Haven't I seen this gimmick before?

[Mr.Pandah]

Project Natal? You were beaten by the Wii.
Wii? You were beaten by the EyeToy.

Do I have to point out that the Wii and the Eye Toy have virtually nothing in common.

Oh I don't know, waving your arms around in front of a screen is the basic principle behind both of them.
And most of their games all rely heavily on waggle.

Except that you're essentially suggesting that your TV remote is the same as your webcam, when you know they are two completely different things.

The method of input is the same.
A story is a story whether it's told through a book or a television.
[sub]That's probably a really bad analogy.[/sub]

If we're going to stretch this line of logic out even more, you might as well just say that the Eye Toy was a rip-off of video cameras. And every FPS is a rip off of Doom. Or Blake Stone. Whichever you want to harken back to. I prefer Blake.

ehhh wii fanbois? Honestly, after owning the wii, it's nothing more than a glorified eye toy.

ehhh being a bit presumptuous?

I'm hardly a fanboy of that system, but saying its essentially an eyetoy is just...wrong.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

ehhh wii fanbois? Honestly, after owning the wii, it's nothing more than a glorified eye toy.

Don't label me dickhead, I just despise ignorance. And the Wii is a glorified eye toy the way your mouse is a VR helmet.

Project Natal? You were beaten by the Wii.
Wii? You were beaten by the EyeToy.

Do I have to point out that the Wii and the Eye Toy have virtually nothing in common.

Oh I don't know, waving your arms around in front of a screen is the basic principle behind both of them.
And most of their games all rely heavily on waggle.

Except that you're essentially suggesting that your TV remote is the same as your webcam, when you know they are two completely different things.

The method of input is the same.
A story is a story whether it's told through a book or a television.
[sub]That's probably a really bad analogy.[/sub]

No, any time a book is adapted to television or movies much is lost in the translation, and you end up with fans of the original book whining on Internet forums about how they "ruined it".
Besides what does that have to do with anything?

 

[AWC Viper]

Every GTA clone.

I disagree. There was a game I used to play in which you could steal cars and kill people and that was long before the top down GTA came out.

oh, really? well i didn't know that.

ummm. juiced, Need for speed did it.

 

[Blackdoom]

The gravity gun thing from DOOM 3 Resurrection Of Evil.

 

[TsunamiWombat]

John Woo came before Max Payne came before Every Other Game With Bullet-Time

 

[Deleted]

Mario and his fire flower invented third person shooting.

 

[Pegghead]

Y'know how people ALWAYS say that castle wolfenstein 3D was the one which ultimately revolutionised first person games...Hovertank and catacombs, did it all before you, gna gna gna gna gna gna (Mainly doing this with extreme sarcasm).

 

[Areck]

Project Natal? You were beaten by the Wii.
Wii? You were beaten by the EyeToy.

Do I have to point out that the Wii and the Eye Toy have virtually nothing in common.

Oh I don't know, waving your arms around in front of a screen is the basic principle behind both of them.
And most of their games all rely heavily on waggle.

Except that you're essentially suggesting that your TV remote is the same as your webcam, when you know they are two completely different things.

The method of input is the same.
A story is a story whether it's told through a book or a television.
[sub]That's probably a really bad analogy.[/sub]

If we're going to stretch this line of logic out even more, you might as well just say that the Eye Toy was a rip-off of video cameras. And every FPS is a rip off of Doom. Or Blake Stone. Whichever you want to harken back to. I prefer Blake.

ehhh wii fanbois? Honestly, after owning the wii, it's nothing more than a glorified eye toy.

Sounds kind of ignorant, The eye toy is a camera that recognizes movement, the wii remote has a infared sensor bar and accelerometers (3 if your using the Motion +, I think). Tech is very different, both of which have advantages but aren't suited to gaming, yet. My bets on accelerometers over cameras.

Anyways, gimmicks, Spin jump from New Super Mario Bros. Wii. I liked the way it was in Super Mario...land? (I forget which, the one with the yoshis and the star place and ya).

 

[Valiance]

If we're going to stretch this line of logic out even more, you might as well just say that the Eye Toy was a rip-off of video cameras. And every FPS is a rip off of Doom. Or Blake Stone. Whichever you want to harken back to. I prefer Blake.

Blake Stone was a total conversion of the Wolfenstein 3D engine. It added floor and ceiling textures though, was pretty advanced at the time.

 

[Aesir23]

I honestly feel this way for all FPS's, aren't there enough of them out there? In my opinion there really is well over enough. I don't mind playing them, it's just... there's so much of them out already and it seems like they're just pouring out endlessly.

That's exactly one of the reasons why I'm saving for a PS3, so I can have a little more variety in my game library (I'm not saying that the PS3 has more variety, but since my family already has a 360, it'll mean access to more games, meaning greater variety).

I'm tired of all the FPS's >_<

 

[Dr. Love]

Project Natal? You were beaten by the Wii.
Wii? You were beaten by the EyeToy.

Do I have to point out that the Wii and the Eye Toy have virtually nothing in common.

Oh I don't know, waving your arms around in front of a screen is the basic principle behind both of them.
And most of their games all rely heavily on waggle.

Except that you're essentially suggesting that your TV remote is the same as your webcam, when you know they are two completely different things.

The method of input is the same.
A story is a story whether it's told through a book or a television.
[sub]That's probably a really bad analogy.[/sub]

If we're going to stretch this line of logic out even more, you might as well just say that the Eye Toy was a rip-off of video cameras. And every FPS is a rip off of Doom. Or Blake Stone. Whichever you want to harken back to. I prefer Blake.

ehhh wii fanbois? Honestly, after owning the wii, it's nothing more than a glorified eye toy.

Sounds kind of ignorant, The eye toy is a camera that recognizes movement, the wii remote has a infared sensor bar and accelerometers (3 if your using the Motion +, I think). Tech is very different, both of which have advantages but aren't suited to gaming, yet. My bets on accelerometers over cameras.

Anyways, gimmicks, Spin jump from New Super Mario Bros. Wii. I liked the way it was in Super Mario...land? (I forget which, the one with the yoshis and the star place and ya).

super mario world i believe, sorry just recently started playing around with emulators specifically a SNES one, that was the second game i downloaded

 

[kawaiiamethist]

Having to encircle enemies to initiate battle in Last Remnant. I saw it first in Blue Dragon where it worked very well, especially as enemies could also fight certain enemies. But it was tedious in LR and didn't feel necessary.

 

[Dys]

Halo was a crap version of almost any PC shooter. Descibing it to people at the time went something along the lines of: "Imagine, like, Quake, but MUCH slower. And without a mouse/keyboard. And with plastic looking weapons. Oh yeah, and imagine that if you get hurt, you can go hide for a second or two and be fine. Yeah I wouldn't bother, talk to you on TS."

I know that halo bashing makes you cool and all, and flamebait is particularly easy to throw out but do you think maybe the topic is about specific gimmicks, not poor games within a genre?

OT: gimmicks eh, should I say...hmmmm...Horizons, which was an mmo who's selling card was based around playing as a dragon. I hear spyro did that a while ago.

 

[MGlBlaze]

Personally, I think every motion-control system has and will get old. They're cool for a while, but they're not much good for 'hardcore' games that suffer from the spastic immersion-breaking physical movements. It breaks the immersion even if it isn't necessarily spastic movement. That's just me, though.