Halo 3

[Keyvias]

I am greatly confused by the success that halo 3 has had. I mean I enjoy the game and I've spent time playing though both campaign and at least 10 hours of multiplayer. I am looking for a fanboy because I've heard everyone argue against the game. A lot of those complaints I agree with, but that's besides the point.
Can someone come here and rant for a paragraph or two on halo 3 so I can try to understand what you see in it

 

[twilight_dweller]

I hate Halo 3. Although I will acknowledge it is not a bad FPS. It is just severely over hyped, and to be honest it is a generic FPS game.

And Master Chief isn't any great shakes either.

 

[Hoax]

I would also like to know what people see in Halo, honestly neither the game-play or story is anything new. Shoot shit...Wow... Aliens are invading earth? So what?

Although I'll admit, the Multi-player isn't all that bad, it's just too much "Spawn-Kill-Die-Repeat" for me.

 

[shadow skill]

We already have a Halo 3 thread.

 

[Easykill]

Well... I dont play too much but its fun, I like the controls, I liked the story enough to buy all the books that came out for it, it looks good visually(not realistic brown but not cartoonishly bright either), and the multiplayer never gets boring.

 

[Iceman23]

Well sense I've gone the extra mile over the last six or seven years to dig through the story, I fully understand whats going on. Its a lot more than just "oh no aliens are on Earth, kill them!" its also about humanity's survival against a superior enemy (The Covenant), an ancient race of beings (the Forerunners) that committed mass suicide in an attempt to stop an evil parasite (the Flood) from consuming them all.

Then there is the story behind the Master Chief himself, a kid who was kidnapped at the age of six to be trained and augmented into a super soldier, and eventually became the last symbol of hope for humanity in their 27 year long war against The Covenant.

So in short, the story is what I've always loved most about Halo, I've always loved the multiplayer too, but I'll admit that its not the best out there.

Also my apologizes If my grammar comes off as a little bad, didn't get much sleep last night, what with preparing for Christmas day and all.

 

[Num43]

I have no problem with it except this part really:

It has a 9.5 score on gamespot with this tag: "Halo 3 builds upon the concepts of Halo 2 in ways that you'd expect, but there are also new modes and options that send the series in exciting new directions."
Meaning its just Halo 2 with some new levels a new gun and better graphics. explain to me why does a game get an auto score of "i want to take it to bed with me" When its nothing special?



*Also I know gamespot can go search for someone to pleasure them but too lazy to find somewhere else


**And really a 9.5? based on this Half life gets a 17.4

 

[zherkezi]

Well the answer is that it's a competent shooter, the only thing truly remarkable is the hype and its the sequel to some of the greatest games ever made. Bungie has one of the worlds largest fanbasses, if large magazines started giving poor reviews to some peoples favorite franchises, they would loose customers: essentially, they sell out. If a game is trully bad, then they will throw the game in the mud: why I still subscribe to them, but halo 3, mass effect, COD 4 all got ten. While I have to admit, each one is a good game, its not anywhere as good as lesser hyped games. For example Fable is one of the best game I have ever played, yet they gave a one page review and a 8.9. Then Halo 2 comes out: the game is fun and all, but it has major problems, many of the game mechanics are flawed, everything is unpolsihed, glitches everywhere, lesser maps and gameplay: gets the highest score at the time. They hide behind all these flaws by saying "no game is perfect, every game has its flaws", and that is true, but you shouldnt ignore them if they are major issues. For example, one of the major (and few) improvements from halo 2 was the user frendliness: making gametypes in halo 1 was a *****. Like the pistol which offered great ballance (wow! now you arent automaticly dead when the other team gets both snipers or spawn next to someone with the rockets! SNIPPING WHORE!), they come across greatness and then decide to throw it out, reducing the user frendliness from the 90's to the negatives. Think about what history would be like if smart people used this attitude: Christopher Columbus: WOW! new continents, fertile land! rich mountains! thick forests! Wow! this land may be the future of the progressing world! But now that we've found it, lets do something completely different, lets say, circle the globe, and dont think back, tell anyone about it, or make any further attention or investment on this." Good thing Columbus didnt work for bungie.

To date, the most reliable reviewer i know of is yahtzee. I know, he does it in a humerous fashion, but he is nearly 100% right on the money each time. As of now the underdog developers are the best i thinks. Bethesda, Gearbox, Bioware. I find that these companies nearly always live up to their hype. My personal favorite is Gearbox, because companies like bungie will listen to their impatient eight year old fans and shave say, 3 months off of development and poslishing time, knowing they'll sell record numbers anyways. Gearbox is different, they need 3 or 4 extra months they'll take it, and tell the eight year olds to fuck off.


all in all, halo 3 is one of those above average games. If it was the first released, it would have gotten average sales.

 

[RentCavalier]

Hmmm, I can't really agree that Yahtzee's review is super grand. While I agree with it, he purposefully leaves out the Multiplayer, which is why people play the game anyway.

Though, then again, the Multiplayer is really just like the game, except the Elites are smarter, so...hmmm...

 

[Larenxis]

I don't know anyone who's a real fanboy of Halo 3. It's more the iconic quality of Halo that makes it appear that way. Sure, we replaced the answers on a few Trivial Pursuit cards with 'Master Chief', but if the orange box had been coming out that week, we probably would've written 'Gordon Freeman'. Personally, I haven't played enough of the game to form an opinion.

 

[purifiedinfire]

I would also like to know what people see in Halo, honestly neither the game-play or story is anything new. Shoot shit...Wow... Aliens are invading earth? So what?

Although I'll admit, the Multi-player isn't all that bad, it's just too much "Spawn-Kill-Die-Repeat" for me.

thats funny seeing as the aliens werent invading earth, they were trying to activate the rings. i thought the story was very well done for a shooter, and along with the books it offered metaphorical critisism of fanatic religions.

i do agree about the "shoot shit" part, although that doesnt make it any less fun. the whole point of the multiplayer, for me at least, is that its a no-brainer, and you can pick it up any time and play just to have fun. strategy isnt really nescassary. i consider it more of a social game, like mario party, but violent. good alone, great with friends.

 

[PurpleRain]

The only good thing about Halo was the music. The story was meh and all games at the moment have super duper graphics so they don't really matter. I also hate the way he jumps! The jumping in that game feels so akward.

 

[Kermi]

I don't get why people pick on Halo for being a generic shooter.

Newsflash: SO IS EVERY OTHER SHOOTER EVER FUCKING MADE.

You get into a shooter because you like the story, the graphics, or the gimmicks. We like Bioshock for the story, the percieved choices, and we thought the plasmids would be neat. We played Resistance because the story looked interesting and it was the only shooter on the PS3's launch lineup. We played Gears of War because the gameplay is ten shades of awesome, and also, chainsaw bayonets.

We played Halo 3 because it has a huge online following meaning we'll get years of guaranteed, varied multiplayer. It has a decent sci-fi story (funny how people who criticise it's stupidity and simplicity don't actually know what the story is, right Hoax?) and the gameplay is solidly built and well balanced. These are Halo's attributes - like them or leave them.

The main reason people rip on it is because it's in the spotlight and gets noticed by more people - also, it's trendy to tear shreds off things that people like, in the same way it's cool to be into stuff no-one has ever heard of.

That's why Halo is at the same time the most popular and most vilified FPS of our time.

 

[shadow skill]

Do the other generic shooters get the hype that Halo 3 did? Oh and newsflash you were actually listing things that made those other games standout in some respect and therefore not be generic, so while you are busy shouting you contradict yourself in the next breath....real nice.

 

[The Negotiator]

1. You need to know the whole story.
2. I hate people making up crap about games just to make them look better.
3. Halo is a great FPS and deserves a 9.5 rating for its dramatic ending.
4. No, I will not tell you the ending!
5. Why the heck are you people trying to compare a action/si-fi shooter to a mystery/horror
type shooter like Bio-shock? Is it because you can "see into the future" that shows
Bio-shock "beating" Halo 3 because its better in "real time interaction" with the under-
water world that you end up in.
6. Some people hate other people refering to graphics on every forum so **** you for
replying.
7. Everyone is so hung up on X-box live they fink the whole story sucks, and I quote

!!!"WHY"!!!

 

[Projekt Spartan]

I am sort of a Halo fanboy (see my name) and i have to say that the story is why i like the game so much. I have read all of the books and other media. Multiplayer is fun, altough it would be nice if every player on XBL wasn't a complete asshole. I think that they were geniouses to bring the idea of recording every single match to watch and take screenshots from. The sharing system for the files is nice too. I also liked how they brought level editing to a console game.

 

[Hoax]

It has a decent sci-fi story (funny how people who criticise it's stupidity and simplicity don't actually know what the story is, right Hoax?) and the gameplay is solidly built and well balanced. These are Halo's attributes - like them or leave them.

For your information, I do know the story of Halo, not the full story mind you, just the story from the games, buying books should not be manditory in order to fully enjoy a game therefore I refuse to dish out the extra cash. Anyhoo, Halo's story is below average, it's better than the average FPS but it struck me as far too bland, oh it wasn't all that bad back in Halo: Combat Evolved but it felt as if they were making it up as they go along.

 

[Kermi]

Do the other generic shooters get the hype that Halo 3 did? Oh and newsflash you were actually listing things that made those other games standout in some respect and therefore not be generic, so while you are busy shouting you contradict yourself in the next breath....real nice.

My god, were you born dense or accomplish it through a lifetime of practice? Every shooter follows the same principle. First Person Shooters are going to be very samey from game to game by their very definition, so people bitching about Halo being a generic shooter might as well complain because their new hat is doing a lousy job of keeping their balls warm.
All they have to make them different is the story behind them, what they look like, and their assorted gimmickry. This provides different gameplay experiences and different levels of enjoyment for different people.

You can't call one game generic without calling them ALL generic. If Halo is 'generic' in that you walk around, point a gun and kill things, then so are Killzone 2, Resistance, Gears of War, System Shock, Bioshock, Duke Nukem 3D, Deus Ex, and Doom.

Of course these games are different - story, gimmicks, gamepaly idiosyncracies make them so. But basic elements of gameplay remain constant.

 

[Kermi]

For your information, I do know the story of Halo, not the full story mind you, just the story from the games, buying books should not be manditory in order to fully enjoy a game therefore I refuse to dish out the extra cash. Anyhoo, Halo's story is below average, it's better than the average FPS but it struck me as far too bland, oh it wasn't all that bad back in Halo: Combat Evolved but it felt as if they were making it up as they go along.

I haven't read the books either, but having actually played the game, I can tell you it's a little more complicated than "aliens are invading the earth". Not that there's anything wrong with "aliens are invading the earth", it's worked just fine in the past. But Halo 3 is a cylindrical peg and you're trying to jam it in the star-shaped hole.