there is something called context, besides half life 2 is a game, while DLC stands for something extra added after release of the full game, and while you may argue that technically you can download HL2 and that is content, it would still be wrong because its a product, a game, not extra content.
Half Life 2 is DLC! (a defense for DLC)
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Games released through digital services and content you can add to a game are two different things.
Content means: "things that are held or included in something" in this case, the content in DLC is referring to content that is to be included within a pre-existing game.
It's all a matter of context.
EDIT: also intentionally creating a sensationalist title isn't a great way to start off a discussion (by trying to get a rise out of people you're only really hurting your own argument)
Content means: "things that are held or included in something" in this case, the content in DLC is referring to content that is to be included within a pre-existing game.
It's all a matter of context.
EDIT: also intentionally creating a sensationalist title isn't a great way to start off a discussion (by trying to get a rise out of people you're only really hurting your own argument)
Well, Half-Life 2 Lost Coast is DLC. It's also free DLC. Hats are kinda DLC, but you pay for them. All the Portal 2 DLC (challenges/maps) was free, but the robot clothes cost money.
So, here's what I think.
Missions should be free, same with maps.
Addons that do nothing in-game but look cool, should be paid.
So, game stuff - free
pretty stuff - paid
So, here's what I think.
Missions should be free, same with maps.
Addons that do nothing in-game but look cool, should be paid.
So, game stuff - free
pretty stuff - paid
You're arguing semantics. It's true that Half-Life 2 is downloadable content- in that it is content that you can download- but that's not the commonly accepted definition of DLC. DLC is what expansion packs were years ago- except now, many developers are using them less as expansion packs and more as "You want the whole story? Pay us an extra $10."
By that definition, every game which can be bought through digital distribution is DLC.
The problem is, games aren't content, they're games.
A game contains content, but it itself isn't content. Content makes up the game, but it isn't the game. It's like saying a fruit basket is fruit because it contains fruit.
DLC without it's game is useless...but a game isn't useless without the DLC (in most reasonable cases). Therefore they're not the same thing.
The problem is, games aren't content, they're games.
A game contains content, but it itself isn't content. Content makes up the game, but it isn't the game. It's like saying a fruit basket is fruit because it contains fruit.
DLC without it's game is useless...but a game isn't useless without the DLC (in most reasonable cases). Therefore they're not the same thing.
Welcome to the English language, where right is right, sun is son, and enough has way too many letters.
Just like calling a happy person gay will get you punched, calling Half Life 2 DLC ignores the common preconceptions most have placed on the term. Also see RPGs, puzzle games, and strategy games to further the complex and weird system we have with words.
Just like calling a happy person gay will get you punched, calling Half Life 2 DLC ignores the common preconceptions most have placed on the term. Also see RPGs, puzzle games, and strategy games to further the complex and weird system we have with words.
I'm sorry, but your point is stupid. Under that token any game I buy from digital distributors is DLC because they are downloaded. Or that DLC for games like Fallout 3 or GTAIV isn't because it's also available on disc. You are trying to turn the DLC dicussion into semantics, which is a way to evade it entirely. From the consumers' perspective it's much better to say that DLC is a misnomer and should be called 'separate content' or something to that effect.
Um... if you download a full game that stands on its own from an online distributor then that's not DLC. HL2 + EP 1 & 2 included. True, they pick up directly from the base game but they still run on their own.
Map packs, skins, song packs, campaign extentions, etc. requiring the base game engine pre-installed more or less counts as DLC/add-on material.
Map packs, skins, song packs, campaign extentions, etc. requiring the base game engine pre-installed more or less counts as DLC/add-on material.
Here's the problem. Downloadable Content is a term coined for content that is created for the purpose of being an add-on to a full game. Calling Half-Life 2 DLC is not the proper use for this term, however "technically" valid that argument may be.ToastiestZombie said:
Half Life 2 is downloadable content, because it is content that is downloaded.
A person who knows addition is a computer because they can compute.
Seeing how long you can juggle DVDs is a video game, because you're playing a game with videos.
A cockroach is an automobile, because it moves by itself.
Sticking your hand in a running lawnmower is another form of digital distribution.
Ignoring the common usage of a term in favor of its literal meaning screws up the way languages work. Do it if you want, but if one particular meaning is already predominant over your more literal one, you're effectively talking gibberish.
A person who knows addition is a computer because they can compute.
Seeing how long you can juggle DVDs is a video game, because you're playing a game with videos.
A cockroach is an automobile, because it moves by itself.
Sticking your hand in a running lawnmower is another form of digital distribution.
Ignoring the common usage of a term in favor of its literal meaning screws up the way languages work. Do it if you want, but if one particular meaning is already predominant over your more literal one, you're effectively talking gibberish.