Halo 4 Possible Enemies (Spoilers)

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Korten12

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Here is what I think could be what we fight in Halo 4.

The Anicent Evil

a)The chance of the Anicent Evil being possibly Anicent Humans who had been outside the galaxy and weren't effected by the Human-Forerunner War that lead to the human's demise. There are some possbilites to this theory from Halo: Annversary.


In the Termianl, it showed that the ship landed, 40,000 years BEFORE the start of the Human-Covenant War, before any Convenant Race or Huamn Race were space-faring. It is odd that the ships atmosphere inside was exactly like the one on the Halo Ring which is a lot like Earth's.


This is a scraped cutscene from Halo 4, which was confirmed by 343. Despite it being scraped, there maybe a hint of what is to be expected in Halo 4. Such as the purple man in the video, he is attacking other humans and has a strange ability which is more advanced then the current technology each sides poses. Which humans during the time of the forerunners were just as advanced before the Human-Forerunner war.

b)The Flood, I doubt it, there is still a chance, but I really doubt that they would hype up an Ancient Evil when it's the evil we fought already.

c)The precursors - It has been hinted at that they created the flood, while I doubt we would fight actual precursors considering the last one alive was before the firing of the Halo Rings, it is possible they created another foe?

ONI

While we will fight the Anicnet Evil, I could see ONI being enemies too. They're getting power way to quickly and at a dangerous rate and seem to want to control everything. Already shown that they seem to be getting more and more power then the UNSC. In Halo: Glasslands they have began to trick the Sangheli into a civil war and then once they're too weak, to go in and finish them off.

Now they also control a Halo Ring (Installation 03) and a Shield World, if they can figure out how to use that technology from the Forerunners, they could possibly wipe out all races not Human and maintain complete and utter control over the whole galaxy.

Helped by the fact that they now have Spartan IV's already in the works (IV is similar to Project ORION, the first Spartans, which was a failure) but also have some already done and in service. They could potentially be the main fighting force of ONI.

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So what do you guys think?
 

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I dont think there was ever a human-forerunner war, since after the activation of the rings the Forerunners were wiped out. Source or it didnt happen.
 

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There was a human-forerunner war?

I thought humans were basically cavemen at the time that the forerunners saved their ass from the flood and made earth the gateway to the ark.
 

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saucecode said:
I dont think there was ever a human-forerunner war, since after the activation of the rings the Forerunners were wiped out. Source or it didnt happen.
I assume he meant the flood. If not, that's bullshit. Humans were neanderthals at the time of the activation of the rings.

I think I like the idea of humans that developed and evolved away from the rest of us, and I would be surprised if the flood didn't make ANY appearance. Although that depends on what the new forerunner structure is actually designed for; the rings were made to study the flood, but we don't know what this new thing does. I also like the idea of learning about the precursors.
 

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ultrachicken said:
saucecode said:
I dont think there was ever a human-forerunner war, since after the activation of the rings the Forerunners were wiped out. Source or it didnt happen.
I assume he meant the flood. If not, that's bullshit. Humans were neanderthals at the time of the activation of the rings.

I think I like the idea of humans that developed and evolved away from the rest of us, and I would be surprised if the flood didn't make ANY appearance. Although that depends on what the new forerunner structure is actually designed for; the rings were made to study the flood, but we don't know what this new thing does. I also like the idea of learning about the precursors.
actually now that i think of it, there was the sentinels and monitors that the forerunners made. If so, OP should have called it Battle for Installation 04 or something like that.
 

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I've interpreted a lot of this to imply that the forerunner were human. This is something none of the stuff has either directly, explicitly confirmed or denied, but a lot of crap Guilty Spark says (especially if you listen to him in The Library) implies it very heavily, not to mention the focus on humanity a lot of forerunner technology has. If I remember correctly, according to the short in Halo: Legends, the Forerunner saved samples of all species so they could be planted and grow again; I've interpreted all this to mean that the Forerunners were just humans way back when, and today's humans are the result of samples saved by the Forerunner to repopulate the world after the rings. So I'm not sure what's up with the idea of a Human-Forerunner war.

I agree that we probably won't see The Flood again, not in a prominent role at least. But as for ONI, as much as that might make sense, as far as I'm aware the Master Chief is no longer anywhere near civilized space. Though if that's the case, the random bit of potential foreshadowing in the cryo chamber in Anniversary may or may not really mean anything...

I agree we will likely have a new enemy, and it will probably be connected to the Forerunners in some way. Beyond that... I look forward to finding out.
 

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Thaius said:
I've interpreted a lot of this to imply that the forerunner were human. This is something none of the stuff has either directly, explicitly confirmed or denied, but a lot of crap Guilty Spark says (especially if you listen to him in The Library) implies it very heavily, not to mention the focus on humanity a lot of forerunner technology has. If I remember correctly, according to the short in Halo: Legends, the Forerunner saved samples of all species so they could be planted and grow again; I've interpreted all this to mean that the Forerunners were just humans way back when, and today's humans are the result of samples saved by the Forerunner to repopulate the world after the rings. So I'm not sure what's up with the idea of a Human-Forerunner war.

I agree that we probably won't see The Flood again, not in a prominent role at least. But as for ONI, as much as that might make sense, as far as I'm aware the Master Chief is no longer anywhere near civilized space. Though if that's the case, the random bit of potential foreshadowing in the cryo chamber in Anniversary may or may not really mean anything...

I agree we will likely have a new enemy, and it will probably be connected to the Forerunners in some way. Beyond that... I look forward to finding out.
Let's not forget what 343 Guilty Spark said to Master Chief after frying Sargent Johnson.

"You are Forerunner, but this ring... is mine."
 

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Extended Universe stuff from the books says there is a Human-Forerunner war that reduced humanity back to pre-spacefaring times in years long past.
 

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I thought that one of the Halo's hinted that humanity (or at least the Spartans) were the successors to the forerunners? Or was that just in a metaphorical sense?
 

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The Covenant isn't even dead yet. Don't forget that.

Even with the end of Halo 3, the Covenant was merely weakened, not destroyed.
 

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Grunt_Man11 said:
Thaius said:
I've interpreted a lot of this to imply that the forerunner were human. This is something none of the stuff has either directly, explicitly confirmed or denied, but a lot of crap Guilty Spark says (especially if you listen to him in The Library) implies it very heavily, not to mention the focus on humanity a lot of forerunner technology has. If I remember correctly, according to the short in Halo: Legends, the Forerunner saved samples of all species so they could be planted and grow again; I've interpreted all this to mean that the Forerunners were just humans way back when, and today's humans are the result of samples saved by the Forerunner to repopulate the world after the rings. So I'm not sure what's up with the idea of a Human-Forerunner war.

I agree that we probably won't see The Flood again, not in a prominent role at least. But as for ONI, as much as that might make sense, as far as I'm aware the Master Chief is no longer anywhere near civilized space. Though if that's the case, the random bit of potential foreshadowing in the cryo chamber in Anniversary may or may not really mean anything...

I agree we will likely have a new enemy, and it will probably be connected to the Forerunners in some way. Beyond that... I look forward to finding out.
Let's not forget what 343 Guilty Spark said to Master Chief after frying Sargent Johnson.

"You are Forerunner, but this ring... is mine."
forerunners are related to humans
or highly evolved humans
forerunners have 3 stages
first is is the baby stage
then is the manuplar which strongly resebles a human except hairy like a monkey
then there is the fully evolved or forerunner which is much bigger and stronger then manuplars(able to crush a melon in one hand)
it's possible that the spartans have been mistaken by sparky
as a plus all foreunners are outfitted with a special suit (power armour) fitted with an ancilla or AI could be that cheif has evolved to become forerunner or mabye sparky was just mistaken who knows
know if you'll excuse me i'm going to make a countdown clock to halo 4
O one more thing
possibility that hamunue (a special kind of pygmy human) could be the enemie for the next halo because while they are smaller they are also smarter (sorta like gnomes in wow)
 

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Major spoilers from the novel Halo: Cryptum
http://www.halopedian.com/Halo:_Cryptum
http://www.halopedian.com/Human-Forerunner_War
Here's the short(ish) version, but I urge anyone interested to close this page and find the book. According to the novel, long before the Forerunners fired the array, humanity was a space-faring race, and part of some kind of galactic civilisation overseen by the Forerunners. They even had an alliance with the San'Shyuum (Prophets). Humans were the first to encounter the Flood, and even managed to cure it, but at a heavy cost. To recoup their losses, humanity began conquering other planets for resources and space. In response to this aggression, the Forerunners stepped in and waged the war that this thread has centred on. The humans were good, like a serious threat to the Forerunners good, but they still got their asses kicked on a galactic scale. So few were left that they could be confined to Earth (which if I remember correctly may not have even been their home-world), and because of the utter destruction of their technology and civilisation, and some kind of genetic tampering by the Forerunners, humanity regressed to caveman level. This novel straight up busts the 'humans are forerunners' theory, instead stating that the forerunner chose humanity to carry the 'Mantle' after the firing, what exactly the mantle is and why humanity was chosen still remaining unanswered.

TL;DR: Humans aren't Forerunners, and they did have wars with both the Forerunners and the Flood prior to the firing of the array.
 

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Wow, I really need to brush up on my extended universe knowledge. I'm a long time fan of the series but it's been ages since I looked into any of this stuff and I barely understood half of what you just wrote.
 

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NinjaDeathSlap said:
Wow, I really need to brush up on my extended universe knowledge. I'm a long time fan of the series but it's been ages since I looked into any of this stuff and I barely understood half of what you just wrote.
you should, Halo: Glasslands is the first in the trilogy of Post-War series, and then Halo: Cryptum is the tale of a Forerunner called Bornsteller (or just Born.) The next book int he Forerunner saga comes out in janurary which tells the point of view of one of the Ancient Humans.