Any kind of engineering modeling (vast majority of which is civilian) is heavily dependent on computational power. Huge (thousands of CPUs) clusters go into most nuclear reactor simulations, for instance.
- Data management, and networking in general, was developed partly by DARPA (for military applications), partly by CERN (for data transfer and processing in their experiments), and then by everyone and their mother, really. Businesses were interested in replacing (increasingly more expensive, due to rising costs of benefits) secretaries with networked computers.
- Vast majority of people do NOT own computers for the purpose of gaming. In fact, that's a pretty small minority. Consoles, that's different, obviously. But most personal computers out there (whether personally owned, or owned by companies) are (now) primarily for networking and document editing (i.e., typewriters).

Now, what definitely WOULD be different, is video cards and sound cards. Those are the two components that are primarily for entertainment (gaming). But CPUs, RAM, chipsets, HD speed, networking - none of these things were driven by video games. Computational modeling, data management, document editing and typesetting, computer graphics - these are the things that drove the industry forward. Defense funding certainly played a role as well (initially with pretty much all of computing, since the original purpose was engineering modeling, and later, primarily, with networking), although not as large as they sometimes claim to.
 

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moest said:
What I mean is that without video games, as an example, would companies such as NVIDIA and ATI strive to create newer, more powerful graphics cards as much as they do now? As I see it, most of the ambition behind this gear is for gamers who want next-gen gear for technologically demanding games such as Crysis (when it was new), and without this motivation they would develop their hardware more slowly without as much need to release their new hardware and best each other.
ATI and nVidia - sure. But Intel, IBM, Cray, AMD, Cisco, etc.? No, those guys' business is actually almost insensitive to entertainment.

I really wish we (gamers) were more important, but the reality is, the industry is still quite small, and will probably remain such for most of our lifetimes.
 

Volkov

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Oh, forgot one other huge reason for computer technology's existence and development - computed-controlled manufacturing (aka CNC machining). It was originally a military technology (invented for machining 4th order polynomial-shaped helicopter airfoils), but rather quickly spread into the civilian world. These days, most engineering is unthinkable without not only engineering modeling (mentioned above), but also rapid prototyping, which is almost entirely computed-controlled.

This is a much less important reason though than others I mentioned above.
 

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Saelune said:
Well, war sadly does drive alot of tech, on a more civillian (and entertainment) level, without games, it would lag. FYI, its games, not movies that will make 3D tech worthwhile (3DS anyone?)
As several doctors and medical professionals have attested already, 3D tech is not worth while because it forces the eye to do things it isn't built to do.

What you should be looking forward to are 'holographs'.
 

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As others have noted, CAD programs take up a lot of processing power. In addition to this, 3D rendering and computer based video editing take up a lot of processing power, and the graphics cards for those use a completely different graphics library than gaming cards (FireGL, if I remember correctly.) Consumers may not have had a use for powerful hardware if games were never invented, but then even with games being what they are today, the kind of computers Pixar uses to make their movies are a lot more powerful than anything a gamer is likely to have access to. It's silly to think that the computing power wouldn't be available for the industries that need it.
 

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There's plenty of other applications for advanced hardware. I've worked in IT for a whole bunch of companies including banks and pharmaceuticals and they all had to throw the most expensive hardware around at their data modelling apps. Even got to play with a Silicon Graphics machine back in the day. Also, cryptography has been a great driver for processing power over the years.

Video games are way down the list when it comes to pushing hardware.
 

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Veylon said:
HTML might exist, but I doubt there would be flash or online video.
Lets not forget that gaming has nothing to do with the development of the internet. The driving force behind the internet is the adult entertainment industry, so flash and online video would certainly be here if games never existed. It's a little ignorant to think that streaming video and flash was invented solely for gamers, flash is used to make interactive animations and websites and streaming video is used for a lot more than showing off game trailers.

Other mediums the adult entertainment industry has given us:
VHS
DVD
Blu-ray

These formats of course were developed separate from the industry, but were then backed by the industry and consequently won their respective wars.
 

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Craig Cameron said:
Veylon said:
HTML might exist, but I doubt there would be flash or online video.
Other mediums the adult entertainment industry has given us:
VHS
DVD
Blu-ray

These formats of course were developed separate from the industry, but were then backed by the industry and consequently won their respective wars.
VHS, sure. But are you trying to say that it was the porn industry that lead to the victory of Blu-Ray???
 

Craig Cameron

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Volkov said:
Craig Cameron said:
Other mediums the adult entertainment industry has given us:
VHS
DVD
Blu-ray

These formats of course were developed separate from the industry, but were then backed by the industry and consequently won their respective wars.
VHS, sure. But are you trying to say that it was the porn industry that lead to the victory of Blu-Ray???
Granted I don't have more proof than, there is porn on Blu-ray and Blu-ray won but the fact that Sony would have learned from their Betamax venture leads me to believe that they wouldn't have denied the industry the right to use Blu-ray for porn because that's the reason VHS won. It's up for speculation really, I mean you can argue that there was at least 1 HD-DVD porn film but the fact that a japanese porn company started using Blu-ray for all it's movies would have given it more of an edge on the competition. But I'm babbling on and it's helping no one, least of all our young friend looking for information for a school assignment.

I'd also like to add that the pricing of the PS3 certainly wasn't behind Blu-rays victory.