Have Quarians been retconned? Mild spoilers.

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similar.squirrel

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I've just finished Tali's side-quest in Mass Effect 2, and I couldn't help but notice one or two things that don't quite add up with what I learned about the species from Mass Effect 1.

The purpose of the distinctive environment suits is to prevent infection, as the Flotilla ships maintain a sterile environment which has atrophied the immune systems of their residents, leading to high susceptibility to pathogens; a self-imposed AIDS of sorts.

I can understand that the Quarians encountered during that particular mission were justified in wearing their suits, as both Shepard and whichever companion was brought along were of a different species and therefore rife with all sorts of nastiness. But the inside of the ship was quite grimy, the walls harbouring what appeared to be algae or fungus. Still, it would make sense that Quarians be resistant to anything of that sort since these life-forms were most likely indigenous to their homeworld.

But talking to Tali later, she explained that the social norms of Quarian society were influenced by their omnipresent environmental-protection suits, which no-doubt led to compensation in terms of sociability.
I was under the impression that the interior of these ships was sterile, and that their inhabitants went about déshabillé, so to speak.

It was also mentioned at some point that Quarians got their suits upon reaching maturity.

Am I missing something here, or was this aspect of the game lore changed for the sequel, possibly to avoid revealing the elusive Quarian visage?

Sorry if this is a lengthy and badly-written query. And I'm aware that the Mass Effect universe has some plot-holes, like the ability of every species to speak English [I'm putting that down to some kind of Babelfish-esque setup, for the sake of verisimilitude..]
 

Confidingtripod

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alot was changed in the sequel for some reason...

If you want a good joke bring legon on her misson they act very subdued for the past they should have, another change I guess
 

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similar.squirrel said:
It was also mentioned at some point that Quarians got their suits upon reaching maturity.
In regards to this, if you talk to the overseer of Tali's trial (I forget her name)about random things, Tali explains that Quarian children are kept in a sort of "bubble" until they reach adolescence and are given their suits, so they still have a protective environment.

In regards to the grimy, plant appearance on the walls, this could be for a number of reasons not explained. This is all speculation, but it could be that these plants provide oxygen or are used as a source of food for the Quarians.

similar.squirrel said:
Still, it would make sense that Quarians be resistant to anything of that sort since these life-forms were most likely indigenous to their homeworld.
Tali speaks to you about this I think after you complete her sidequest. She explains that since Haestrom lacked insect life the plants formed symbiotic relationships with the Quarians so to speak, providing viruses that were partially beneficial. This stagnated immune system development.

As to the complete sterile environment of the flotilla, you can't have something 100% sterilized, so even trace amounts of contaminants may still be present, thereby posing a hazard for the Quarians. I hope this helps.
 

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I think that the ship you where on had some sort of public space that was also accessible for non-quarians.
 

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Suicidal Rodent said:
similar.squirrel said:
It was also mentioned at some point that Quarians got their suits upon reaching maturity.
In regards to this, if you talk to the overseer of Tali's trial (I forget her name)about random things, Tali explains that Quarian children are kept in a sort of "bubble" until they reach adolescence and are given their suits, so they still have a protective environment.

In regards to the grimy, plant appearance on the walls, this could be for a number of reasons not explained. This is all speculation, but it could be that these plants provide oxygen or are used as a source of food for the Quarians.

similar.squirrel said:
Still, it would make sense that Quarians be resistant to anything of that sort since these life-forms were most likely indigenous to their homeworld.
Tali speaks to you about this I think after you complete her sidequest. She explains that since Haestrom lacked insect life the plants formed symbiotic relationships with the Quarians so to speak, providing viruses that were partially beneficial. This stagnated immune system development.

As to the complete sterile environment of the flotilla, you can't have something 100% sterilized, so even trace amounts of contaminants may still be present, thereby posing a hazard for the Quarians. I hope this helps.
I thought the bubble was a sort of transitory thing. Explanation for the algae is pretty neat, though. Thanks.

I was aware of the bubble thing, but Tali didn't mention anything about the native ecosystem when I spoke with her. That was odd. Must try it again.

Feel like a right idiot now. Thought I was the sort of person who assimilated information quite well. Thanks anyway.
 

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Quarians wear their suits pretty much all the time even on their own ships they are entirely covered except in certain circumstances.

If you want to know a bit more about the Quarians you should check out the Mass Effect books.
 

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Straying Bullet said:
If I may add something, you might know the Flotila isn't really state of the art. They are constantly repairing it. Making adjustments. So I suppose all what you described inside the ships would be logicial giving that they cannot seal everything or prevent such things from occuring.

I might be wrong though.
Seeing as the only thing that can get inside is vacuum [or is it air getting outside?], that shouldn't be a problem. But I suppose the risk of contamination from salvaged parts is appreciable.
 

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If you ever pick up and read Mass Effect: Ascension (the book that takes place right after the conclusion of Mass Effect 1), it's all very neatly explained in there.

Basically the Flotilla in itself is a piece of crap, and most of the ships on it are ancient and held together by repairs with scavenged material, so for a quarian to choose not to wear their environmental suit while aboard could easily become the worst mistake they'll ever make when the patched up hull breach from last week decides to tear itself open again. So environmental suits have more or less become a part of quarian life, and in a lot of cases they seem more prone to identifying each other by the appearance of each others suits (only times they actually remove the suits is in situations of utmost privacy, or intimacy).

Also about the whole thing with Shepard and his crew running around the place; aside from maybe Mordin and Jack (who only use masks, though that may be a screw-up with BioWare's decisions concerning model appearances, specially with the visit to the Migrant Fleet), just about everyone on Shepard's team that steps on the Flotilla wear their hazard/environmental suits and protection gear. Plus in Ascension it's mentioned that every ship that docks by the Migrant Fleet, no matter type and origin, goes through a decontamination process. So the Flotilla overall is very... clean: it's just a risk in itself to live on it because stuff might fall apart all of a sudden.

Mass Effect: Ascension honestly has plenty of background info on the quarians and their way of life. Like what it's like to live on the Migrant Fleet (disregard the fact that they're exiles from their homeworld and living on a massive flotilla of ancient ships, their social structure is like utopia), how to insult a quarian, fleeting and vague info about what's beneath the masks, how they manage to eat and shit on every place that isn't the Migrant Fleet, as well as what exactly happened that made them hate Cerberus so much.



EDIT: It also very tidily explains how come every race knows English. Derpy derp.