Hellsing/Alucard (Just any overpower person really)

[IceStar100]

Ok I admit it I just don?t get the appeal. In Anime there people like Alucard from Hellsing. In Role-Playing there the wearwolves from vampire the mascurade.
I don?t get why people like these people. I?m going to pick on Alucard because he?s most likely the most well known sorry vampy dude.

Anyway he let the other guy beat him to a pulp then break a seal a bam he?s a walking god. Even Dragon Ball super people lost sometimes. Al never in any danger. It just comes off as so boring. Never have I been on the edge of my chair. Can some one please explain his draw.

(Yeah I know this will likely end with me more flamed then the sun. Still maybe someone can give me an answer.)

 

[oliveira8]

Alucard is based on Bram Stoker Dracula. Alucard powers are Dracula powers. Expect the morphing into a Shoggoth thing.

Dracula never dies and has more supernatural powers than you have fingers, so the same principle is applied to Alucard from Hellsing.

But Japanese like to make everything look over the top so they inflated him more. Alucard is just a victim of an already overpowered character more overpowered.

And Alucard is awesome shut up!

Edit: To further my point. In the manga(And OVA series) Alucard is-and to summarize- bored out of his mind and he is looking for someone to come along and kill him. SO he usually lets other baddies get a shot at him so he can recognize them as potencial enemies.

All of the baddies Alucard encounters suck, so when he breaks the seal, no one can match his powers, ending with disapointment.

Spoiler: Regarding Dracula and Hellsing endings

And due that he is based on Dracula, he never dies. Van Helsing on the book, wasn't even sure he killed Dracula at the end, and states that he will probably just rise again someday.

Alucard does die, but comes back years after the events of the manga, which goes back to the roots of Dracula itself. He just can't be killed.

 

[Mstrswrd]

Ok I admit it I just don?t get the appeal. In Anime there people like Alucard from Hellsing. In Role-Playing there the wearwolves from vampire the mascurade.
I don?t get why people like these people. I?m going to pick on Alucard because he?s most likely the most well known sorry vampy dude.

Anyway he let the other guy beat him to a pulp then break a seal a bam he?s a walking god. Even Dragon Ball super people lost sometimes. Al never in any danger. It just comes off as so boring. Never have I been on the edge of my chair. Can some one please explain his draw.

(Yeah I know this will likely end with me more flamed then the sun. Still maybe someone can give me an answer.)

You think that's bad, go read the Manga/Watch Hellsing Ultimate. Now that is overpowered. Seriously, he

Spoiler

drains a werewolf and a relatively powerful vampire of their blood, at one point. He also can revert back to his original form, as seen in his memories, while releasing the bodies of everyone he's ever drained, using them as his soldiers,

.

Also, the whole point of it is that he is supposed to be massively overpowered, showing how far beyond any other creature he really is. It's supposed to imply that if he really wanted to, he could break the seal that binds him to the Hellsing family. No, that's not a spoiler, it's just heavily implied throught the series.

Spoiler

Actually, at one point, he fights Anderson (the priest), who goes to stab himself with "The Nail," also known as "The Lance of Longinus (SP?)." When he goes to do so, Alucard freaks the hell out, not in fear, but in anger. He basically says "Humans have to be the ones to kill monsters. If you use that, you will be a monster, and unable to kill me." That is a heavy implication that the series is ret-conning Bram Stokers Dracula a small amount, to make it so he let himself loose in the battle with the original Van Hellsing.

That's really the whole focus on Alucard. A massively overpowered character who lets himself loose because he thinks it both neccessary and possibly fun.

 

[NeutralDrow]

Ok I admit it I just don?t get the appeal. In Anime there people like Alucard from Hellsing. In Role-Playing there the wearwolves from vampire the mascurade.

Psh, vampires. I played Werewolf: The Apocalypse. We weren't "overpowered," it's just that high generation cainites are so weak when fighting outside their own setting.

 

[IceStar100]

Ok I admit it I just don?t get the appeal. In Anime there people like Alucard from Hellsing. In Role-Playing there the wearwolves from vampire the mascurade.

Psh, vampires. I played Werewolf: The Apocalypse. We weren't "overpowered," it's just that high generation cainites are so weak when fighting outside their own setting.

Do Explain I was the Toreador always but I have read through the Wearwolf books. I never even found weaknesses.

 

[The Salty Vulcan]

Ok I admit it I just don?t get the appeal. In Anime there people like Alucard from Hellsing. In Role-Playing there the wearwolves from vampire the mascurade.

Psh, vampires. I played Werewolf: The Apocalypse. We weren't "overpowered," it's just that high generation cainites are so weak when fighting outside their own setting.

Werewolf was awesome! Long live the Silver Fangs!

 

[IceStar100]

Man I didn't know so many loved that table top game. I am truely among my own.

 

[The Salty Vulcan]

Man I didn't know so many loved that table top game. I am truely among my own.

That you are. I was more a mage kinda guy though

Do Explain I was the Toreador always but I have read through the Wearwolf books. I never even found weaknesses.

All garou (werewolf) possess the weakness to silver but separate tribes, just like vampire clans have their own weaknesses. Take the Silver Fangs: due to constant inbreeding from their kinfolk, all of the fangs have some sort of derangements.

 

[sonidraw]

Japanese + Dracula = Alucard. That's why he's so powerful and over the top. It's also why some people like him. He's full of bloody action goodness. You can throw an airship, a horde of undead, a Nazi army, or just a bunch of other vampires at him, and he'll give you so much violence. There's not much suspense, I'll admit...

 

[NeutralDrow]

Ok I admit it I just don?t get the appeal. In Anime there people like Alucard from Hellsing. In Role-Playing there the wearwolves from vampire the mascurade.

Psh, vampires. I played Werewolf: The Apocalypse. We weren't "overpowered," it's just that high generation cainites are so weak when fighting outside their own setting.

Do Explain I was the Toreador always but I have read through the Wearwolf books. I never even found weaknesses.

Well, not so much "weak" as "comparatively weak" (and "outside their own setting" sounds a little broader than I thought). It takes a lot of growth and power for a vampire to reliably deal with a werewolf. All but the most pathetic homid Ragabash can, at the very least, turn into nine foot-tall death machines in Crinos (or five/six foot at the shoulder wolves in Hispo), gaining increased physical attributes, aggravated bite and claw attacks, the ability to regenerate bashing and lethal damage and to soak non-silver aggravated damage, and spend rage points for extra actions. Vampires...take half bashing damage, can heal by spending blood points, and have an aggravated bite. They need Disciplines or specialized weaponry (usually powerful ones) to make up the difference. There's a reason most vampires but the Gangrel stay the hell away from the wilderness (besides less prey).

Granted, vampires do much better against changelings, mages, and hunters, and don't usually interact with wraiths (without Necromancy or Auspex, that is).

And nothing beats mummies, ultimately (except maybe the Kuei-jin).

 

[Srkkl]

I don't usually watch Hellsing when I'm in the mood for a dramatic nail biter. However I love it when I'm in the mood for watching someone litterally paint the walls of a hotel room with the blood of a swat army and then impale their bodies on the flagpoles outside the hotel (I don't remember if that was Alucard who put them up there but it did happen.) It mainly appeals to me when I'm in the mood for over-the-top big gun, big boobed awsome, blood fucking awesome. But it's a mood based thing for me.

 

[The Salty Vulcan]

Granted, vampires do much better against mages

Mages can put up more than a fight with a Vampire. Even coincidental Magick involving the Matter, Forces or even Correspondence Spheres could spell trouble for an unwary cainite. Dont even get me started on Vulgar Magick.

 

[IceStar100]

Man we start off about Hellsing and endded up on a white wolf game. GOD I LOVE THIS PLACE. You never know whats around the corner.

Anyway Drow you remind me of one of my fav quotes. You may be a death mechin with teeth but I have perfected the art of hiding like a scared little girl.

Ok I admit it I just don?t get the appeal. In Anime there people like Alucard from Hellsing. In Role-Playing there the wearwolves from vampire the mascurade.

Psh, vampires. I played Werewolf: The Apocalypse. We weren't "overpowered," it's just that high generation cainites are so weak when fighting outside their own setting.

Do Explain I was the Toreador always but I have read through the Wearwolf books. I never even found weaknesses.

There's a reason most vampires but the Gangrel stay the hell away from the wilderness (besides less prey).
(except maybe the Kuei-jin).

Then again if we vamps had it are way there would not be even a blade of grass. Food as far as the eye can see. YUM YUM

 

[Lissa-QUON]

There is just something so very insanely awesome about badasses.

Hellsing is a series that is very much a masturbatory project for the creator. He doesn't really care about plotting or anything beyond getting to the next action sequence. Alucard is a perfect character for that sort of story.

He is characterized by being an insane version of Dracula who is also insanely bored, as such he takes a couple hits now and again mainly for shits and giggles. I've also heard the theory that he probably gets off on it and finds something fun about being shot to swiss cheese and then coming back to rip folks to shreds.

But why is he popular? Because he is the sort of character that many people would probably want to be (sort of). The point of him isn't "oh hey how will he get out of this one?" but more "wow that fight was so insane my brain just dribbled out of my ears". Its Violence plain and simple, and our little reptile hind brains enjoys some blood now and again.

 

[NeutralDrow]

Granted, vampires do much better against mages

Mages can put up more than a fight with a Vampire. Even coincidental Magick involving the Matter, Forces or even Correspondence Spheres could spell trouble for an unwary cainite. Dont even get me started on Vulgar Magick.

True, if you give them enough time to get creative, Mages can take on pretty much anything (though it'd take an Archmage at the least to deal with most mummies). It's just harder for them to do so.

As <url=http://www.silverspoonandpaperplate.com/altww.html>one of my favorite quotes goes...

"While the Mage was getting Paradoxed all to hell for levitating a quarter inch, that Brujah over there just threw someone over a 4-story building, survived getting shot in the head, outaccellerated a police car, dreadgazed the Pope. . ."

Man we start off about Hellsing and endded up on a white wolf game. GOD I LOVE THIS PLACE. You never know whats around the corner.

Anyway Drow you remind me of one of my fav quotes. You may be a death mechin with teeth but I have perfected the art of hiding like a scared little girl.

Curses! You and your Obfuscate...I should have rolled a Lupus (for Heightened Senses and Scent of Sight).

Ok I admit it I just don?t get the appeal. In Anime there people like Alucard from Hellsing. In Role-Playing there the wearwolves from vampire the mascurade.

Psh, vampires. I played Werewolf: The Apocalypse. We weren't "overpowered," it's just that high generation cainites are so weak when fighting outside their own setting.

Do Explain I was the Toreador always but I have read through the Wearwolf books. I never even found weaknesses.

There's a reason most vampires but the Gangrel stay the hell away from the wilderness (besides less prey).
(except maybe the Kuei-jin).

Then again if we vamps had it are way there would not be even a blade of grass. Food as far as the eye can see. YUM YUM

...? Vegetarian vampires? I never heard about that part of Golconda.

 

[The Salty Vulcan]

As <url=http://www.silverspoonandpaperplate.com/altww.html>one of my favorite quotes goes...

"While the Mage was getting Paradoxed all to hell for levitating a quarter inch, that Brujah over there just threw someone over a 4-story building, survived getting shot in the head, outaccellerated a police car, dreadgazed the Pope. . ."

Reality is a harsh mistress but she's so fun to play with.

 

[NeutralDrow]

As <url=http://www.silverspoonandpaperplate.com/altww.html>one of my favorite quotes goes...

"While the Mage was getting Paradoxed all to hell for levitating a quarter inch, that Brujah over there just threw someone over a 4-story building, survived getting shot in the head, outaccellerated a police car, dreadgazed the Pope. . ."

Reality is a harsh mistress but she's so fun to play with.

And her predilection for impromptu nutshots is wonderous when you're playing ST to a Forces and Prime-happy group.

 

[IceStar100]

As <url=http://www.silverspoonandpaperplate.com/altww.html>one of my favorite quotes goes...

"While the Mage was getting Paradoxed all to hell for levitating a quarter inch, that Brujah over there just threw someone over a 4-story building, survived getting shot in the head, outaccellerated a police car, dreadgazed the Pope. . ."

Reality is a harsh mistress but she's so fun to play with.

And her predilection for impromptu nutshots is wonderous when you're playing ST to a Forces and Prime-happy group.

Screw it all I just wanted to turn into a bat.

 

[The Salty Vulcan]

As <url=http://www.silverspoonandpaperplate.com/altww.html>one of my favorite quotes goes...

"While the Mage was getting Paradoxed all to hell for levitating a quarter inch, that Brujah over there just threw someone over a 4-story building, survived getting shot in the head, outaccellerated a police car, dreadgazed the Pope. . ."

Reality is a harsh mistress but she's so fun to play with.

And her predilection for impromptu nutshots is wonderous when you're playing ST to a Forces and Prime-happy group.

when will people realize the wonderful applications the Life Sphere has?

 

[NeutralDrow]

As <url=http://www.silverspoonandpaperplate.com/altww.html>one of my favorite quotes goes...

"While the Mage was getting Paradoxed all to hell for levitating a quarter inch, that Brujah over there just threw someone over a 4-story building, survived getting shot in the head, outaccellerated a police car, dreadgazed the Pope. . ."

Reality is a harsh mistress but she's so fun to play with.

And her predilection for impromptu nutshots is wonderous when you're playing ST to a Forces and Prime-happy group.

when will people realize the wonderful applications the Life Sphere has?

Screw it all I just wanted to turn into a bat.

I was always more of a Correspondence guy, myself. I was never creative enough with the Life sphere, but screwing around with space-time never got old.