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dragsaw

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first yes i know this is the third time i made this etc etc,

but from all i can find out is that the pyro sounds like he can murder anything early game, the Thief will get rofl-stomed buy anything, and the Knight will be to slow and heavy to get out of the of traps and boss 1-Hko moves,

yes i do know i will die a lot in this game but i have never killed Taurus (yes i suck that bad)
So more or less i dont know what hell i am doing in this game
 

Skin

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Make sure your shield blocks 100% physical damage. That allows you to block all of the Taurus Demons attacks if you have full stamina. Try to run through his legs, even if it blocks you, keep moving into them because he steps forward to attack. When your dropping on him, go 2 handed and use gold pine resin on your weapon. This does alot more damage.

I didnt have that much trouble against the Taurus Demon on my first time through, but the Undead Burg thoroughly kicked my ass and I couldn't even get to him without kindling the bonfire.
 

Bebus

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I would say the biggest reason for most of my Dark Souls deaths was the fear of dying.

For example, The Taurus Demon. The first few times I spent my time running away from him in fear and he stomped me. But then I realised since I am probably going to die anyway, I might as well go for it. I got under his feet and started on his ankles like a little poodle. His attacks couldn't really hit me because his hammer is so big. And lo and behold it died!! Similarly most 'everyday' enemies; instead of blocking and waiting my turn, I learned how to parry properly (practice on the enemies around the bonfire before Taurus) and most enemies were dead in one hit. You can level up a bit around here as well.

For your first run through I would go with what you heard: Pyromancer is a great first build because pyromancy does not need any stats raised to be any good and is a very powerful ranged tool, meaning you can focus on 'melee' stats, building a very tough character, without sacrificing other capabilities.

Otherwise, just keep at it!!
 

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dragsaw said:
Monkeyman O said:
Go online and watch videos on how to take out each enemy.

did that as well
That one seemed awfully roundabout anyways. You can get back to the ladder without running halfway across the bridge by dodge rolling around his legs and once you're up there you don't have to have a running start (seems like that only increases the chance to die by missing a jump) you can just drop off the ledge and do the plunging attack.

I can get behind the statements about Thief and Pyro though 'cause first time i played Dark Souls i tried as a Thief and said "fuck it" after pretty much getting out of the asylum. Started as a Pyromancer last friday and without even playing everyday i arrived in Anor Londo yesterday.

I guess a general tip is to just try to remain level-headed because rushing can only get you so far before you're overwhelmed and sometimes the game got me really pissed off because there were parts that got my rage on and i couldn't charge because that only lead to a swift death -.-'
 

krazykidd

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Roll , roll like your life depends on it . You can roll through his legs. I didn't know about the tower trick on my first playthrough . Try not to use your pyro skills before getting to the boss and just spam them . I don't know what you are doing wrong , but there must be something . You shouldn't have his much trouble with the first boss. This might sound harsh but if no matter what you do you can't kill him , this might not be the game for you , and give up. I hope it doesb't come to that though . Also make SURE to use a shield and always block.
 

Section Crow

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keep on rolling rolling rolling, keep on rolling rolling rolling that's whatcha going to do now!

*ahem* learn to parry to save on the estus flasks and down mobs fast, for bosses failure is the best road to success and if all else fails, fail some more but specifically for the taurus if you really can't kill him via plunge attack spam lure him onto the tower and fight him there as it has more room to maneuver
 

The Wykydtron

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Thief sucks? Looks like converting my Thief into a sword/shield Knight guy was the right choice then...

Oh does anyone know where the second bell is? New Londo Ruins is where i'm looking at the moment but the Troll Ghosts are being bitches and want an excuse to say "fuck it i'm leaving you."

And I suppose i shouldn't kill every non-hostile person i meet right? Yeahhhhhh no. They have good loot! I'm not gonna kill the forge guys though, i'm not that retarded.

Again is upgrading shields worth it? And was upgrading my Uchigatana to +4 a good idea? I wanna go through the entire game with it but it's probably gonna go obsolete soon... :(
 

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The Wykydtron said:
Thief sucks? Looks like converting my Thief into a sword/shield Knight guy was the right choice then...

Oh does anyone know where the second bell is? New Londo Ruins is where i'm looking at the moment but the Troll Ghosts are being bitches and want an excuse to say "fuck it i'm leaving you."

And I suppose i shouldn't kill every non-hostile person i meet right? Yeahhhhhh no. They have good loot! I'm not gonna kill the forge guys though, i'm not that retarded.

Again is upgrading shields worth it? And was upgrading my Uchigatana to +4 a good idea? I wanna go through the entire game with it but it's probably gonna go obsolete soon... :(
You have to get to the depths and fight your way to blight town.

Or If you have the master key go down the elevator at firelink shrine that takes you to New Londo Ruins, there is a tower to the right, go in there. If you open the door it'll be the valley of drakes, go over the bridge and into that area and you'll be in blight town, the most annoying place ever. Get all the way down to the bottom and at the upper right area of the map you'll see a spiky hill, there is where you need to go...

Before head for the spike hill though hit the bonfire, if you went down the area the right way it should be in a tunnel looking thing with 2 spiders outside of it.
 

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The Wykydtron said:
Oh does anyone know where the second bell is? New Londo Ruins is where i'm looking at the moment but the Troll Ghosts are being bitches and want an excuse to say "fuck it i'm leaving you."
Blighttown. Enter the Undead Burg Slums -> Depths -> BT to get there.

And I suppose i shouldn't kill every non-hostile person i meet right? Yeahhhhhh no. They have good loot! I'm not gonna kill the forge guys though, i'm not that retarded.
If you found that gold-armored guy in the Parish, either kill him right away, or wait for him to appear in Firelink Shrine and kill him there. He drops one of the best rings in the game for melee builds, and if you ring the Blighttown bell, he'll kill the fire keeper in firelink shrine.
Him and the Uchigatana-guy are the only ones that there are any point in killing imo, the rest can be handy.

Again is upgrading shields worth it?
Regular ones? No reason not to, it's not expensive. A bit more iffy if you need Twinkling Titanite though, but if you're planning to use them, then why not?
And was upgrading my Uchigatana to +4 a good idea? I wanna go through the entire game with it but it's probably gonna go obsolete soon... :(
From what I know, you can go through the entire game with it. Just keep in mind that the stat it scales best with is dexterity.
I also believe you should upgrade it as an elemental(lightning?) weapon later, although I'm not quite sure how that works and what's smartest here.
 

Bruenin

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If you have the master key, make sure you get the gold pine resin. If you still can't do it, go to the graveyard and make a suicide dash and pick up all the items. You'll come across a 2 handed sword. Power level strength to 24, use the resin and the very first plunge attack with mark his health down by half. Roll to the ladder and climb up it while he is stunned. Hit him again and you win.

That's how I beat him the very first time.
 

Bruenin

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Naeras said:
The Wykydtron said:
Oh does anyone know where the second bell is? New Londo Ruins is where i'm looking at the moment but the Troll Ghosts are being bitches and want an excuse to say "fuck it i'm leaving you."
Blighttown. Enter the Undead Burg Slums -> Depths -> BT to get there.

And I suppose i shouldn't kill every non-hostile person i meet right? Yeahhhhhh no. They have good loot! I'm not gonna kill the forge guys though, i'm not that retarded.
If you found that gold-armored guy in the Parish, either kill him right away, or wait for him to appear in Firelink Shrine and kill him there. He drops one of the best rings in the game for melee builds, and if you ring the Blighttown bell, he'll kill the fire keeper in firelink shrine.
Him and the Uchigatana-guy are the only ones that there are any point in killing imo, the rest can be handy.

Again is upgrading shields worth it?
Regular ones? No reason not to, it's not expensive. A bit more iffy if you need Twinkling Titanite though, but if you're planning to use them, then why not?
And was upgrading my Uchigatana to +4 a good idea? I wanna go through the entire game with it but it's probably gonna go obsolete soon... :(
From what I know, you can go through the entire game with it. Just keep in mind that the stat it scales best with is dexterity.
I also believe you should upgrade it as an elemental(lightning?) weapon later, although I'm not quite sure how that works and what's smartest here.
Elemental upgrade take away stat scaling, so if you don't plan on pumping up one stat go for it. Although I use boss weapons so I don't even bother with all that enchanting stuff.

I have the stat system and everything figured out but they really need to have something on it, like how was anyone supposed to figure out that raising dexterity decreases how long it takes to cast sorceries and pyromancies!?
 

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dragsaw said:
first yes i know this is the third time i made this etc etc,

but from all i can find out is that the pyro sounds like he can murder anything early game, the Thief will get rofl-stomed buy anything, and the Knight will be to slow and heavy to get out of the of traps and boss 1-Hko moves,

yes i do know i will die a lot in this game but i have never killed Taurus (yes i suck that bad)
So more or less i dont know what hell i am doing in this game
Knight may be slow initially, but he's got great defenses. He can take hits that will normally 1 shot squishier builds, even from bosses. Not by much, but sometimes that extra defense means the difference between surviving with a smidgen of HP, and being 1 shotted.

Pump up your endurance early on, and he's just as agile as any other armored build.

Pyromancy is a sort of "boss destroyer", but there's the issue of dealing with the cannon fodder on the way to the boss. you're still going to need a good weapon.

Honestly your starting build doesn't really matter after the gargoyles. The game gives you complete control over your character's stats, so you can take it any direction you want to go. Just remember, the game favors diversity. Adapting to the right build for the right scenario will make it infinitely easier than trying to force your cloth based character to tank hits with his face. it can be done, but you're in for a world of pain unless you got the skill to back up your stubborness.
 

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dragsaw said:
first yes i know this is the third time i made this etc etc,

but from all i can find out is that the pyro sounds like he can murder anything early game, the Thief will get rofl-stomed buy anything, and the Knight will be to slow and heavy to get out of the of traps and boss 1-Hko moves,

yes i do know i will die a lot in this game but i have never killed Taurus (yes i suck that bad)
So more or less i dont know what hell i am doing in this game
Keep close to him, stay as near as possible to his groin.
When he attack, roll towards him. You,ll dodge the attack and have a second to hit him a few times. You might even end up behind you, giving you more time to hit him.

BTW, what's you character/equipment?
 

Skin

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The Wykydtron said:
Thief sucks? Looks like converting my Thief into a sword/shield Knight guy was the right choice then...

Oh does anyone know where the second bell is? New Londo Ruins is where i'm looking at the moment but the Troll Ghosts are being bitches and want an excuse to say "fuck it i'm leaving you."

And I suppose i shouldn't kill every non-hostile person i meet right? Yeahhhhhh no. They have good loot! I'm not gonna kill the forge guys though, i'm not that retarded.

Again is upgrading shields worth it? And was upgrading my Uchigatana to +4 a good idea? I wanna go through the entire game with it but it's probably gonna go obsolete soon... :(
Thief doesn't suck, but going through the whole game with a bandits knife is pretty stupid. As someone else said, the PvE aspect of the game rewards diversity. And pure dex + Bandit knife players will have a much, much harder time. Trust me, I took much longer than most people did on their first time through because I did 70+% of this game with a damn bandit knife.

Don't kill every NPC. Some are merchants that sell really cool stuff that you can easily afford late game when your raking the souls in. Before you start NG+, go ahead and murder every. Just not at the start.

Upgrading shields is not worth it, unless it is a greatshield, in which case it might be. Always upgrade weapons. Items >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stats in this game. Get that Uchigatana to +10, and then make it a lightning uchigatana, which is probably one of the best non-boss weapons in the game (arguably the best weapon in the game). Always upgrade the weapons you plan on using. And make sure you visit the basement and then the depths so you can retrieve the embers necessary.
 

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Skin said:
Upgrading shields is not worth it, unless it is a greatshield, in which case it might be. Always upgrade weapons. Items >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stats in this game. Get that Uchigatana to +10, and then make it a lightning uchigatana, which is probably one of the best non-boss weapons in the game (arguably the best weapon in the game). Always upgrade the weapons you plan on using. And make sure you visit the basement and then the depths so you can retrieve the embers necessary.
Upgrading shields is very much worth it. It usually increases their stability, and that means less stamina lost when blocking.
Oh, and the regular upgrade path is better if you have the stats to scale with the weapon (since it's better to go through one type of defense than two). Plus, you can't buff elemental weapons!
 

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dragsaw said:
first yes i know this is the third time i made this etc etc,

but from all i can find out is that the pyro sounds like he can murder anything early game, the Thief will get rofl-stomed buy anything, and the Knight will be to slow and heavy to get out of the of traps and boss 1-Hko moves,

yes i do know i will die a lot in this game but i have never killed Taurus (yes i suck that bad)
So more or less i dont know what hell i am doing in this game

Pyromancy has its advantages, but also failings. Fewer charges, short ranges, and they ONLY scale with the level of your Flame -expect to spend a LOT of souls to get some real power behind your casting. As others have said, Pyromancy is best used to take huge chunks out of boss health.

Thieves are not pansies. At least, not any more than any other class. Remember: SPEED AND MOBILITY WILL ALWAYS OUTCLASS A TANK. The best defense against damage in Dark Souls is to not get hit in the first place. Want to be good with the Knight early on? Take off some of your armor until you can get your endurance up to snuff.

If you're tired of getting wasted, but need some time to get used to the game and improve your skills, there's a very simple two-step combo to help you out: Hollow Soldier Shield and the Winged Spear. The HSS is a 100% phys medium shield with a light weight and decent fire resist, and can be dropped by any zombie in the Undead Burg/Parish that carries a shield. The winged Spear can be found in the graveyard off the Firelink Shrine -don't bother fighting the skeletons, just rush through everything, snag the Spear, and run back to the bonfire. They'll stop chasing you when you rest. Spears are an awesome starting weapon; they have crap damage output but you can attack with your shield up. It'll help train you for other weapons -wait for an enemy to stagger themselves hitting your shield then poke them while they're open. Always be patient. Always be observant.

As for the Taurus Demon, just creep forward until he spawns then rush back and climb the tower (kill the guys up there the moment you enter the fog gate). Once he's right below you, lock on and do a plunging attack onto his head. Get out of the way and run to the opposite side of the walkway, then roll around him and rush back to the ladder. Repeat until he's dead. With the Winged Spear it should take three plunging attacks to end him, less if you use resin for a damage boost.

Skin said:
Upgrading shields is not worth it
Bullcrap. Upgrading your shield increases its Stability. Even small Stability boosts are awesome. Just don't bother Ascending it to an elemental path, because the resistance boosts tend to be crap.