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I haven't seen the movie, nor do I want to. I appreciated the original Hangover for what it was. Now, let me ask this a question:
Would there be this much outrage if they woke up and it turned out Stu and Alan had anal sex together?
Probably not, because then it's just two idiots who got a little too wasted and did some very stupid things they wouldn't have done sober. This is the ENTIRE plot of both of the films. White-bred males have a little too much fun, get a little too drunk, and make some huge mistakes because of their intoxication.
This intense outrage over the hooker being a transsexual is completely pointless. The joke was done in that way because it was a much more shocking experience for Stu than having just had sex with a regular hooker. Based on Stu as a character, he would be just as shocked to find out it had been Alan he had sex with, because the joke is on him being intoxicated and making a mistake, not on the hooker.
Would there be this much outrage if they woke up and it turned out Stu and Alan had anal sex together?
Probably not, because then it's just two idiots who got a little too wasted and did some very stupid things they wouldn't have done sober. This is the ENTIRE plot of both of the films. White-bred males have a little too much fun, get a little too drunk, and make some huge mistakes because of their intoxication.
This intense outrage over the hooker being a transsexual is completely pointless. The joke was done in that way because it was a much more shocking experience for Stu than having just had sex with a regular hooker. Based on Stu as a character, he would be just as shocked to find out it had been Alan he had sex with, because the joke is on him being intoxicated and making a mistake, not on the hooker.
I think its more along the lines of time. I mean he is also doing The Big Picture, his other series The Game Overthinker (which takes quite a bit of research and pic finding for obvious reasons), and this little segment that takes at the very least an hour or two of thought and writing. Hehe hes gota sleep sometime amirite?Andronicus said:
On topic, i rarely like sequels and this one seems like no exception. I might see it when it goes on DVD but from what I've been hearing its nothing but a remake of the first one. *sigh* what is it with Hollywood and sequels? Books get better and better and games generally improve with time so why the hell do movies always seem to drop the ball when it comes time to expand on the idea?
I'm curious. What other professions do you deem so unworthy as to exile the practitioner from the human race?Mister Linton said:
Surely in your fantasy world of moral absolutes, all sex workers are just ignorant nymphos who just can't control their irrational urges. In the real world, where I and many of these posters live, things aren't so simple:
http://www.avert.org/sex-workers.htm
I admit I got carried away by my hatred of hypocrisy, but I'll make that last remark. You may be accepting of some differences but that's no reason to get complacent and keep double standards. You can still be a racist toward other groups, just as you are disdainful of prostitutes. I'm not the one in a tiny bubble, disagreeing with you is being asinine ? Yeah...Mister Linton said:
Personally the point I was trying to make wasn't about the guy feeling nauseated, but about how the second movie establish a double standard by comparison to the first, where the prostitute is a relatable human being.370999 said:
Beyond that I agree that it's a stupid comedy and thus has no political mean. I never argued that. Just that most people not even giving it a passing though may be somewhat deplorable.
Liandel said:
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No, but accusing me of being in the Klan because I don't stereotype the way people talk, is.incal11 said:
Just because you're disgusted by someone's lifestyle doesn't make you a bigot, it's when you hate them for it.incal11 said:
I am disgusted by any anal sex, a lot of fetishes that exist and a lot of other lifestyles. But I am not intolerant or full of hatred.
I hope everyone commenting on here has seen the film or at least the scene in question and not just basing their judgement on a biased over analyse.
People laugh at others misfortune and that's what the joke was about and yes if you thought you were a straight male who's getting married in the morning and find out they were sodomised by a pre-op hooker then that would be misfortune.
In my eyes the scene wasn't for shock value but more about the inner turmoil it caused the character and his reaction to it (which was realistic).
The scene wasn't particularly funny but that's because I've seen it a thousand times in other films but I did enjoy the film.
Seriously, The scene where he discovers he had sex with a man is the most believable scene in the entire movie. It's not drawn out at all and I think was handled a lot better than I thought it would have been for this sort of movie.
How would you react if you discovered a man had sex with you? He could had turned violent, a little cry was very well handled.
How would you react if you discovered a man had sex with you? He could had turned violent, a little cry was very well handled.
Because one must be straight and white to be compassionate.Mister Linton said:
...or more likely there are causes that Bob believes in that he makes a point about here. To say that one must be part of the minority to be outraged (which you don't say but infer) is ridiculous. Minorities tend to get furthered with majority support.
Ok, now I understand why you were upset about the issue. But even still, while I don't consider myself to be an ignorant sexist gay basher, I would still be just a liiiiiiiiittle bit disturbed if that had happened to me and I found out later, though probably not as much as Stu was.
That was figuratively speaking, and I only replied to your tone in kind.Mister Linton said:
I guess since the issue was so ridiculously blown out of proportion the point I was trying to make kind of got lost. But it's only by comparison with the first movie, where the hooker was a woman and a relatable human being, that the trans of the second movie being treated as a generic jokes feels like a double standard. Independently of the fact that gay sex disgust you or not.Optional Opinion said:
I agree with you Mr. Bob, I agree with you a hundred percent. But comedy, I believe, cannot be done without offending someone. Picking on douchebags for being douchebags still offends the douchebags.
Fair enough. I guess I don't think you actually live in a cave either.incal11 said:
I shall amend my statement thusly:
Accusing me of being a racist because I don't stereotype the way people talk is asinine, especially considering the avitar picture of myself and my wife.
Also, the argument that there was a double standard applied because her character got less development by comparison to Heather Graham in the first, is really rather thin. Plot-wise, her character required less screen time because Stu wasn't married to her.
