Revolutionaryloser said:
I can barely take you seriously. You've taken the concept of sequels, turned it into some convoluted argument about human nature, and at the end of it all you decided to insult people that want to see more Halo, or any other additions to a series for that matter.
Let's go over this point by point.
Your point regarding Halo and the difficulty of doing something new from in universe:
Wrong. Halo has always had something playing out on the sidelines- the mystery of the Forerunner. I, and many others, could always tell that the story behind the Forerunners wasn't as simple as it seemed. Many hints in the games and books (the books are canon, don't try and argue otherwise) supported this. That's where the new games are taking things. Elaborating on a sub plot from previous games/media and bringing it to the front. This is a somewhat difficult task and not everyone will be pleased, but the people working on the games now are the ones that love them... fans and some of the original creators that still saw the potential that the Halo universe had to offer. Because of that, it could end up fantastic.
Which brings me to your point about the Halo universe being all about Humans v Covenant v Flood. That's such a gross oversimplification. Look at the books, comics, and animes. There are a multitude of side and sub plots going on, from personal conflicts to the whole grand scheme of things (of which we are finally learning things about). Hell, there's a fucking audio drama that only ties into the main story of Halo at the very end. The rest of it is about a young guy who accidentally acquires a heavy duty ONI AI that can do pretty much anything, and is so fragmented she doesn't remember what her purpose was or where she came from. A universe as expansive as Halos has the potential to tell hundreds of stories.
I guess I'll use that to bring us to your final point, though I'll go over the others as well. Have I got the balls to let Halo go and play something new? How about this- have you got the balls to admit that you're wrong about something? What if Halo 4/5/6 end up improving each time? What if 6 ends up being the best? What if it's the best FPS of all time? Will you admit you're wrong, or will you keep up with your bullshit "sequels are harmful herp derp" crap?
I want more Halo. I
love the universe. In fact, it's somewhat of a dream of mine to be able to write for the universe, whether it be for future games or books or films or whatever. But guess what?
My favorite game of all time is Chrono Trigger.
I feel that the best bang-for-your-buck game ever is Skyrim.
I believe that the best designed game of all time that tells the best one-shot story is Red Dead Redemption.
And my list of favorite games of all time includes only one Halo game- the first one (or more specifically the re-release, Anniversary).
The Halo universe is my favorite fictional universe and tells my favorite overall stories, but it is by no means the only series I play, so don't go acting like you're doing me a favor by trying to convince me to give up one of my favorite things, and don't you EVER fucking accuse me or anyone else that loves something like this of "not having the balls" to try something else. Calling us cowardly for something like that is absolute horse shit, and the second I read that line, I lost all respect for you (though to be honest there wasn't a lot to begin with considering how quickly you dismissed something you've yet to even see anything about other than that it exists).
As I finished typing this, I decided I'm not even going to bother attacking your other points (I have words to say about your "rule of three", but it's pointless, as a lot of times sequels past 3 are terrible, I can agree on that), save your response to my third point.
Saying "go play the old stuff" is stupid. It's just stupid. It's more detrimental than making a sequel.
Yes, I go and replay old games. But you know what I do after? I play their sequels, all in a row, if it's a continuous story, and because I want to play a similar game with new elements. If all I had this whole time was the original Halo, I wouldn't have something in my life that's brought me hundreds of hours of enjoyment, because the Halo universe
wouldn't exist. Sequels build on ideas, both in story and gameplay, and at least try and perfect them. Without sequels, we wouldn't have the gravity gun. We wouldn't have the Source engine, which is outdated but brought so much to the table before. We wouldn't have gotten Portal 2. We wouldn't have gotten GTA 3. We wouldn't have gotten Modern Warfare. Morrowind, Oblivion, or Skyrim. Mass Effect 2. Chrono Cross. Final Fantasy 6/7/10. Megaman X/Zero.
It's ridiculous. Just plain ridiculous. I can't even wrap my head around the idea of trying to pull new universes out of our asses every damn time we'd want to make a new game. Yes, it's easier to make something that takes place within an existent universe, but just because it's easier, doesn't mean it's bad, by any means.
And as for saying "go play a game like it", no. If I want to play a game like Halo, I want to play a Halo game, one that takes place within that universe. If I want to play a first person shooter that isn't in the Halo universe, I'll play a first person that that isn't in the Halo universe. If I want to play a Halo game, I'll play a Halo game, and if I want MORE Halo, I want it in the form of a Halo game... that should be obvious. I can't believe I'm even explaining this. It's so redundant.
Anyway, I'm done. Reply if you want, but in all honesty, if it's the same stuff you've been spouting, I won't even bother replying.
