Hating James Vega?
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I thought he was alright.
Obviously I didn't like him as much as the characters I'd spent three whole, long games coming to know and love. He spent my entire first playthrough stuck on the Normandy, presumably doing weights and making coffee.
I brought him along a fair bit on my second run through though. I actually found a lot of his dialogue to be pretty amusing.
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Obviously I didn't like him as much as the characters I'd spent three whole, long games coming to know and love. He spent my entire first playthrough stuck on the Normandy, presumably doing weights and making coffee.
I brought him along a fair bit on my second run through though. I actually found a lot of his dialogue to be pretty amusing.
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IIRC he asks if it's ok to call you that. I figured he wouldn't if you said no.IceForce said:
OT: I actually liked him. It was interesting how the guy treated Shepard like kind of a big brother or something. There was some depth to him and he was kinda neat. Honestly, I think a forum full of nerds is just going to be biased against a jock-like character from the get go.
In one of the first conversation you have with him you can tell him to stop calling Shepard that. He won't do it again for the entire game.IceForce said:
Which is actually kind of surprising, since that means they recorded alternate versions of all the lines where he says that.
EDIT: Aaaaaand ninja'd.
/threadPhaethom said:
You've answered your own question OP
For the record, Udina wasn't such a bad character. He was a very skilled politician who played like a game of chess, he knew when he couldn't win an argument and didn't babble on like a preacher. He was an arsehole but even Anderson admitted he couldn't live-up to his caliber.
Of course ME3 fucked everything up :<
He filled the role he was given quite well, so overall I liked him. Jacob on the other hand was just a horrible character. Miranda wasn't much better.
Nobody can live up to Mordin though. Mordin was the best character, period. On top of being the best character, Bioware gave him a really awesome death scene. Legion was also pretty amazing. Wrex as well. And Grunt. The laugh, oh god the Grunt Laugh.
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Nobody can live up to Mordin though. Mordin was the best character, period. On top of being the best character, Bioware gave him a really awesome death scene. Legion was also pretty amazing. Wrex as well. And Grunt. The laugh, oh god the Grunt Laugh.
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Well let's see, we get charged with getting to Liara T'soni from Mars and when we get there we see Cerberus Troops.
Eventually we come across Liara killing two of the Cerberus guys, and he's too stupid to put two and two together and advances on her gun out.
We have one shuttle that he's supposed to be guarding, but decides he should crash it into a fleeing Cerberus vessel while the rest of the team is in the crash zone, wrecking both shuttles and nearly killing Shepard.
This is the first mission. It's also the reason why he was never brought on another one in any of my games.
He fills the role of macho meat head on a team that's built around the best and the brightest the galaxy has to offer, he's out of place, and can be downright detrimental to the cause.
Eventually we come across Liara killing two of the Cerberus guys, and he's too stupid to put two and two together and advances on her gun out.
We have one shuttle that he's supposed to be guarding, but decides he should crash it into a fleeing Cerberus vessel while the rest of the team is in the crash zone, wrecking both shuttles and nearly killing Shepard.
This is the first mission. It's also the reason why he was never brought on another one in any of my games.
He fills the role of macho meat head on a team that's built around the best and the brightest the galaxy has to offer, he's out of place, and can be downright detrimental to the cause.
Really!? Cuz to me that whole situation came out of nowhere.Phaethom said:
Udina was a prick, but he was never supposed to be villain material. The only reason he got turned into a traitor is solely rooted in the fans dislike for him. There was no point to it.
OT: I never hated Vega, it's just that me liking Garrus and Liara way more meant I never really had him in my team if I had the choice.
like most of the mass effect series after the first, i dont really hate vega, and sometimes enjoy him, but i find it reasonably impossible to get over the fact that he has no place or purpose in either the plot or themes of the game. Shepard is supposed to be gathering all the obsessive super-geniuses he knows to bunker down, put aside their BS, and solve a problem, but vega is just big dumb muscle who belongs in an actual uniform standing by a door and saluting when shepard passes, there is no reason for him to be a permanent squaddie. your team is composed of decorated alliance officers, alien technicians and leaders, space batman and the last of our precursor race, all with the power to influence nations and war fleets... wtf does vega offer other than another gun to pew pew at the zombies with? i suppose he is one more expendable to take the danger for a more important squaddie, but that does nothing to stop his character development from being be pointless and awkward,despite actually being quite good.
I can sort of go with it, he was a dick, and I wouldn't turn down the option to give him a punch in the teeth, but it certainly felt a bit forced. I sort of understand why he did what he did, but the way he attempted to justify it seemed way off. As well as Shepard and Anderson thinking he may have been indoctrinated. I can totally see why he did it, why didn't he just say that rather than trying to frame Shepard?Casual Shinji said:
He really did it because he wanted to save Earth. That was the point, it only went tits up because he made a deal with Cerberus and his forces were led by a nutter. He was still trying to get the council to save earth right to the end, even going so far as to try to help them escape when Leng decides to start murdering people left right and centre.
I really liked him. He worked like the characters from ME1, they seem like a stereotype but if you get to know them better they are deep and complex. And he's voiced by Freddy from Scooby Doo.
Didn't really have any feelings for or against Mr. Vega. He was kind of a non-entity for me; never took him on missions where I didn't have to.
I liked him just fine! He was great in a fight and had some great dialogue, especially when conversing and bantering with other characters. I really don't know why people disliked him so much - sure he had an iffy past but he'd sorted it out and didn't whinge about it every 2 seconds!
I also didn't dislike Jacob either. Sure he could be a tad stoic at times but he was honest, upright and dependable without being snotty or arrogant.
I also didn't dislike Jacob either. Sure he could be a tad stoic at times but he was honest, upright and dependable without being snotty or arrogant.
Vega was remarkably stereotyped. A solid, macho soldier man; out of touch with his feelings and inept in any scenario he can't resolve with his gun/biceps. Perhaps there was slightly more to him than that, but not a lot more. He was comic relief more than anything else.
I tried the exact same thing on one of my play-throughs. Fem Shep isn't really in the same league as the Major, though. One is good, the other is incredible math.Legion said:
I loved James Vega XD I was actually hoping he was open to be a romance option, and I was sad when he wasn't. (I even went through the whole Fem!Shep flirt side-story with him.) Squad talk, he was always in my squad. Worked nicely with my Biotic shep.
Also being voiced by Freddy from Scooby Doo hugged my inner child.
Also being voiced by Freddy from Scooby Doo hugged my inner child.