Have you ever won a 'supposed to lose fight'?

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minarri

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Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 4 pisses me off because you don't even have the chance to control your character during the supposed-to-lose fights. I suspect, however, that's an aspect created in an attempt to balance out the relative ease of grinding.
 

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robodukky said:
I know this question may sound stupid to some, but I bring it up because in some games you actually can win a 'supposed to lose fight'. Usually however it ends up with your character losing anyway. Personally I have won two of said fights in games, one in Kingdom Hearts and another in Dragon Ball Z: Budokai. How about you, my fellow escapists?
The one that most recently comes to mind is the third Terran mission in Starcraft (the first one). Basically, it's a "survive for 30 seconds and then the evacuation comes" mission.

I'll admit, it was intense and difficult when I was 9, but when I recently went back to play the game again, not only did I totally fend off all the waves, but I had built roughly 15 or 20 bunkers and easily fended off the "OH SHIT" wave at 1 minute. The base hadn't even been touched, let alone overrun, yet they were still like OMFG THE DROPSHIPS ARE HERE THANKS FOR SAVING US, SONS OF KORHAL ^_^
 

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Fighting the battle of El Alamein as the germans in Blitzkrieg 1, your ment to retreat after a certain point if i remember correctly, but i was holding off the allies with ease.
Ended up retreating just so i could finish the mission.
 

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The Challenge of the Very Might in Heroes of Might and Magic V: Tribes of the East. its basically the biggest army in the entire game. if you can defeat it with the use of an extremely complex strategy, you will hit the level cap for the rest of the campaign.
 

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Well yes, in all boss fights where my character is meant to lose I'm winning, until it goes into a cutscene where I just get own for no really reason. Most reasently it was the first fight against Straga in Darksiders. I was full'o health and really kicking ass, then cutscene, and wosh I lose :mad: I understand why War, lost and why he had to lose, it just that these moment make me feel like it is my fault all the time.
 

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Zone of the Enders 2. I didn't win, but in the first fight with Anubis aboard the vessel that attacks Io, I took him down by a ridiculous amount, much further than the 15% I believed would trigger a cutscene, perhaps as low as 30 percent remaining.

Nohman would say things like: "Impossible!" constantly.
 

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First fight with Raphael on Phantom Brave.
Not particularly difficult but he is about 50 levels above what you should be and the story continues anyway if you lose.
 
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I don't know if this counts, but in Halo: Reach's first mission Winter Contingency there comes a point when you're defending a courtyard from being swamped by Covenant whilst your team tries to break into Visegrad relay. When the door is finally opened you receive the order to fall back immediately, and the rest of your team withdraw inside the bunker, during which more Covenant drop-ships are pouring troops into the courtyard. Thing is, there's only a limited number of drop-ships that appear, and if you tough it out you can clear the base of all ground units and the two Banshees doing strafing runs on the compound to leave a totally silent Covenant graveyard.

I haven't managed to clear the courtyard on Legendary yet, but on Heroic it's a piece of piss (as long as you make the Elites a top priority and remember to take cover from the Banshees!).
 

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There's a part near the end of Dragon Age where you get ambushed by a load of people. I'm pretty sure you're supposed to die as when you do you are taken to a prison and given a quest to escape. My second time through the game I beat the ambush with my Arcane Warrior.
 

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Lets see, the only ones I can think of are the Leon fight in Kingdom Hearts (as well as the Cloud fight), and the Blitzball game in FFX.
 

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Grouchy Imp said:
I don't know if this counts, but in Halo: Reach's first mission Winter Contingency there comes a point when you're defending a courtyard from being swamped by Covenant whilst your team tries to break into Visegrad relay. When the door is finally opened you receive the order to fall back immediately, and the rest of your team withdraw inside the bunker, during which more Covenant drop-ships are pouring troops into the courtyard. Thing is, there's only a limited number of drop-ships that appear, and if you tough it out you can clear the base of all ground units and the two Banshees doing strafing runs on the compound to leave a totally silent Covenant graveyard.

I haven't managed to clear the courtyard on Legendary yet, but on Heroic it's a piece of piss (as long as you make the Elites a top priority and remember to take cover from the Banshees!).
Yeah I've done that myself on Legendary, they just stop coming and the banshees fly about. I tried to hijack one but you can't.
 

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leon AND cloud in KH1, i think there was one in KH2 but cnat remember, that chick Ser Cauthrien in DAO and alot of those im wining cuts to cutscene and i lose. -_- and maybe a few more but cant remember
 
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robodukky said:
Grouchy Imp said:
I don't know if this counts, but in Halo: Reach's first mission Winter Contingency there comes a point when you're defending a courtyard from being swamped by Covenant whilst your team tries to break into Visegrad relay. When the door is finally opened you receive the order to fall back immediately, and the rest of your team withdraw inside the bunker, during which more Covenant drop-ships are pouring troops into the courtyard. Thing is, there's only a limited number of drop-ships that appear, and if you tough it out you can clear the base of all ground units and the two Banshees doing strafing runs on the compound to leave a totally silent Covenant graveyard.

I haven't managed to clear the courtyard on Legendary yet, but on Heroic it's a piece of piss (as long as you make the Elites a top priority and remember to take cover from the Banshees!).
Yeah I've done that myself on Legendary, they just stop coming and the banshees fly about. I tried to hijack one but you can't.
The best way of taking down the Banshees is to shoot them with the charge-up shot from the Covvie plasma pistol then stick them with a few plasma grenades after they crash. It's not like there's a shortage of either after the courtyard has been cleared!

Do you know if there's a similar limit to the dropships outside the Sabre facility? I got curious about that the other day but got bored after five dropships and went inside.

EDIT - Bloody well done on the Legendary clearance, by the way!
 

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Kayevcee said:
Wing Commander 3. If you decide to chase after an excaping traitor you delay your carrier's departure and they get mobbed by Kilrathi fighters, leading to the death of Optimistic Wide-Eyed Rookie. However, I dispatched the traitor and double-timed it back to the carrier to take out the attacking fighters and Rookie survived. I even called him on the radio and he said he was fine. Then I landed and got the "that kid died because you ran off like a twat!" cutscene. How? Did he botch his landing?

Later on I played the "protect the superweapon" mission about 20 times before I gave up and just let the thing get blown up before finding out its destruction was an important plot point.

I thought the game was amazing at the time, but if anything like it came out now I'd probably chuck it out the window.

-Nick
That was my first emotional experience with a game, I don't remember much of that game except the traitor and the final mission. Oh and Mark Hamill's shoddy acting. Thanks for the nostalgia blast!
 

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Grouchy Imp said:
robodukky said:
Grouchy Imp said:
I don't know if this counts, but in Halo: Reach's first mission Winter Contingency there comes a point when you're defending a courtyard from being swamped by Covenant whilst your team tries to break into Visegrad relay. When the door is finally opened you receive the order to fall back immediately, and the rest of your team withdraw inside the bunker, during which more Covenant drop-ships are pouring troops into the courtyard. Thing is, there's only a limited number of drop-ships that appear, and if you tough it out you can clear the base of all ground units and the two Banshees doing strafing runs on the compound to leave a totally silent Covenant graveyard.

I haven't managed to clear the courtyard on Legendary yet, but on Heroic it's a piece of piss (as long as you make the Elites a top priority and remember to take cover from the Banshees!).
Yeah I've done that myself on Legendary, they just stop coming and the banshees fly about. I tried to hijack one but you can't.
The best way of taking down the Banshees is to shoot them with the charge-up shot from the Covvie plasma pistol then stick them with a few plasma grenades after they crash. It's not like there's a shortage of either after the courtyard has been cleared!

Do you know if there's a similar limit to the dropships outside the Sabre facility? I got curious about that the other day but got bored after five dropships and went inside.

EDIT - Bloody well done on the Legendary clearance, by the way!
Thank you, and is the Sabre facility the one with drop pods and wraiths on the sides? If so, then yes I have tried and also got bored after about 10 dropships.
 

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The first level of Ace Combat 6 where all of the Strigon team appear (the enemy team of Aces). You're meant to retreat from them, but I took them all out quickly (the last plane you get is hilariously broken).
 
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robodukky said:
Thank you, and is the Sabre facility the one with drop pods and wraiths on the sides? If so, then yes I have tried and also got bored after about 10 dropships.
Yeah, it is. Looks like that one really is an 'impossible to win' fight then.
 

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DBZ Tenkaichi I had to deliberatly hold back and use cheap spammy atacks so I didn't kill them.

Other than that not really.