Darth Mobius said:
Really? In bootcamp we carried M1 Garands and they weighed about 15 Pounds... M16s are Heavier... So yes, it is heavy for a CIVILIAN rifle, but a military issue one, not so much...
Which military were you in, or what rifle do you shoot, that is so much less?
The M16 - and certainly the M4 - is renowned for its light weight, and the Garand was retired from general service in the mid-sixties. Modern military rifles seldom exceed 5kg - around 11lb, I suppose - and most are under 4kg. The AK5 I was issued in Sweden, for instance, weighed 4.5kg and, at 1.01m, was considered a heavy and unwieldy rifle. Lovely on the range, though, and really not inconveniently heavy except when climbing in and out of vehicles. The current incarnation has been significantly lightened.
Trivun said:
I've played plenty of FPS and 3rd person shooters, and I know my way around weapons and such, and I'm a pretty good shot IRL. However, that's got nothing to do with games, but because I learned (at school, no less, and bear in mind this is the UK) how to fire weapons, recognise weapons and aircraft, I had military style weapons training and I can strip down and maintain and L-96 standard issue rifle as used by the UK military in Iraq and Afgahnistan.
CCF(Air)? Ex-ATC, myself, great times.
It's worth noting, though, that the L96 is the AI sniper rifle; I suspect you're thinking of the L98 Cadet GP rifle, part of the SA80 family. The standard issue rifle - which the L98 is based on, granted - is the L85 Individual Weapon.
MiserableOldGit said:
You do get some interesting parrallels between the virtual and real world though; on Brothers in Arms I'd ditch my tommy gun in favour of a german MP5 - my military nut friend later told me that troops in WW2 often did this.
Yes, except it was the Erma MP38/MP40, often erroneously called the "Schmeisser", that they used to scavenge. The MP5 is a (relatively) modern submachinegun made by Heckler & Koch; it was first introduced in the late 60s, and has only recently started to be superseded in effectiveness by newer designs.
madbird-valiant said:
I'm sort of like this. I actually know a lot about guns though. I'm somewhat of a nut. Never actually fired one, but I know the different types off by heart, etc.
What, all of them?
Ashbax said:
Actually driving irl is harder than fecking racing games >
and also, Smoke on water riff is easy >.>
Easy for someone with a basic knowledge of playing guitars, perhaps. I'm a drummer - I'm not supposed to know how to play music.
As for the driving, though... I've always found that while I drive pretty well in real life, even in high-performance cars on the rare occasions I've had the opportunity to try them, in games I seem to develop a passionate affair with any wall, tree, roadsign or other car that crosses my path. It's even worse with a USB steering wheel plugged in - it feels nothing like driving a car, and the lack of tactile feedback on the pedals is frustrating.
Deef said:
Oh I just love the people who obsess about the military when they are extremely out of shape and overweight. It makes me laugh.
Depends how they obsess. I'm ex-military and slightly obsessive, but nowadays I'm incredibly out of shape and slowly but surely heading for "overweight". There are many ways to obsess, and only the "I'd be a brilliant 1337 d3l7a whatever" type is really silly. ;-)
