Help Japan, Ignore Haiti?

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Soviet Heavy

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Call me suspicious, but I find it rather aggravating about the way each Earthquake crisis has been handled. Take Japan's crisis. Within days, we have hundreds of different groups sending support, near instant foreign aid being assigned to the country, and lest we forget the massive gamer sympathy organizations like Team Fortress 2's Japan Hat donations.

Then we look at Haiti. Similar disaster, pitiful support in comparison. Canada, who was the first to respond to Haiti's aid calls, effectively criticized reaction times for other developed countries when the earthquake hit last year. While there has been foreign aid, the country remains a wreck, and isn't any better off than it was before the quake hit.

So what's the difference here? A poor, disease ridden country is smashed back into the stone age, and we barely blink, and a leading nation in technological advances retains most of its infrastructure, and suddenly everybody in the world is scrambling to help? Where's the Team Fortress 2 relief fund for Haiti? Where was the massive rush to help Haitian victims trapped in rubble and suffering disease outbreaks? Where was all the foreign aid going when Haiti got hit? There wasn't even enough to handle the cost of provisions for every victim.

I find it astounding that so little sympathy ever goes to underdeveloped nations, while a threat to an economic powerhouse causes a massive scramble. But this is pretty much par for the course. Nobody gives a shit about the little guy when they need to make ends meet.
 

Laser Priest

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Soviet Heavy said:
So what's the difference here? A poor, disease ridden country is smashed back into the stone age, and we barely blink, and a leading nation in technological advances retains most of its infrastructure, and suddenly everybody in the world is scrambling to help?
You answered your own question there. People only care about influential countries. Politics, bullshit, the usual.

If only we could unite the world, preferably under my rule...
 

Lolth17

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Um, there has been a ridiculous amount of money contributed to Haiti. Remember the myriad of celebrity benefits? Their government is just not as efficient as Japan's (see: corrupt), hence not much of it has gone to wear its supposed to. If you want to complain about something, complain about the response to Louisiana/Hurricane Katrina.
 

Tdc2182

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Seriously, get over it.

You want to plan how people react in a crisis (keyword there, crisis.) than you try putting yourself in charge.

There is no rhyme or reason to chaos, and if you think "well, this guys country shattering disaster was worse then that guys" you are not helping the problem, you are jut one of the idiots hindering it by complaining about being treated fair.
 

Cap'n Moe

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Its just business, pockets get lighter etc. You're justified, but overthinking it. I agree with you,don't get me wrong. But a lot of money was lost by people worldwide when Japans quake hit, and a lot more would have been if the situation was not contained.
 

emeraldrafael

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Money, potential trade, status as a nation, the loss it brings to the world.

not to sound like a dick, but really, who would the world miss more, japan, or haiti?

should say that I feel both countries should have been helped back to their feet.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
A poor, disease ridden country is smashed back into the stone age, and we barely blink, and a leading nation in technological advances retains most of its infrastructure, and suddenly everybody in the world is scrambling to help?
There's your answer, you said so yourself. Japan is placed higher on the ladder of countries the world likes than Haiti.
 

Soviet Heavy

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Tdc2182 said:
Seriously, get over it.

You want to plan how people react in a crisis (keyword there, crisis.) than you try putting yourself in charge.

There is no rhyme or reason to chaos, and if you think "well, this guys country shattering disaster was worse then that guys" you are not helping the problem, you are jut one of the idiots hindering it by complaining about being treated fair.
Even if I shouldn't have the right to say which country is worse off, the relief efforts for Japan have been far larger than anything I'd seen sent to Haiti.
 

thiosk

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What? The whole premise of this is false. In the immediate aftermath of the japan quake, the question was: why is no one offering support to japan the way they did to haiti? is it because people feel the japanese can handle it themselves?

There will always be folks criticizing the response of others when it comes to disasters. No surprise there, but to suggest that no one 'helped haiti' is just silly.

The worst part about haiti though, is that every dime was essentially wasted. Its a failed state. Compare it to the dominican republic, which shares the island.

If you REALLY want to talk inequity of disaster relief, check out the support pakistan got for their killer quake. By the time that disaster happened, everyone was so bored of donating to haiti that no one bothered to pay attention to the pakis.

PS: also the disaster was not similar. Big quakes, but japan had big quake, tsunami, then nuclear disasters. Haiti had its problem because every single building the hatians put up was a seismic deathtrap, and they put them right on top of their active fault zone.
Then they took the donated reconstruction funds and rebuilt using the same building codes.
 

Eomega123

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At the risk of sounding like a complete monster, (which I most certainly am going to) people tend to care more about countries that 'matter'. I'm sure Haiti's got some lovely culture and history, but we don't benefit from them and they have no strong influence on any developed nation. Japan, on the other hand, is a major world power and produces some of the most awesome stuff on the planet. People like Japan more because they like what comes out of Japan more. It's the difference between hearing that your best friend is in the hospital (OH NO! Let me rush to his aid right now!) and that there's a homeless man starving in the street (ho hum, that's terrible, I suppose). It might be cruel, but on the grand scale of things Japan just matters a lot more than Haiti.
 

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Necromancer Jim said:
If only we could unite the world, preferably under my rule...
Now the nightmare's real...now Doctor Horrible is here!

Anyway, yeah. There's been plenty of help given to Haiti, but the West is arguably a lot more generous to Japan. Maybe it's because seeing a fellow first-world nation brought to its knees triggers a fear deep within our own hearts, loosening our wallets a bit. Unfortunately, the cynic in me says we just care more about Japan.
 

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Japan is a country that has lot of connections to modern day everything. Meanwhile as far as my knowledge goes haiti and that one place in africa where terrible things happen are areas that are backwoods squalor that in order to fix everything millions of dollars would have to be funded into everything from giving them the tools. Too teaching them how to use the tools for when we leave. To getting rid of the riff raff and teaching them how to make sure they don't come back (all of which would have an extremely variable chance of working and would take years for it to go into effect and who knows if it would stick).

Caring about japan is a bit easier cause they will bounce back. those other places are a losing battle and while that doesn't mean ignore them it just means if you really care about them you gotta pitch in even while people aren't caring.

As controversial as this might sound I say we shouldn't be donating anything to any country not our own right now or for at least a decade. Not because I hate fellow lands it's just we owe these people a uncountable amount of money and I can't save up to pay them if I'm putting my money into whatever thing that passes by.
 

David Conway

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purely economic reasons: Japan is vital to the world economy,especially in asia. Haiti on the other hand, is a drain on the world economy. Money gets pumped in, but do to corruption, instability, overwhelming levels of crime etc; nothing really gets fixed.

A stable, healthy japan is good for everyone, a Haiti that the media conviently forgets about is good for the wallets of the nations expected to donate aid..
 

Princess_Dee

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Misinformed.

I modeled for a benefit for Haiti not two weeks ago. I donated 4,500 USD and throughout the ONE night, the event accumulated nearly 4.5 million USD.

Now if this is the only event that has ever taken place, I will stand corrected. However, I find that to be unlikely.

On a different note...it is not our problem.
 

Tdc2182

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Soviet Heavy said:
Tdc2182 said:
Seriously, get over it.

You want to plan how people react in a crisis (keyword there, crisis.) than you try putting yourself in charge.

There is no rhyme or reason to chaos, and if you think "well, this guys country shattering disaster was worse then that guys" you are not helping the problem, you are jut one of the idiots hindering it by complaining about being treated fair.
Even if I shouldn't have the right to say which country is worse off, the relief efforts for Japan have been far larger than anything I'd seen sent to Haiti.
Well, that is a simple problem of you just being wrong.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/18/pf/japan_earthquake_aid/index.htm
 

Flailing Escapist

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I don't think you're completely on base here. I'm sure there are many people and organizations that help places like japan and haiti that I never even hear of. Here's a joke:
 

bl4ckh4wk64

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Soviet Heavy said:
Now, I'm not extremely well studied on this, but I'm pretty sure Haiti didn't have a nuclear reactor about to blow up equaling a disaster worse than Chernobyl. Besides, Japan contributes to the world. Report me if you wish, but so far Haiti has not contributed anything to the world. The only attention brought to Haiti was about the earthquake and we gave them a lot of support, and what did they do? Their government taxed us on the aid we sent them and kept the money for themselves. There's no use in helping a corrupt government because none of our aid was actually getting to the people. So we stopped sending them aid. Japan on the other hand has gladly accepted our help and is working with the people afflicted, not against them. Again, there's also the whole, "Holy shit this reactor is about to blow" thing...
 

NinjaDeathSlap

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Well, I hate to be the one to say it, but when it comes to a country such as Haiti that was already being crushed under the weight of it's own crime and corruption, maybe people felt that there was only so much they could do, and that no amount of aid was really going to be large enough to make a real difference. As someone earlier just said, it's a failed state. You send aid, and the small amount of it that doesn't get stolen helps put everyone in new homes, so they can get back to their old routine of being oppressed and killed by their own countrymen as if nothing ever happened. Whoopee.