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Nwabudike Morgan

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People are always asking for advice on here, and a lot of what is being asked has no basis on how relationships actually work. The sooner you learn these things, the happier you'll be.

There is nothing you can do, no matter how perfectly thought out and executed, that will make someone who does not have feelings for you suddenly like you. That's not how people work. You can't just pick someone and work at making it happen. Almost every relationship you will be involved in will be with someone that you never knew you had feelings for until you realize she's the only person you've spent time with for the past 3 days. You don't ever pick someone, you find them.

At the beginning of a relationship, things will be amazing. You will want nothing more than to be with her and learn everything there is to know about her and everything she has ever done in her life and it'll be so exciting and wonderful and you'll be the happiest you'll be in your life. And then all of that will stop. This does not mean you're suddenly going to break up. It happens in every relationship, the connection is just as strong as it was before, you're just both comfortable enough with each other and that your relationship can survive on its own without needing constant attention.

Eventually, you're going to get in a fight, and it'll be the first of many. They'll usually be over something really minor and insignificant that you wouldn't even think could start a fight and afterwards you'll just kind of avoid each other. You, in all probability, did not suddenly ruin everything and doom each other to splitsville. You'll both need some space for a little while, you'll cool down, you'll make up, you'll move on. Trust me, you'll know if the fight you just had is going to be what ends it. It'll be really, really ugly.

Also girls don't need figuring out. There is no hidden meaning or subtext in the things she does, there is nothing to decipher, whatever she just told you means exactly what it means.

And one last thing, you're going to wind up having sex eventually, and I know you want it to be one of the most perfect and incredible moments of your life. It will be anything but. It will be awkward, you'll be nervous and extremely self conscious, you will have no idea what you are doing, you will second guess everything you do, all sorts of things will go wrong, you'll probably wind up making an ass of yourself and you will spend at least half of it just wanting it to be over. Congratulations. It's over, you survived. It only gets better from here.
 

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Nwabudike Morgan said:
Almost every relationship you will be involved in will be with someone that you never knew you had feelings for until you realize she's the only person you've spent time with for the past 3 days. You don't ever pick someone, you find them.
Truth in its purest form. You can do nothing, but cry of joy.
 

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Rarhnor said:
Nwabudike Morgan said:
Almost every relationship you will be involved in will be with someone that you never knew you had feelings for until you realize she's the only person you've spent time with for the past 3 days. You don't ever pick someone, you find them.
Truth in its purest form. You can do nothing, but cry of joy.
It's better than being able to make someone you like fall in love with you, since instead of getting what you want, you wind up getting what you need.
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
I was sure this thread was just going to say "when she says no she means yes"
 

tthor

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this is the most honest relationship advice i've ever heard, and is so very true.
 

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D Bones said:
I believe a slow clap is in order.
Indeed.

But the ultimate question is, and this is just random pondering--

Why is a basic hookup so damn easy, and why do things get so damn complicated when feelings get involved? I mean, really.

The difference between "You're hawt, let's go back to my place," and "You're the most amazing person I've ever met, why am I afraid to say anything to you?"

Baffling.
 

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unoleian said:
D Bones said:
I believe a slow clap is in order.
Indeed.

But the ultimate question is, and this is just random pondering--

Why is a basic hookup so damn easy, and why do things get so damn complicated when feelings get involved? I mean, really.

The difference between "You're hawt, let's go back to my place," and "You're the most amazing person I've ever met, why am I afraid to say anything to you?"

Baffling.
Because when it's just someone you're picking up for casual sex, saying the wrong thing just means you're going to be jerking off that night. When there are feelings involved, you're scared saying the wrong thing will cost you what could wind up being an entire lifetime of happiness.
 

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This is some the best advice I've heard in a while.

Nwabudike Morgan said:
And one last thing, you're going to wind up having sex eventually, and I know you want it to be one of the most perfect and incredible moments of your life. It will be anything but. It will be awkward, you'll be nervous and extremely self conscious, you will have no idea what you are doing, you will second guess everything you do, all sorts of things will go wrong, you'll probably wind up making an ass of yourself and you will spend at least half of it just wanting it to be over. Congratulations. It's over, you survived. It only gets better from here.
Let's just hope my first time won't leave me hating sex forever.
 

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You missed out the part about getting hurt, screwed over, and at the point where you will consider a prison sentence because you want to KILL them...
 

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Girl With One Eye said:
You missed out the part about getting hurt, screwed over, and at the point where you will consider a prison sentence because you want to KILL them...
When's that part? At the end, I'm guessing.

This is very true, though. There really is nothing you can do, except just be who you are when you're with your significant other. And that's enough.
 

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LustFull0ne said:
Let's just hope my first time won't leave me hating sex forever.
It won't. You won't be thinking "oh god oh no", you'll be thinking "ok, that wasn't what I was expecting, I'm not going to do all that crap again." The second time you do is much, much less scary. You now know what to expect, you know you suck at it, you know she knows you suck at it, it's all out in open, and you go into it knowing from now on, it's time to learn how to do this.

Girl With One Eye said:
You missed out the part about getting hurt, screwed over, and at the point where you will consider a prison sentence because you want to KILL them...
This will happen, and you'll feel like shit, but all you have to do is try as hard as you can to accept that what has happened has happened, there is nothing you can do about it, and that you need to move on, because staying angry just means you're going to be feeling like shit for much, much longer.
 
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Mexicoho19 said:
Sorry to drop a bombshell, but the Escapist isn't a Dating website.
That may be so, but people treat it like it is sometimes. And either way this is great advice.

OT: Way to put things simple, straightforward and truthfully. Good post :)
 

Nwabudike Morgan

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Mexicoho19 said:
Sorry to drop a bombshell, but the Escapist isn't a Dating website.
But it's still full of people asking for relationship advice like how do "I convince this girl I like to leave the guy she's been with for three years and go out with me", and having them answered by people who also think that this is how it works.

I'm doing a public service.

Maraveno said:
you know I am gonna laugh my ass of if the OP is actually like a 15 year old or something

sorry sorry just felt like saying it

OT : proper advice tho we all know that's ALSO not how it's always gonna be
31 and have been with the woman I'm probably going to marry for the past 5 and a half years.
 

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I just don't understand relationships and attachment what is the point is it some sort of primitive instinct that tells you its the best feeling in the world,is are only goal is to pass on our seed for a person that at any moment can feel an attraction to someone like none they have ever experienced before and then "hurt somebody" by acting on those emotions.I don't know maybe its just me but i don't feel anything for any human being other than myself but at times that instinct to want to be with someone romantically clouds my judgment and i think hey maybe I can like this person but after about 10 hours i would be perfectly okay with never seeing this person again...that pretty much goes for everyone in my life.
 

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Nwabudike Morgan said:
Almost every relationship you will be involved in will be with someone that you never knew you had feelings for until you realize she's the only person you've spent time with for the past 3 days. You don't ever pick someone, you find them.
This was very true for me.

Nwabudike Morgan said:
At the beginning of a relationship, things will be amazing. You will want nothing more than to be with her and learn everything there is to know about her and everything she has ever done in her life and it'll be so exciting and wonderful and you'll be the happiest you'll be in your life. And then all of that will stop. This does not mean you're suddenly going to break up. It happens in every relationship, the connection is just as strong as it was before, you're just both comfortable enough with each other and that your relationship can survive on its own without needing constant attention.
This was kind of true for me. I didn't stop being the happiest I've ever been, and I still can't get enough of her, but what's changed is I'm just as happy when she's miles away. I still have that beginning feeling when she's around, but I don't miss her when she's gone. Is that what you mean?

Nwabudike Morgan said:
Eventually, you're going to get in a fight, and it'll be the first of many. They'll usually be over something really minor and insignificant that you wouldn't even think could start a fight and afterwards you'll just kind of avoid each other. You, in all probability, did not suddenly ruin everything and doom each other to splitsville. You'll both need some space for a little while, you'll cool down, you'll make up, you'll move on. Trust me, you'll know if the fight you just had is going to be what ends it. It'll be really, really ugly.
We've never fought about anything, ever. How long do you think it should take?

Nwabudike Morgan said:
And one last thing, you're going to wind up having sex eventually, and I know you want it to be one of the most perfect and incredible moments of your life. It will be anything but. It will be awkward, you'll be nervous and extremely self conscious, you will have no idea what you are doing, you will second guess everything you do, all sorts of things will go wrong, you'll probably wind up making an ass of yourself and you will spend at least half of it just wanting it to be over. Congratulations. It's over, you survived. It only gets better from here.
Not for us. We had no idea what we were doing the first time, but it wasn't awkward or nervous or anything at all like that. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't the best thing ever, but it was pretty damn close. Maybe it's different for some people.
 

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Yostbeef said:
I just don't understand relationships and attachment what is the point is it some sort of primitive instinct that tells you its the best feeling in the world,is are only goal is to pass on our seed for a person that at any moment can feel an attraction to someone like none they have ever experienced before and then "hurt somebody" by acting on those emotions.I don't know maybe its just me but i don't feel anything for any human being other than myself but at times that instinct to want to be with someone romantically clouds my judgment and i think hey maybe I can like this person but after about 10 hours i would be perfectly okay with never seeing this person again...that pretty much goes for everyone in my life.
You'll feel like this, and then you'll wind up falling in love. And then you'll get it.