Have you heard of a "Homosexual Therapist?"

[Mandalore_15]

Sounds like a fairly stand-up guy to be honest. Sexual confusion is one of the worst/most annoying afflictions a person can have... for everybody else.

Seriously, I've known a few sexually confused people over the years and it really has driven them to a beyond-acceptable point of self-importance and douchebaggery. In my school, one guy claimed discrimination against the school because they would not allow him to register without assigning a gender to himself... He also campaigned to get unisex toilets even though none of the girls wanted them, and physically attacked a guy when he overheard him talking about an article he'd read in the paper about how homosexuality might be down to your genetics.

I've known quite a number of other people that have acted in equally neurotic and self-absorbed ways due to the same problem. Seriously, get them some fucking help.

 

[vic_elor]

Being bisexual is hard (trust me, I know from experience) and for some just spotting it might be a challenge. "Oh, I like boys... I must be gay. Hey look, I like girls now so now I'm straight!" People want to be one thing or the other because culture at large doesn't take a third choice serious (whether we're talking sexuality or American politics).

The therapist in question with his whole "dealing with childhood experiences" idea makes him sound very psychoanalytical in nature ("A man is the son to the child.") That has some validity but I suspect he's more or less just muddying the waters. Being bisexual but suddenly having bad male/male memories up in the front of your mind suddenly (and not surprisingly) pushes your choices towards women. That doesn't make him straight.

 

[Doclector]

Well, it seems to me like he has good intentions. I mean perhaps it's possible that you could be gay either by nature or nurture, like many personality aspects, and it's not as if he's forcing people to take his treatment.

 

[Saelune]

Well, he is a fool. But...if people want to ruin their lives on their own, thats their issue. As long as all people who get "cured" are willing, then let them be as dumb as every alchoholic and smoker.
Who am I to force you to be happy?
However the whole practice is barbaric and wrong and to FORCE someone into it should be a crime comparable to psycological torture.

 

[Gudrests]

He just needs to change his job description.

He's a "Sexuality Confirmation Consultant".

That sounds like if your not getting any you go to him and he either helps you get some, or tells you an awesome story about this onetime in vegas.....

Honestly It's a choice thing...If he is saying don't hate on the gays if they want to be gay thats good, But some people might have gay urges and just dont want to have them and don't think that is the true them. More power to you if you want to get your life undercontrol and not feel bad about something you don't want to feel.

 

[JochemDude]

That could so be a show on Fox.
Also we have already all agreed on the bullshit factor of this guy, so... yep

 

[Use_Imagination_here]

So why does the gay movement hate him? I don't see any rational reason to. He is helping people isn't he?

 

[haloman13]

So, because I'm closer to my mother than my step-father, I'm going to be a lesbian? It doesn't make sense.

I'm somewhat confused by what he means by "unwanted gay feelings".[/quote

Its probably the other way around for women, being close with your dad turns you into a lesbian tomboy or somthing

 

[BarbaricGoose]

I chuckled at the "Sexually absurd" bit. iPad's hard at work, it seems.

Anyway, I've heard of many therapists like this. I think they're bullshit, but who am I to pretend that I know what's going on in their head? I'd be just as bad as them if I did that.

 

[Hagi]

I believe that, like every other damn thing about being human, it's both a matter of genetic AND environmental effects. Everything else about being human is, so therefor sexuality must as well. Now I'm religious, so I can see why some people see it as strictly environmental, and hey, it may be for you, you may not even be happy about it, so you should have the option of talking it out to see if that's what you actually want to be. However, I'm also Bisexual, so I can see how some people believe its solely genetics (Gaga, I'm looking at you.) which simply said, cannot be wholly true, I'm sorry. Long story short, yeah, I consider him valid, because he isn't FORCING people to change like other hypocritical people, both religious and otherwise.

The beautiful thing about real genetics is that they adapt based on our environment. Our body is capable of dynamically switching certain genes on and off under certain conditions.

It starts during the pregnancy where genes are switched on and off to, for example, give a predisposition towards the storage of fat and such based on the amount of nutrients received.
During childhood genes are switched on and off to, for example, give a predisposition to behaviour based on the amount and type of social interaction a child receives.

And this continues, as far as I know, your entire life. Although at later ages much less with far lesser effects. It's known for certain that your brain keeps developing your entire life. Only at about 30 or so it matured and even after that it keeps adapting.

As far as modern psychology and neurology goes the nature vs nurture debate is long over. It's both, your nature influences your nurture which influences your nature etc. The two are so interconnected that it's impossible to distinguish between them. Our nurture is our nature and our nature is our nurture.

OT: As far as this guy goes. He would be correct in saying that past events could influence a lot of things, including his sexuality. Child abuse has an extreme effect and forces a child into a vastly different development track, a change of sexuality could be a side-effect from this.

But it's certainly not the only determinant in sexuality. Some research has for example shown that sisters, aunts and mothers of gay men are more fertile then average. It's for example possible that a different sexuality is a completely natural and even logical reaction to this, more children would require more caretakers. Those caretakers couldn't have children of their own or they'd be too busy to help out. But this paragraph is thus far only correlation, the above is current scientific theory though (or probably even further ahead).

 

[AngloDoom]

Not sure what I think of this, to be honest.

My theory of sexuality is that people are on a sliding bar, with heterosexuality on one side and homosexuality on the other. Some people prefer to have opposite-gender partners but wouldn't be unable to have a same-sex relationship. I see it a bit strange that people very neatly fall into one of three categories.

Then again, that might just be the world through my eyes.

 

[Valksy]

Ex-gay ministries are largely de-bunked as bullshit. But if consenting and competent adults want to nail themselves up in to the closet and live a dishonest, miserable and inauthentic life, then I truly could not give a fuck about them. Any more than I could give a fuck about an out GLBTQ person who flagellates themselves twice nightly over the bible.

I will seek to protect the young and vulnerable from pressure against them. See what George Rekers dif, for example. There is NO harm to be found in living an authentic life (unless you give a damn about the collected campfire tales of a bunch of bronze age nomads who wouldn't explain why the sun rose).

The whole "choice" and "ex-gay" memberment has ONE purpose. To enable other to take away our legal rights and recognitions. That is why so many scream s lout about sexual orientation being nothing like colour. Well, to a lot of us it is an INNATE characteristic and the small-minded power hungry few will always seek to enact their sense of personal disenfranchisement by picking on someone that they perceive as a lesser human being, and if they can illustrate that lesser status as "choice" then ever better for them as it sheds the label of bigot and hatemonger....

Except ex-gay treatments are de-bunked as snake oil. As bullshit. As having no grounding in modern psychiatry. Some ex-gay men or women may have been...GASP... bisexual, and have been guided strongly to a preference. But not realising that just shows those con-artists for the crooks that they are.

Put it this way - if you are not gay, no one is going to make you gay, no one minds if you are not gay, no one is going to deny you legal rights, goods, services because you are not gay SO HOW ABOUT DOING US THE SAME FUCKING COURTESY.

 

[jonoortrev]

This seems to almost bear along the same lines as 'OMG I'm bisexual as I'm a 14 year old girl and held another girls hand' logic. It has I'm fairly sure been proved that genetics plays some role in sexuality, as the fact there's many species on animal kingdom that can be gay, and not all of them have strong sentiency (feel free to refer to me as a moron on the wron parts in that statement). Anyway slightly off topic there, my point is that some people are unsure, some people won't be. However the deciding factor (especially in men) if you see a guy naked and you get aroused, have a guess at what that means, if you don't, it shouldn't take a genius to figure what that also means, if both make you feel the same way, hurray you're both or neither.

 

[Simriel]

Moral of the story: Dude is probably bisexual and doesn't want to admit it.

I do think that after enough "therapy" and having enough ideas drilled into your head, the attraction to the same sex could probably be partially eliminated or at least masked. But, it's pointless since it's not like homosexuality is something that needs to be treated in the first place.

Bisexuality is FUN!

 

[Ziadaine_v1legacy]

I have:

Spoiler

Jokes aside, There is no such cure, therapy etc. You are, simply, who you are. Nothing can change that, no therapist, doctor, religion etc. (excluding fire)

I really hope in the next few years humanity all over can learn to accept that simple little fact, but we're humans, so chances are it just wont happen.