Has Dr Who lost it or is it just me?
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I will have to agree with you on that, I wasn't a huge fan of series 5 but it was still enjoyable. The Specials was amazing, I don't think any series could beat that.TimeLord said:
OT: I don't think so, they lost a writer and they are going through with a new one, I would expect some sort of shift with a new writer on board. The Neil Gaiman episode was awesome, but that's all a matter of opinion.
I'm quite enjoying all the new series.
Eccleston was OK, but compared to Tennant/Smith seems a little sub-par, perhaps because he did not stick with the series long enough.
Rose...she annoyed me, as did Mickey. The love-triangle thing that developed dragged on and on and, IMO, detracted from the series overall. Mickey was just generally useless.
Tennant was a pretty amazing Doctor, and a fantastic actor - however he, as it seemed to me, was too weepy most of the time. Having Catherine Tate as the companion worked really well, she off-set the Doctor nicely as well as providing a contrast to the general darker tone that the episodes were taking. Martha is probably my least-favourite companion ever (including the retro episodes).
Smith has a hard time, having to follow Tennant. However, I think he makes an amazing Doctor, and is probably my most favourite yet. Why? He may not be on an acting-par with Tennant, but his oddities and quirks, as well as general appearance, making him seem more alien that the Doctors have been previously; and his character in general lends itself well to a space-and-time-travelling super-intelligent, but ultimately lonely, character.
Amy swings between annoying and all right - she has her strong episodes and weak episodes. It is getting annoying that Rory seems to "die" all the frigging time, but he does have an awesome backstory and several moments of badassness that make him a somewhat lovable character.
Episode-wise, I think the last two series have been a mixed bag. Some have been absolutely amazing, some have been hysterical ("The Doctor's Wife"), and some have been dire (this most recent first-half of "Living Flesh - where nothing seemed to have actually happened and is just extended filler for the next episode). The foreshadowing is horrifically obvious compared to what has gone before, but I am hoping that is something that will be improved - but you can live with it when you remember that this is a series for absolutely everyone, from children to those who watched the originals with their own children.
So yeah, I'm liking the new Dr Who as a whole, and Smith's Doctor seems to be going quite well.
Eccleston was OK, but compared to Tennant/Smith seems a little sub-par, perhaps because he did not stick with the series long enough.
Rose...she annoyed me, as did Mickey. The love-triangle thing that developed dragged on and on and, IMO, detracted from the series overall. Mickey was just generally useless.
Tennant was a pretty amazing Doctor, and a fantastic actor - however he, as it seemed to me, was too weepy most of the time. Having Catherine Tate as the companion worked really well, she off-set the Doctor nicely as well as providing a contrast to the general darker tone that the episodes were taking. Martha is probably my least-favourite companion ever (including the retro episodes).
Smith has a hard time, having to follow Tennant. However, I think he makes an amazing Doctor, and is probably my most favourite yet. Why? He may not be on an acting-par with Tennant, but his oddities and quirks, as well as general appearance, making him seem more alien that the Doctors have been previously; and his character in general lends itself well to a space-and-time-travelling super-intelligent, but ultimately lonely, character.
Amy swings between annoying and all right - she has her strong episodes and weak episodes. It is getting annoying that Rory seems to "die" all the frigging time, but he does have an awesome backstory and several moments of badassness that make him a somewhat lovable character.
Episode-wise, I think the last two series have been a mixed bag. Some have been absolutely amazing, some have been hysterical ("The Doctor's Wife"), and some have been dire (this most recent first-half of "Living Flesh - where nothing seemed to have actually happened and is just extended filler for the next episode). The foreshadowing is horrifically obvious compared to what has gone before, but I am hoping that is something that will be improved - but you can live with it when you remember that this is a series for absolutely everyone, from children to those who watched the originals with their own children.
So yeah, I'm liking the new Dr Who as a whole, and Smith's Doctor seems to be going quite well.
The new series is awful.
The Christmas episode was too plot heavy and dialogue based for a good family christmas episode (David Tennant having a sword fight with a purple alien miles above london or Tardis vs giant cyberman is far better for that)
Every new episode is far too dark, and not in a good way. They're just bland and unimaginative. That episode where every single alien ever teams up to trap the doctor in an unescapable prison ruined it for me. He basically just went back in time and rescued himself. Where the hell is the tension when he can do something like that?
Doctor Who died when Tennant left. He said so himself.
The Christmas episode was too plot heavy and dialogue based for a good family christmas episode (David Tennant having a sword fight with a purple alien miles above london or Tardis vs giant cyberman is far better for that)
Every new episode is far too dark, and not in a good way. They're just bland and unimaginative. That episode where every single alien ever teams up to trap the doctor in an unescapable prison ruined it for me. He basically just went back in time and rescued himself. Where the hell is the tension when he can do something like that?
Doctor Who died when Tennant left. He said so himself.
I haven't really liked it as much since Matt Smith started. In fact it didn't really seem as good since Billie Piper left. But I still like it. Just nowhere near as much.
Wow, I can't believe people preferred it back when Russel T. 'I don't understand subtlety' Davies was in charge. Remember that time when he decided that the Daleks were going to blow up the universe? And every other universe as well? Because then they apparently win, somehow? Or the time the Master transformed every person on Earth to be like him, because apparently nothing is healthier than populating a planet with scheming, malevolent timelords who are just as hungry for power as you are. Fortunately they inexplicably do as the original Master tells them. Or the time the Daleks decided to make pig men, combine a Dalek with a human despite it going against everything they believe and then brainwash some humans despite the fact that the only thing that made them dangerous was the weapons the Daleks gave them. Or how about the way every two-parter consisted of them dragging out a single plot point for one whole episode while 'building tension' in the most unimaginative way possible, before starting the next episode with a quick deux ex machina. And let's not forgot the humour:
Yeah, Tennant was nice and all but he really started to suffer under Davies because he had to constantly switch from the wacky persona to the angry and angsty one with absolutely nothing in between the two. How else could they hammer home an incredibly simplistic moral message, such as 'The First World War was a bad thing'.
Yeah, Tennant was nice and all but he really started to suffer under Davies because he had to constantly switch from the wacky persona to the angry and angsty one with absolutely nothing in between the two. How else could they hammer home an incredibly simplistic moral message, such as 'The First World War was a bad thing'.
I haven't seen it myself, but I remember Gaiman's Babylon 5 episode feeling very Gaiman but not very B5.Pedro The Hutt said:
I don't have cable so I haven't been able to keep up with Doctor Who as it airs and I've only just started to watch season 5 - and I have to say I'm enjoying it. Davies made a lot of decisions I didn't like with the series (although thankfully he kept the worst for Torchwood) and it feels like the show is being put back together. Also while I enjoyed David Tennant's performance he was a bit wacky for me - too much like his idol/father-in-law Peter Davison. Funny enough in both cases I wasn't a fan of their take on the Doctor but there were some really great episodes during their tenures.
I still miss Eccleston, it took me a while to warm to the new Doctor Who but I was very disappointed to see Eccleston leave. So far Matt Smith seems to look great but I don't feel like he's nailed down a personality yet - he hasn't been bland, but he hasn't been distinctive either.
Geo Da Sponge said:Wow, I can't believe people preferred it back when Russel T. 'I don't understand subtlety' Davies was in charge. Remember that time when he decided that the Daleks were going to blow up the universe? And every other universe as well? Because then they apparently win, somehow? Or the time the Master transformed every person on Earth to be like him, because apparently nothing is healthier than populating a planet with scheming, malevolent timelords who are just as hungry for power as you are. Fortunately they inexplicably do as the original Master tells them. Or the time the Daleks decided to make pig men, combine a Dalek with a human despite it going against everything they believe and then brainwash some humans despite the fact that the only thing that made them dangerous was the weapons the Daleks gave them. Or how about the way every two-parter consisted of them dragging out a single plot point for one whole episode while 'building tension' in the most unimaginative way possible, before starting the next episode with a quick deux ex machina. And let's not forgot the humour:
Yeah, Tennant was nice and all but he really started to suffer under Davies because he had to constantly switch from the wacky persona to the angry and angsty one with absolutely nothing in between the two. How else could they hammer home an incredibly simplistic moral message, such as 'The First World War was a bad thing'.
I'd rather that than Matt "I can go back in time and rescue myself" Smith. Tennant's mood swings made him unpredictable and oddly fearsome.
