Have you ever used Cocaine?

[Palmerama]

I have used cocaine in the past and I perceived it as a pointless thing to take! The buzz only lasts for 10 mins then you have to have another line & its ludicrously expensive!
Its also a dirty drug like pills and speed. You have no idea what the stuff is cut with and the horrible come down you get later is due to your body having to recover with whatever 'extras' were in them.

I don't take drugs anymore, as I did them in my teens & early 20s and they no longer appeal to me, im too old & i know I wouldn't have the same experiences as I did when I was younger.

Im not advocating drugs at all. Used in the wrong hands & situation can have dire consequences.
But I know there are people on here who do use drugs or are considering using them so I will say this. If you are going to use drugs or want to try them with your friends, then do it in a room together like a living room. Read up on what you are going to take & what you can do if something goes wrong. Also if you are sure you want to take a drug the drug I would recommend is MDMA. Its a clear/white crystalised powder which is basically pure ecstasy. This means that it isn't cut with anything else, and the comedown you'll have won't be horrible, also out of all the recreational drugs apart form weed its the safest one (as safe as a drug can be).
Make sure you stock up on sucky sweets and chewing gum (you are going gurn and this can cause alot of damage to the inside of your mouth). The most imortant thing is when you get thirsty (and you will), DO NOT DOWN A PINT OF WATER! Only have a gulp every 10-20 mins or so. The reason being is the main cause of death from party drugs is that people guzzle down water when they're thirsty. When you are on these drugs your body cannot absorb the liquid as quickly as it normally can, so if you drink too much water then you will flood your brain!
One thing that can happen is that some people can freak out & this causes their body temperature to rise. If this happens, get them to take their top off and rub themselves down with a cold wet flannel. If you feel yourself getting too hot, do it to yourself. Don't take a cold shower as that would be too much of a shock for your body.

Once again can I point out that I am NOT advertising drugs at all! I am trying to be informative and hopefully educate the memebers of this community that are considering using drugs. Considering the horror stories I have heard I count me & my friends lucky that we did them in a safe enviroment inside, and new what was going to happen & knew what to do if something went wrong, and thankfully nothing did.

 

[Shpongled]

I love that effect. The K-hole is the only reason i ever touched the stuff, i don't really see the point of it in a social setting, it just makes everyone and everything weird and awkward. Someone brings K to a houseparty and there's always a room full of people dribbling and talking nonsense all in their own little world. The K-hole in a nice comfy bed is out-of-body-experience levels of craziness, i've relived entire past experiences as memories, in real time, all sorts.

K and DMT, the two most mind-blowing drug's you could possibly take, imho.

Yeah it can be fun but like most psychedelics a lot of it depends on your state of mind as I'm sure you know. Mixing it with coke is..."interesting"...seeing as it's not only hitting you with a disassociative anaesthetic but also a massive stimulant, your brains going off at 100mph at the same time as all the external stimuli are being shut off and it goes even more mental than it would normally.

captcha: "run the gauntlet" ... lolololol.

Yeh that's the problem really, as you said in your earlier post, people take too much of it and they just aren't in the right mind set/setting to enjoy the craziness, so they start panicking and it all spirals down from there. Which i guess is the reason most people tend to consider the k-hole something to avoid, they just aren't in the environment for it.

I've combined it with phetamine before, wasn't an enjoyable experience, it was just too much for my brain to cope with at once really, the speed pulling me one way and the K another. My heart probably wasn't having a fun time of it either. MDMA was the only stimulanty sort of drug that worked with K for me, had some beautiful visuals on that combo. Also emotional times, i remember crying my eyes out with a girlfriend about how beautiful life actually is and how we all mistreat ourselves and each other for poor reasons, realizing how good life can be if you let it. This was from 3 LSD tabs, 3 200mg bombs of MD and a number of key bumps of K over the night, and that night changed me completely, and all for the better, so there's always a place in my heart(/stash) for a little bit of K. There's a lot of good in that little molecule (lot of potential for bad too admittedly).

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This means that it isn't cut with anything else, and the comedown you'll have won't be horrible, also out of all the recreational drugs apart form weed its the safest one (as safe as a drug can be).....

Sigh, i don't like doing this because i agree wholeheartedly with your message, but... well, MDMA is actually neurotoxic, it's safer than most stimulants but it's still a drug to be wary of, there are much safer drugs out there than MDMA. Spreading the message of education is all well and good, but we've got to make sure we've educated ourselves...

 

[370999]

No and I can't imagine I would ever really want to. I think alcohol is enough for me.

 

[Quaxar]

Legalize and regulate all of them From heroin to weed. The most intoxicating drug on the planet is already legal, as is the deadliest (alcohol and cigarettes respectively).

The most... intoxicating and deadly drug on the planet... I, um... what? This is either trolling, ignorance in regard of various illegal substances or I'm missing an important point there. I'm sorry but care to elaborate please?

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Addictive_Properties
Alcohol is the most intoxicating, and cigarettes clearly kill the most... if you haven't figured that out then your ignorance in regard of various illegal substances is hilarious .

http://science.iowamedicalmarijuana.org/pdfs/safety/Nutt%20Rational%20Scale%20Drug%20Harms%20Lancet%202007.pdf

http://www.americanscientist.org/libraries/documents/200645104835_307.pdf
This info tells us that Heroin is the most likely to kill you as far as a substance go (they take into account street vendors failing to keep the product pure, and they state that if it was legal it would be moved down the list. They also show how Nutmeg and Datura are the 2nd and third deadliest while neither of them are illegal. Further they state that Marijuana and LSD have never been responsible for a death by substance?

Seriously though I can't tell if you were trolling or have just never looked up any science behind all things drug. I have a ton more sources as well.

So you're referring to the 2010 Nutt study, I see.
<spoiler=Short summary for those interested>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/HarmCausedByDrugsTable.svg/600px-HarmCausedByDrugsTable.svg.png

Might I direct your gaze to a part of your very own second link:

Tobacco and alcohol were included because their
extensive use has provided reliable data on their risks and
harms, providing familiar benchmarks against which the
absolute harms of other drugs can be judged. However,
direct comparison of the scores for tobacco and alcohol
with those of the other drugs is not possible since the fact
that they are legal could affect their harms in various
ways, especially through easier availability.

Saying alcohol is more harmful than hard drugs is equal to saying cars are more dangerous than a F/A-18 Hornet. Of course, a driving license can be obtained by almost everyone with ease whereas there's far less people piloting a fighter jet plus they've got more experience in it than random drivers.
Heroin addicts know what they're doing most of the time, they do it in groups so as to watch each other, a lot carry naloxone to cancel out side-effects just in case and mostly you don't start with jamming needles in your veins. On the other hand every stupid little teenager can get his hands on a few bottles of booze because it's legal and culturally accepted and even if they get caught red-handed the worst they can expect is the cops confiscating the alcohol and maybe telling the parents. And of course there's not really anything of a "coke snorting game" or "binge snorting" or so.

And in any way I'd imagine the fact that the worst drugs are already legal should rather be a thought away from legalizing yet more addictive substances .

 

[DirtyJunkieScum]

Was talking about in moderation! Lol.
SNIP
And as for the "Feeling like your brain is melting", that is rather the point of Ketamine. To chase the K-Hole. Blasting my brain was my way of dealing with a hell of a lot of stuff and forgetting the fact that I was living in a slum. It worked.

But, Like I said, Everything should be taken in moderation.

Oh come on, you know there's often a very fine line (hurr hurr) between "I'm having fun" and "oh god my brain is melting".

Bloody hell that's horrible and must involve proper abuse! Actually, a mate of ours did some much speed over such a protracted period that he ended up bruising even if lightly touched. He had leeched all the potassium out of his body which helps stop bruising to be honest. Doctor put him on supplements and suggested eating bananas too. Even that is far cry from losing your teeth and hair!

Well, yes. That's interesting, that never happened to her as far as I'm aware but then given the general state she was in at the time she might just not have noticed, though given she was injecting it I don't see how it could fail to produce bruising, that said the tissue around regular injection sites does stop bruising...so I guess I can see how it could fail to produce bruising. By the time I met her she'd been given a dex script and her hair had grown back, so at least that wasn't permanent.

Heroin addicts know what they're doing most of the time, they do it in groups so as to watch each other, a lot carry naloxone to cancel out side-effects just in case and mostly you don't start with jamming needles in your veins.

Just to point out, the vast majority of OD's come with using alcohol on top or after a detox and people just don't realise how far your tolerance can drop, you're virtually starting from scratch.

However,
direct comparison of the scores for tobacco and alcohol
with those of the other drugs is not possible since the fact
that they are legal could affect their harms in various
ways, especially through easier availability

You probably understand this, but tobacco and alcohol have many factors that mitigate the harm caused due to their legal status, nothing to do with the drugs themselves, whereas the illegal ones have far fewer.

edit: fixed quotes

Also, having had a look at those rankings in the graph...look at the opiates. Heroin being mostly illegal (not for me! Yay!) and uncontrolled is the most dangerous. Then you have methadone which typically comes in a regulated dose of liquid or pills, neither of which can be injected (you can get IV methadone but it's quite rare and on a weight for weight dose is about the same strength as heroin. Then take buprenorphine, usually comes in a tablet which is a real pig to try and inject, it's about 40 times stronger than oral morphine or about 10 times stronger than IV diamprphine gram for gram.

Why do you think heroin is ranked as so harmful whereas buprenorphine isn't? Yes, usage does affect this, personally I can't believe they didn't weight it by at least an estimate of usage, quite frankly trying to estimate the harm done by usage of a certain drug without accounting for how widespread it's usage strikes me as...hmm...lets say not as useful as it could have been.

 

[DirtyJunkieScum]

Heh, I was not going for fun! I was going for the "Brain-Melting". My period of being a heavy user was my attempt to deal with what I have since realised was a total mental breakdown caused by stress and low grade starvation.

If I think about it, I dont really think I ever had fun on drugs. Well, Bar one party. And that was more because of the situation, not the drugs.

Weed was just something to chill me out so I could keep going to college.
Ket was just something to make me forget everything that had happened at college and after college.

As for everything else, the other things people seem to love so much? Well, Bar the afforementioned party (Where we took gods knows how much of god knows what. I bit someone. Just before I got tied up. By a large black man screaming "THIS IS DEMOCRACY". Good night, heh, good night) I never really did much.

So, in closing (I really dont have much to say now it seems to be devolving into a legalisation debate. I cba with debates on the escapist)

Never did coke, did crack though, it was awesome, never will again. Drugs are drugs, whatever you take take in moderation and be prepared to lose everything and everyone you love when you need to make the choice between "Detox" and "Death".

Well, my point was more that telling people:

Ketamine... Well, it blows your mind and slows everything down. The only negative side effect would be the ket-legs. Walking around like your legs are made of jelly.

Without mentioning that the difference between:

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and:

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can be a small line is a little naughty.


Yes, heavy drug use will do that. Luckily for me, despite having lost (in many different senses) friends and girlfriends I've never turned into a complete dick and my family has always been very much willing to let me handle my own shit rather than pushing me away, which counts for a lot. Despite the fact that I have a diamorphine script I am very stable myself (in no small part due to the diamorphine script) and it often surprises drug workers that I have a fully intact family that I get on well with, the vast majority come from homes that are at least "troubled".

Also...being tied up by a large black man shouting "this is democracy"...that's some kinky shit dude

 

[FamoFunk]

I used to be a frequent user and I enjoyed it, a lot actually.

I don't do it any more because of responsibilities and stuff but I'm cool with others doing it still.

The only drugs I really dislike are Meth and Heroine.

 

[Sigmund Av Volsung]

I'm 15, and pretty much all my friends drink regularly, they'll go to parties and get hammered, and a few of them smoke weed. I don't need drugs or alcohol. I don't want them. I've seen what they can do, and it doesn't appeal to me. I'm not trying to take the moral high-ground or anything - if you enjoy that type of thing, then you go crazy, but I'll get my highs off other stuff instead. I like being able to think straight and be 100% aware of what is going on around me. Sure, you may be absolutely pissed or high and having the best time of your life, but when you wake up in A&E after having overdosed, or broken your back by doing something fucking stupid, then you'll most likely be having the worst time of your life.
But yeah, if you want to take that risk then be my guest, I'm not going to judge you, but I don't think, and never have thought, that it is worth it.

This.

Funnily enough, I'm in the same position as you are; a lot of people in my school actively drink, smoke and some even smoke cannabis on a regular basis(none of my close friends, as they have fairly similar points of view to my own). The way I see it; you do what you want to do, and I'll do whatever I want to do, I will never allow another person to force one of their "habits" on me, as I don't require alcohol or drugs to have a good time.

Also, I have seen drug abuse in action and the consequences it brings, as a result, if hard drugs like cocaine would become legalised, then the drug cartels will become either companies supplying the products or rooted into the governments/whoever deals with supplying and distribution of said durgs, as they would be unlikely to give up the monopoly they've established worldwide so easily.

 

[Vicarious Reality]

I want to brew some good old Coca leaf tea
I would try cocaine, just like i tried alcohol, but i sure will not use it chronically, it is just too dangerous as far as i know

All the yellow ones and similar substances should be legal to purchase in the manner which 40% alcohol is now in most places.
It is simply unfair that alcohol has a near monopoly on the legal drug market.

Observe alcohol here:

 

[shootthebandit]

like most of these facts say booze is the most intoxicating then stick to booze. also booze is more social you go to a bar with some mates, have a good time, feel shit the next day and repeat next friday.

illegal drugs on the other hand (because of thier legallity) tend to be more underground like hanging around in your friendly neighbourhood junkie's flat.

your call: go to a bar and get drunk, or sit in a council flat shooting up?

 

[Leadfinger]

I used to get paid to take cocaine. It was part of a medical study involving money, cocaine, and alcohol. I think the researchers were trying to test the effect of alcohol consumption on demand for cocaine. Anyway, the pharmaceutically pure coke was nice enough, but the high from a snort didn't last long.

 

[deathninja]

Got spiked with freebase once, f*cking horrible experience.

 

[KingsGambit_v1legacy]

I'm glad that cocaine and heroin are illegal. I've never touched either and never will. Those two in particular, as well as their derivatives can (and have) ruined lives through addiction, cost and death.

On the flip side, I have no issue with marijuana or MDMA. While I'm sure there are lives greatly affected by these as well, they aren't really killers or dangerously addictive. I'm for legalising marijuana in fact, to remove the shadiness and unreliability from the "business" as well as regulate and tax it. I honestly consider alcohol to be worse for a person and those around them than either of these two.

 

[DarklordKyo]

Spoiler: yes

It was delicious