Have DC and Marvel superheroes outworn their welcome?

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Rednog

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No, because every so often the comics change a bit and come out with a new take on the superheroes. I mean look at how batman has gone from the whole hippy Adam West/ Golden age to the dark gritty era that we have now. Or the take of superman in Smallville.
The problem with Nintendo is that they don't experiment with new takes on characters.
It just ends up being small tweaks from game to game and a few goodies thrown in. And the problem is that people are absolutely in denial about it, I mean you tell anyone that from generation to generation pokemon really hasn't changed that much, you'll get quoted with a long list of small tweaks, but in the end it is still the same nonsense of kid, pokemon, gyms, team rocket, legendary pokemon, final 4.
Why does Nintendo do this? Because it is the tried and true method of making money. Why bother changing something when it works? Sure you're going to lose people who find it boring and repetitive, but the next generation is just going to eat it all up just like the generation before it did.
But you know that is just fine, Nintendo is the gateway for people into videogames and they've filled that niche quite well. Just don't go around hailing their games as the most innovative thing ever, because it just isn't.
 

algalon

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DC, maybe. Marvel, no. Marvel stories are already somewhat relatable - every character is flawed in one way or another. They're not the outdated paragons of good that DC characters are. The one marvel hero that was anything like the DC counterparts turned out to be a schizophrenic druggy. With Marvel, if a character needs to change, they change, whether that be a change in team status, location, motivations, whatever. With DC, when a character needs to change, first their entire world or heck the universe must change so that the character can stay pretty much the same, just a few years younger/older. Any Marvel hero that's not Avengers or Avengers - affiliated is automatically a domestic terrorist until they prove otherwise. This by itself draws fast comparisons to the current political climate.
 

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Well...there's some truth to that, IMHO. DC recently rebooted to start eveyrthing agian from the ground up, because the existing stories were rather complicated and convoluted. Unfortunately, they erased all the social progress made in this time, and gave everyone who wasn't as close as possibly to straight white male a good kicking.

I've never found the old names that interesting, TBH. The bat-family> Batman, the super____s > superman etc. And even then, most of the stories are just waffle. Maybe entertaining waffle, but very rarely with any great depth to them, though there are a number of exceptions.
 

Kolby Jack

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thaluikhain said:
Well...there's some truth to that, IMHO. DC recently rebooted to start eveyrthing agian from the ground up, because the existing stories were rather complicated and convoluted. Unfortunately, they erased all the social progress made in this time, and gave everyone who wasn't as close as possibly to straight white male a good kicking.
Yep. That seems to be the case, for sure. They certainly didn't make CYBORG into a founding member of the JUSTICE LEAGUE this go around. And they never created two all new members of the Teen Titans named Bunker who was both Hispanic and gay and Skitter who is black, not to mention Solstice, who is Indian. Nor does Steel get the spotlight in several Action Comics issues, to the point where it's basically half Superman and half John Henry Irons. And they also never gave Static his own series (though it was cancelled for low sales, I believe). And of course they never invented Batman Inc., a highly praised series that features "Batmen" from all around the world of various races and cultures like Nightrunner (a Sunni Muslim) in Paris or Batwing (an African) in the Congo. Because that would all be CRAZY. And that's not even all that I could have mentioned.

Please, dude, be more ignorant. I'd love it if everyone on Earth was as easy to prove absolutely fucking wrong as you right now.
 

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Jack the Potato said:
Yep. That seems to be the case, for sure. They certainly didn't make CYBORG into a founding member of the JUSTICE LEAGUE this go around. And they never created two all new members of the Teen Titans named Bunker who was both Hispanic and gay and Skitter who is black, not to mention Solstice, who is Indian. Nor does Steel get the spotlight in several Action Comics issues, to the point where it's basically half Superman and half John Henry Irons. And they also never gave Static his own series (though it was cancelled for low sales, I believe). And of course they never invented Batman Inc., a highly praised series that features "Batmen" from all around the world of various races and cultures like Nightrunner (a Sunni Muslim) in Paris or Batwing (an African) in the Congo. Because that would all be CRAZY. And that's not even all that I could have mentioned.

Please, dude, be more ignorant. I'd love it if everyone on Earth was as easy to prove absolutely fucking wrong as you right now.
Ok, I was exagerating there, they do have a number of people who aren't straight white males, but the otherwhelming majority leans that way more than it did before the reboot. And don't get me started on Voodoo or Waller or Starfire.

Did they bring Batman Inc back? I thought the reboot killed that off.
 

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thaluikhain said:
Jack the Potato said:
Yep. That seems to be the case, for sure. They certainly didn't make CYBORG into a founding member of the JUSTICE LEAGUE this go around. And they never created two all new members of the Teen Titans named Bunker who was both Hispanic and gay and Skitter who is black, not to mention Solstice, who is Indian. Nor does Steel get the spotlight in several Action Comics issues, to the point where it's basically half Superman and half John Henry Irons. And they also never gave Static his own series (though it was cancelled for low sales, I believe). And of course they never invented Batman Inc., a highly praised series that features "Batmen" from all around the world of various races and cultures like Nightrunner (a Sunni Muslim) in Paris or Batwing (an African) in the Congo. Because that would all be CRAZY. And that's not even all that I could have mentioned.

Please, dude, be more ignorant. I'd love it if everyone on Earth was as easy to prove absolutely fucking wrong as you right now.
Ok, I was exagerating there, they do have a number of people who aren't straight white males, but the otherwhelming majority leans that way more than it did before the reboot. And don't get me started on Voodoo or Waller or Starfire.

Did they bring Batman Inc back? I thought the reboot killed that off.
Yea, they are bringing it back I believe next month.