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I reckon it would be scary, not because the Germans were living for teh Evulz, but because they were at war with us. Though the existence of the nuclear bomb is in itself worrying, at least America seems to like us. Our enemies having such weapons would have been horrifyingDemented Teddy said:
Actually, we used a testing area in America to test the first Atomic Bombs. Japan was the first field usage, but the tech was tested already.Demented Teddy said:
The aftereffects were much worse than expected though.
Knowing Hitler, he would have had a nuke ten times better than anybody else. And he would have had one. Just one. And he would have used it right away, probably on the U.S. since it seems hated us almost as much as he did the Jews.
Typical Nazi dual advantage/disadvantage: better stuff than anybody else, but not nearly enough of it. He would have decimated a few million innocents, but we would have gotten pissed and nuked several of his cities, in addition to the bombs dropped on Japan. Point is, we still woulda kicked his ass.
/American pride.
Typical Nazi dual advantage/disadvantage: better stuff than anybody else, but not nearly enough of it. He would have decimated a few million innocents, but we would have gotten pissed and nuked several of his cities, in addition to the bombs dropped on Japan. Point is, we still woulda kicked his ass.
/American pride.
Ah... no. I appreciate where you're coming from here but no. America turned up late for the war, so in its typical "I don't start fights I finish them" kind of mentality they dropped the bomb. Yes, that was an incredibly insulting over-simplification but I couldn't really think of any other way to word it. Hitler, on the other hand, was a total psychopath only interested in a world without diversity and controlling as much of Europe as possible. He would've dropped the bomb with the motive "do as I say or this will happen".Demented Teddy said:
In my opinion I believe Hitler would have nuked Britain first without considering Russia, at least in the early years of WW2. Those of you that have studied the period will know that one of Hitler's Foreign policies was "Grossdeutchland" (sp?) also known as living space, which basically meant the expansion of the German empire so that the people of Germany had more places to live in.
Britain would be taken out as its land mass was relatively small making it a minor candidate for Hitler's foreign policy for living space and proved to be quite a significant threat to the Nazis. But Russia had a much larger area of land making it THE prime candidate for Grossdeutschland, nuking it would be counter-productive.
That my two cents anyways.
Britain would be taken out as its land mass was relatively small making it a minor candidate for Hitler's foreign policy for living space and proved to be quite a significant threat to the Nazis. But Russia had a much larger area of land making it THE prime candidate for Grossdeutschland, nuking it would be counter-productive.
That my two cents anyways.
Isn't that terrorism?Macksheath said:
And yes, Hitler was a cunning bastard. Amazing what a few rallies and some propaganda can do.
If Hitler had not gone forward with the V2 rocket program, He would have had Nuclear power.
The Germans were designing a Jet that could fly higher than any other aircraft...They had a working prototype, but it hadn't flown yet.
In short, if Hitler had put all effort into Nuclear power and Jet planes....We would have lost the war.
Even if he didn't change anything, and the war had gone on for another year, The Nazi's could have re-taken Europe. They were within 6-months to launching several new types of aircraft, including the High-atmosphere bomber, and Nuclear Weapons were close as well.
The Germans were designing a Jet that could fly higher than any other aircraft...They had a working prototype, but it hadn't flown yet.
In short, if Hitler had put all effort into Nuclear power and Jet planes....We would have lost the war.
Even if he didn't change anything, and the war had gone on for another year, The Nazi's could have re-taken Europe. They were within 6-months to launching several new types of aircraft, including the High-atmosphere bomber, and Nuclear Weapons were close as well.
Because for all of the "bad" things America has done in its history, even the worst American President pales in comparison to the sheer concentrated evil of Hitler. I'm not some ultra-nationalist jingoist, but America has not intentionally tried to wipe out an entire ethnicity. I mean, we basically did with our aborigines, but that wasn't so much "we just want you to die" as "we want your land". Hitler's destruction of the Jewish people (and Romany, and homosexuals, and on down the list) wasn't a land-grab, it was just about inciting lynchings basically.Demented Teddy said:
I'd much rather have a nation-state which at least attempts to do the right things, and usually avoids doing the most abjectly evil things, having nuclear weapons that one of the most absolutely evil people in the history of the world. Say what you want about America, but it'd take a concerted effort for us to be as terrible as Hitler was (or, for that matter, most of Europe during their time with the power).
I'm afraid thats not really true. Your right about the rockets but after the war it became apparent that the German nuclear program was years behind the allied program. They barely had any fissionable material of suitable purity and thanks to British work on the only major source of heavy water at the time, in Norway, they didn't have a supply of heavy water to use during enrichment.CrysisMcGee said: