Halo 4 gets a 2/10...

[perkl]

Wait wait wait, that's how a five star system works? What happens if a game is bad?

You switch to percentage system and give it 85%.

 

[sumanoskae]

I'm not the biggest Halo fan, but...

"The story is slow, sentimental and too serious"

Really? So the biggest problem with the story is that, what, it exists?

"Emotions are for women and FAGS!"

 

[Jfswift]

A 2/10 sounds very unreasonable. It means the game had serious design flaws and poor graphics, poor story flow, contradictory to the complaint of "too long a story"). This sounds like a troll or irritated fanboy.

 

[Panorama]

Don't think you can translate a 1-5 star system to a 0-10 score system.

A star system generally works like this:
1 Star: Okay
2 Stars: Good
3 Stars: Great
4 Stars: Amazing
5 Stars: Perfect

It doesn't have any truly negative values like a 0-10 score system, because it doesn't work like that. Stars are awarded for things done very well, 1 star means there's something that there's game's doing well but otherwise nothing noteworthy.

I'm well aware that Metacritic does try to translate this. But that's Metacritic's fault. Not this reviewer's fault.

The reviewer rates it 1 star, which is not 2/10.

Wait wait wait, that's how a five star system works? What happens if a game is bad?

Firstly this is a great point hadn't seen it until you said it.

Don't think you can translate a 1-5 star system to a 0-10 score system.

A star system generally works like this:
1 Star: Okay
2 Stars: Good
3 Stars: Great
4 Stars: Amazing
5 Stars: Perfect

It doesn't have any truly negative values like a 0-10 score system, because it doesn't work like that. Stars are awarded for things done very well, 1 star means there's something that there's game's doing well but otherwise nothing noteworthy.

I'm well aware that Metacritic does try to translate this. But that's Metacritic's fault. Not this reviewer's fault.

The reviewer rates it 1 star, which is not 2/10.

You really hit the nail on the head, metacritic made this score a two out of ten not the reviewer.

Ok so 1 star is not 2/10 however it is easy to see how people make this assumption isn't it? and also how do you go about changing this system into a score if you are metacritic. You have to make it a numerical figure, so simply do total stars divided by 100 and then times it by the number of stars, it seems fairly reasonable to me.

 

[Woodsey]

Yahtzee is paid to review extremely harshly but at least he doesn't score and lower the metacritic average.

Perhaps we're all getting confused about the roles here: it is not the reviewer's job to give even a hint of a shit about what the Metacritic average is, nor the effect their review has on it.

 

[DustyDrB]

it is not the reviewer's job to give even a hint of a shit about what the Metacritic average is, nor the effect their review has on it.

Frame this quote, send it to every reviewer and every gamer who cares far too much about Metacritic.
You can even put a "- Woodsey, 2012" on it.

 

[xshadowscreamx]

no game deserves 2/10.. well im sure is a few but not this one.

Why the hell shouldn't bad games get this score? We have spoiled ourselves to the point that people think a 7/10 is somehow a bad score. Even the OP implies the latter in the post. It's fucking ridiculous. Yes, games deserve 2/10's, 1/10's, and 0/10's. We have gotten to the point where 9's and 10's mean nothing because we hand them out so often.

A 5/10 should be considered an "average" game, and "average" seems to be a pretty apt word for Halo 4 from what I've seen so far.

im sorry, i think i was high on happiness that day playing halo 4.. theirs numerous games deserve 2/10. like the ps2 game ''25 to life''.. but not this game, theirs a lot of effort and love put in this game. the opening cut scene is the best cut scene i have scene in halo. the game may not deserve 10 but it also does not deserve a 2. thats just trolling.

 

[xshadowscreamx]

no game deserves 2/10.. well im sure is a few but not this one.

What about Amy? Or Superman 64?

yes, those are 2/10 games... i was high on happiness that day. i forgot about a lot of actually crappy games.

 

[xshadowscreamx]

no game deserves 2/10.. well im sure is a few but not this one.

Well what is the point of having a 10 out of 10 system then?

This is why people think 8/10 is a bad score, this is why people ignore 7/10 games. We need to be free of this narrow mindset of thinking that low scores only belong to broken games. Tom Chick critiques games on his basis and while I usually disagree with him I'm glad he does because he is the only person in gaming 'journalism' that has the balls to provide unique view on gaming. You have to understand this isn't IGN reviewing where they critique a product, Chick approaches gaming like a film critic approaches film. He focuses on his experiences with gameplay and story rather than dry technical aspects.

i fully agree, lets ignore numbers and focus on the words.

 

[charge52]

no game deserves 2/10.. well im sure is a few but not this one.

Why the hell shouldn't bad games get this score? We have spoiled ourselves to the point that people think a 7/10 is somehow a bad score. Even the OP implies the latter in the post. It's fucking ridiculous. Yes, games deserve 2/10's, 1/10's, and 0/10's. We have gotten to the point where 9's and 10's mean nothing because we hand them out so often.

A 5/10 should be considered an "average" game, and "average" seems to be a pretty apt word for Halo 4 from what I've seen so far.

im sorry, i think i was high on happiness that day playing halo 4.. theirs numerous games deserve 2/10. like the ps2 game ''25 to life''.. but not this game, theirs a lot of effort and love put in this game. the opening cut scene is the best cut scene i have scene in halo. the game may not deserve 10 but it also does not deserve a 2. thats just trolling.

The amount of effort and/or love put in the game is not what a games score is determined by, else Duke Nukem Forever would have been a perfect 10. It's not trolling, it's his opinion, and he gave it a 1 out of 5, there is a difference.

 

[xshadowscreamx]

no game deserves 2/10.. well im sure is a few but not this one.

Why the hell shouldn't bad games get this score? We have spoiled ourselves to the point that people think a 7/10 is somehow a bad score. Even the OP implies the latter in the post. It's fucking ridiculous. Yes, games deserve 2/10's, 1/10's, and 0/10's. We have gotten to the point where 9's and 10's mean nothing because we hand them out so often.

A 5/10 should be considered an "average" game, and "average" seems to be a pretty apt word for Halo 4 from what I've seen so far.

im sorry, i think i was high on happiness that day playing halo 4.. theirs numerous games deserve 2/10. like the ps2 game ''25 to life''.. but not this game, theirs a lot of effort and love put in this game. the opening cut scene is the best cut scene i have scene in halo. the game may not deserve 10 but it also does not deserve a 2. thats just trolling.

The amount of effort and/or love put in the game is not what a games score is determined by, else Duke Nukem Forever would have been a perfect 10. It's not trolling, it's his opinion, and he gave it a 1 out of 5, there is a difference.

my life bar is depleted, your a victorious. i totally forgot about duke nukem forever, the game that ''defied'' all expectations.

 

[Notsomuch]

A 2/10 score really stands out on Metacritic so my review will get more traffic (oh wait, that's my assumption not his written reasoning)

It worked because you posted about it?

 

[RedDeadFred]

A 2/10 score really stands out on Metacritic so my review will get more traffic (oh wait, that's my assumption not his written reasoning)

It worked because you posted about it?

True but it worked before that by simply getting on Metacritic. Also, apparently this guy has been around for a long time and doesn't really need the extra publicity (at least that's what a couple of people have told me) so he really might just dislike the game that much.

 

[sunsetspawn]

So, somebody's full of shit. The gameplay certainly looks very solid. I am a bit annoyed at the injection of Cortana's PMS melodrama.

ALSO, the composer is different, and therefore the main theme is totally new AND all of the atmosphere of the game has been a bit altered.


I actually really disliked this at first because NOT WHAT I'M USED TO. But it's growing on me. I haven't actually played the game yet, and when dealing with any type of scoring you need to actually experience the entire product.

The title screen actually follows the Halo formula. Vocal music (female), though with a more middle eastern scale as opposed to 7 tone western gregorian chant. After that a little moody sci fi stuff (VERY DIFFERENT WHAT WITH OSCILLATING NOISE AND STAR TREK HORNS), then Halo piano chords played at 3:18.

Still unsure

 

[StylinBones]

Plays pretty dang good to me, but I'm no connoisseur, I just like to play shooters and RPGs and have a good time.

 

[Skops]

I've always had a distaste for Halo, much like I have a distaste for Call of Duty and Tekken.. All for basically the same reason: Refusal to evolve.

Regardless how little changes from game to game, and how much I dislike the formula, and how I vow to not spend another dollar until a change is made... I will never deny that they are objectively 'good' games. You don't make gigantic franchises like this by making bad games. And I doubt Halo 4 is a bad game.

 

[malestrithe]

A 2/10 score really stands out on Metacritic so my review will get more traffic (oh wait, that's my assumption not his written reasoning)

Anyway, what do my fellow Escapists think about the review. I myself got a bit of a laugh out of it but a lot of the things he was criticizing I don't personally think are all that bad. I'm not going to get the game anyway because I've only ever really cared about the campaigns in Halo games but I'll definitely rent it.

All I see is that someone really hates the game. That's pretty much it.

Grand scheme of things, I think one opinion does not matter. What should matter more is the overall score. In order to get an almost 90 score, you are going to need more positive votes than negative ones.

What is more surprising is that the popular opinion is dead even. Everyone that loves it, there's another that hates it. Either that's because some people are dirty hipsters who only hate the game ironically or they are getting tired of samey games.

 

[disgruntledgamer]

Trolls will be trolls a 2/10 is a game that is unplayable and completely broken. Halo 4 may not be that great but it's none of these.

 

[RedDeadFred]

A 2/10 score really stands out on Metacritic so my review will get more traffic (oh wait, that's my assumption not his written reasoning)

Anyway, what do my fellow Escapists think about the review. I myself got a bit of a laugh out of it but a lot of the things he was criticizing I don't personally think are all that bad. I'm not going to get the game anyway because I've only ever really cared about the campaigns in Halo games but I'll definitely rent it.

All I see is that someone really hates the game. That's pretty much it.

Grand scheme of things, I think one opinion does not matter. What should matter more is the overall score. In order to get an almost 90 score, you are going to need more positive votes than negative ones.

What is more surprising is that the popular opinion is dead even. Everyone that loves it, there's another that hates it. Either that's because some people are dirty hipsters who only hate the game ironically or they are getting tired of samey games.

Judging from the user reviews, it's probably the latter. Sure there's probably a few people just trolling but the majority of them seem genuinely disappointed.

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

Trolls will be trolls a 2/10 is a game that is unplayable and completely broken. Halo 4 may not be that great but it's none of these.

What? 2 is unplayable? Whats worse than that? If 2 is totally broken then what can 1 and 0 mean. I HATE the 3 point scale we have now where it works like this:

0 - Joke
1 - Joke
2 - Joke
3 - Joke
4 - Joke
5 - Terrible
6 - Bad
7 - Average
8 - Good
9 - Very good
10 - Excellent

When instead it should be.

0 - Broken and totally unplayable.
1 - Extremely bad
2 - Pretty damn bad
3 - Bad
4 - Quite bad
5 - Average
6 - Good
7 - Quite good
8 - Pretty damn good
9 - Extremely good
10 - Almost perfect

If halo 4 is pretty damn bad so be it. I doubt it is though. Id say it merits a 4 at worst.