Hatred Through Association.

[BonsaiK]

Girls who go for the "bad boy" forget that they're called "bad" because they really are quite literally "bad". Then they complain that men are "bad". Don't listen to them. Half of them secretly love it, and the other half are just plain dumb.

By the way I totally get the "I'm a nice guy, why are women passing me up for the scumbags?" vibe of the OP. I think that's the real issue of this post. My advice to you is that women like to be respected, loved, treated courteously etc of course they do, but they also like to be slammed up against the wall every once in a while (mostly metaphorically, but sometimes literally, depends on the girl). The secret is to cultivate a little bit of superficial badness, but still be the nice guy underneath. Treat her nicely where it really matters and badly when she wants it. If you can manage this balancing act (and if she's a good communicator that will certainly help things along by eliminating a lot of the guessing games) then you'll be that "bad boy" that all the girls go out with, while all the "nice guys" look on and go "he's such an asshole, how did he score that hot chick...". Trust me, it works. It's been working for me for a while now...

 

[Labyrinth]

You really think this is the forum to get WOMEN to stop lumping men together? =D

Hiii! Lyke ohmygawwwwd I cannot believe this site! Seriouslyitsridiculous.. as I have no Y chromosome I'm to stereotype!

And by god that made my head hurt. Ugh, how people actually speak like that is beyond me.

To the point. Sex (this is, as opposed to gender because there's a difference) stereotypes and dislike can only continue due to segregation. Now before someone jumps down my throat for being an angry feminist let me clarify. Below are some examples for you to mull over.

Look to primary schools. You've got "coodeys", you've got sex cliques where the girls all sit with the girls and the boys all with the boys. Even at a co-ed school it's rare to see the two intermingle. Don't get me started on boys-only or girls-only. This leads to a certain pathos about the opposing sex which is hardly discouraged by paranoid parents worrying about their darling son or daughter going to parties that have both boys and girls there. Oh god! The 7-year-olds are going to have sex! It's a social taboo which is naught but detrimental.

Then on to high school. The segregation continues and is added to by ridicule. How many people do you see tarred with the "gay!" brush because they spend a lot of time with the opposite sex? The social expectations set up in early years continue when people start dating. If two people of opposing sexes are talking there's bound to be gossip eventually, even if they are but good friends. The idea that, to men, women are mysterious creatures is endlessly perpetuated and the same is true in reverse. Yes there are those who broach these social boundaries. Yes there are those who have no qualms about it. However I see so much taboo bullshit around (even with my own parents) that I can't help but raise a brow.

I can't really talk about uni and beyond, I'm a mere highschool student.

The point I'm trying to get at is that the sex divide is more to blame for this kind of stupidity than anything else. Perhaps instead of dividing the sexes to teach them to be good men and women, we should lump everyone together and teach them to be good people. This would help with the "RARARA!! HATE PENIS!!! RARARA!!" kind of attitude just as it would the "Fucking slut! Show us yah tits!" kind of thing that I see a lot. Communication, people, is key.

 

[Plauged1]

If I judged every race/creed/gender because of 1 asshole, I would hate the entire human race.

Same here.

I try to be nice. Shit I buy presents, hold hands, tell them they are beautiful, ALL BECAUSE I WANT TO AND ITS TRUE. In the end, they call me a freak, just because I did not attempt rape on the first date. I hate those sexist bitches and dickheads.

But, to all that tried, at least we weren't users and abusers.

 

[WilliamWhite1]

I wholeheartedly agree as a man who has been in the same context both on-site and IRL as well.

I think the whole problem in this situation is the way we are painted out to be. Men are viewed as these sadistic, intercourse-loving, habitually stalking population whose only goal in life is to go out there and grab as many women as possible. We are seen as people who only want to take the ladies for what we truly want to do with them, and as individuals who can morph to deceive women into thinking we are something that we're not. The last time I checked, actors and actresses were the ones who were more than capable of doing that, and I find it difficult to believe that a lot of these 'bad boys' are superbly capable of blending in with the 'good boy' persona, just to go on a one-night stand.

The truth is this:

A lot of guys cannot get enough of a woman's perfect figure. Heck, a lot of guys get off on thinking about women and imagining what it would be like to be with that person. As such, they are very easily affected by social constructs and jump into character (practically) when faced with an opportunity to have a lady for the night. This is not respectful, it is not right, and it is something that should be resisted at all costs. I don't mind saying that a lot of guys are led by their sexual drives, and that it's shameful to know that they don't always think with their minds.

On the other hand, I, like you, am sick and tired of being viewed as a knuckle-dragging excuse for a decent human being. I hate men who go out to bars at night, to clubs, only to get another run at sex. I heavily dislike men who go out and give women hope, only to dash it away, because they make me seem as though I were one of them. They bunch me with them, as I am now part of that 'male' portion of the population. Instantly, I'm dashed with this coat of stalker, sexual deviant, player, and et cetera, when I'm not even looking for any action, at all.

It's frustrating, when you think about it: whenever I mention that I'm not even looking for action, or even a significant other, it means I must be either homosexual or sterile. What's up with that? Did it ever occur to some of these ladies that I'm merely not interested? No, there must be something wrong with me, that I'm not another one of these horndog, anal individuals. When they realize how honest I'm being, then they flip out. Then they can't believe it. And trust me, it takes a good, long talking to before they understand the truth. It shouldn't be that difficult to trust a boy when he says he's not out there to find sex, or even a girlfriend. A night on the town shouldn't always consist of picking up on the ladies.

So for you guys out there who are reading this (you know who you are), quit this habitual conduct of yours. Is it really that important for you to 'score,' hm? Do you really get that much invigoration out of it? Or is it the thrill of the hunt that you enjoy? Just remember this:

Your actions may hurt a young lady, just as they splash our sex with blasphemy.

 

[Plauged1]

You really think this is the forum to get WOMEN to stop lumping men together? =D

Hiii! Lyke ohmygawwwwd I cannot believe this site! Seriouslyitsridiculous.. as I have no Y chromosome I'm to stereotype!

And by god that made my head hurt. Ugh, how people actually speak like that is beyond me.

To the point. Sex (this is, as opposed to gender because there's a difference) stereotypes and dislike can only continue due to segregation. Now before someone jumps down my throat for being an angry feminist let me clarify. Below are some examples for you to mull over.

Look to primary schools. You've got "coodeys", you've got sex cliques where the girls all sit with the girls and the boys all with the boys. Even at a co-ed school it's rare to see the two intermingle. Don't get me started on boys-only or girls-only. This leads to a certain pathos about the opposing sex which is hardly discouraged by paranoid parents worrying about their darling son or daughter going to parties that have both boys and girls there. Oh god! The 7-year-olds are going to have sex! It's a social taboo which is naught but detrimental.

Then on to high school. The segregation continues and is added to by ridicule. How many people do you see tarred with the "gay!" brush because they spend a lot of time with the opposite sex? The social expectations set up in early years continue when people start dating. If two people of opposing sexes are talking there's bound to be gossip eventually, even if they are but good friends. The idea that, to men, women are mysterious creatures is endlessly perpetuated and the same is true in reverse. Yes there are those who broach these social boundaries. Yes there are those who have no qualms about it. However I see so much taboo bullshit around (even with my own parents) that I can't help but raise a brow.

I can't really talk about uni and beyond, I'm a mere highschool student.

The point I'm trying to get at is that the sex divide is more to blame for this kind of stupidity than anything else. Perhaps instead of dividing the sexes to teach them to be good men and women, we should lump everyone together and teach them to be good people. This would help with the "RARARA!! HATE PENIS!!! RARARA!!" kind of attitude just as it would the "Fucking slut! Show us yah tits!" kind of thing that I see a lot. Communication, people, is key.

You are a genius. What I hate is that the girl being called the slut wants the guy calling her a slut. Oh, yeah, that makes sense...=\

 

[S.H.A.R.P.]

Thanks for standing up to us good guys. We ain't all bad you know, some of us are kind and gentle! Most are pricks though, unfortunately.

You use too much grammar for facebook.

True indeed. I'll bet that either nobody replied because either they didn't understand your comment, or everybody flamed at you for not understanding what you said, and assuming that you said something diminishing.

Just guesses by the way, I shun those kinds of network sites like facebook. But guessing by the comments you quoted this seems rather credible.

 

[riskroWe]

http://www.justaguything.com/the-top-5-things-jerks-do-to-get-women/

 

[WilliamWhite1]

http://www.justaguything.com/the-top-5-things-jerks-do-to-get-women/

This seems as though it could also be much of the reasons why jerks tend to get so much done.

Hey, some values they utilize are worth nice guys giving it a try. Looks like a lot of it is confidence and even a slight level of narcissism.

Just wish it didn't have to come to that.

 

[Kinguendo]

You really think this is the forum to get WOMEN to stop lumping men together? =D

Hiii! Lyke ohmygawwwwd I cannot believe this site! Seriouslyitsridiculous.. as I have no Y chromosome I'm to stereotype!

And by god that made my head hurt. Ugh, how people actually speak like that is beyond me.

To the point. Sex (this is, as opposed to gender because there's a difference) stereotypes and dislike can only continue due to segregation. Now before someone jumps down my throat for being an angry feminist let me clarify. Below are some examples for you to mull over.

Look to primary schools. You've got "coodeys", you've got sex cliques where the girls all sit with the girls and the boys all with the boys. Even at a co-ed school it's rare to see the two intermingle. Don't get me started on boys-only or girls-only. This leads to a certain pathos about the opposing sex which is hardly discouraged by paranoid parents worrying about their darling son or daughter going to parties that have both boys and girls there. Oh god! The 7-year-olds are going to have sex! It's a social taboo which is naught but detrimental.

Then on to high school. The segregation continues and is added to by ridicule. How many people do you see tarred with the "gay!" brush because they spend a lot of time with the opposite sex? The social expectations set up in early years continue when people start dating. If two people of opposing sexes are talking there's bound to be gossip eventually, even if they are but good friends. The idea that, to men, women are mysterious creatures is endlessly perpetuated and the same is true in reverse. Yes there are those who broach these social boundaries. Yes there are those who have no qualms about it. However I see so much taboo bullshit around (even with my own parents) that I can't help but raise a brow.

I can't really talk about uni and beyond, I'm a mere highschool student.

The point I'm trying to get at is that the sex divide is more to blame for this kind of stupidity than anything else. Perhaps instead of dividing the sexes to teach them to be good men and women, we should lump everyone together and teach them to be good people. This would help with the "RARARA!! HATE PENIS!!! RARARA!!" kind of attitude just as it would the "Fucking slut! Show us yah tits!" kind of thing that I see a lot. Communication, people, is key.

Wait... why did you choose to quote my comment to vent? I hope the answer is funny... or a compliment either and I will be happy... and tired... although the tired thing might have gone once I go to sleep after posting this comment. Feel special? XD

 

[aswiftlytiltingreality]

Ok, as a woman myself, I feel the need to point out that not all of us feel this way. I get really annoyed when some other woman feels the need to bash all men just because her boyfriend or her ex treated her like dirt. She should be blaming him, not every other man out there.

Secondly, I get really offended when I'm around other women who feel they are entitled to call men "pigs" because some men are actually pigs. It makes me angrier when these same women expect to be treated equally and get angry over men calling them a "*****" when they are being bitches. A man shouldn't have to treat a woman as an equal if she refuses to treat him as an equal. If you can't respect someone because of their gender, don't expect them to respect you.

I've had plenty of experience getting involved with dirtbags, but it doesn't keep me from respecting men. I judge each and everyone of them individually. If they treat me like crap, then I can't respect them and they're not my equal. If they treat me like a person ought to be treated, then I respect them.

In closing, I think men are awesome and I really mean it.

 

[Leorex]

theres not much you can do but keep being a good guy, and hope that it all works out.

 

[hypothetical fact]

It's easy for a woman to get brushed off and jump on the all guys are dicks bandwagon to preserve her own emotions. It's also easy for women to make friends with the former group by hopping on the bandwagon too whether they mean it or not.

 

[Labyrinth]

*snip*

It was inspiration. Yay for ambiguous responses!

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

I don't hate women, but it seems I inevitably hate the ones who will go out with me.