Here's how you get rid of the Catalyst

[Shadowsafter]

Here's my proof that I know the Mass Effect lore better than the brain-dead morons who wrote in the Catalyst. Here's my solution that uses the Crucible to destroy the Reapers without using kid-god space magic.
The point of the Citadel in ME1 was to act as a mass relay and summon the reapers into the galaxy right? Well that means that it can channel extremely powerful Mass Effect fields in a funnel (how a mass relay works).
We're also told that the Crucible as it's designed and built can produce tremendous power, but the concern is channeling it.
So my solution is that the Crucible acts as the "bullet" or magazine of the weapon, and the Citadel be the "barrel". The Crucible commands the Citadel to channel its great amount of energy output through its Mass Effect fields to create a weapon that can destroy a reaper with one shot, and reach across the galaxy since it's a Mass Relay-level field projection.
I'd be interested in hearing feedback on this idea, I've just been cooking that up in my head, heating it over the flame of anger that's been blazing at the base of my skull since finishing ME3.

 

[Terminate421]

I think it functions more like a grenade than a bullet. A grenade made by Mr. T at least.

 

[Knight Templar]

When they said that the Crucible used the power of the Relays in some way it made sense for the Citadel, the heart of the Relay network and location of the most powerful Relay known, would be the funnel for all that energy. But rather than being a weapon that kills Reapers like a huge gun, it would be better for it to make them brain-dead the way killing Saren disabled Sovereign, without shields crusers using non Thanix weapons can bring down a Reaper, and without their mass effect fields their size would make them crush under their own mass planetside.
Everything after Anderson passes out is entirely without need.

I still don't get why the Catalyst was the kid. The kid represents all the people we couldn't save, I get that and it works well enough (In the dream you can't move fast enough to save him, just as you cannot work fast enough to save everyone on earth, I like that). But why then is the Catalyst taking that shape, or is seen as that shape by Shepard? If the kid is meant to represent the people we failed to save, then Shep doesn't care about the kid per se.

Like I said, nothing needs the Catalyst to be there, it adds nothing and removes much.

 

[Keoul]

I was thinking about eye catalysts :c
how wrong i was...

 

[42]

or you could just let it all go and move on, go outside, have a fresh drink from a shop, talk to other people and then play something else?

 

[Phlakes]

or you could just let it all go and move on, go outside, have a fresh drink from a shop, talk to other people and then play something else?

This. Unfortunately "damn, that was a bit disappointing", when translated into 2012 gamerese, means "HOLY FUCK BIOWARE BETRAYED ALL THE LOYAL FANS PETITION AND BOYCOTT THEM FOREVER THEY NEED TO CHANGE IT TO SUIT EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT OR THEY LOSE OUR SUPPORT EA IS EVIL AND HATES THE CONSUMERS WE'RE BEING EXPLOITED SO THEY GET MORE MONEY".

 

[Gennadios]

I still don't get why the Catalyst was the kid. The kid represents all the people we couldn't save, I get that and it works well enough (In the dream you can't move fast enough to save him, just as you cannot work fast enough to save everyone on earth, I like that). But why then is the Catalyst taking that shape, or is seen as that shape by Shepard? If the kid is meant to represent the people we failed to save, then Shep doesn't care about the kid per se.

This is why the reaper indoctrination theory has so much steam, hallucinations are part of the process, so it would make sense that if the kid was such a big regret for Shep the Reapers would use that.

The kid still had terrible voice acting and was so hammily written that I had nothing but joy in watching him die... I had no ******* idea how bad it would really get with him.

Also, during the Legion mission, when Shep was watching Geth memories, he asked why the Quarians were still wearing suits since the scenes were before the exile. Legions response was that while the memories are Geth, it's filtering through what Shep saw and experienced, since he only knows of Quarians in suits, that's how Shep's brain interpereted the information...

Just my two cents, small consolation. Glad that's over with.

 

[Zen Toombs]

The best way to get rid of the Catalyst is to send in a Dogalyst.

Let's be honest, I've never seen a Catalyst ever be actually hurt by a Dogalyst. In fact, most Catalysts I know can beat up any Dogalyst I know, or at least hold their own.

Catalysts are scary.

 

[42]

or you could just let it all go and move on, go outside, have a fresh drink from a shop, talk to other people and then play something else?

This. Unfortunately "damn, that was a bit disappointing", when translated into 2012 gamerese, means "HOLY FUCK BIOWARE BETRAYED ALL THE LOYAL FANS PETITION AND BOYCOTT THEM FOREVER THEY NEED TO CHANGE IT TO SUIT EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT OR THEY LOSE OUR SUPPORT EA IS EVIL AND HATES THE CONSUMERS WE'RE BEING EXPLOITED SO THEY GET MORE MONEY".

well when they put it like that they make it sound like Bioware committed an act of genocide. or as bad as Kony *trollface*

 

[Darkmantle]

or you could just let it all go and move on, go outside, have a fresh drink from a shop, talk to other people and then play something else?

This. Unfortunately "damn, that was a bit disappointing", when translated into 2012 gamerese, means "HOLY FUCK BIOWARE BETRAYED ALL THE LOYAL FANS PETITION AND BOYCOTT THEM FOREVER THEY NEED TO CHANGE IT TO SUIT EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT OR THEY LOSE OUR SUPPORT EA IS EVIL AND HATES THE CONSUMERS WE'RE BEING EXPLOITED SO THEY GET MORE MONEY".

less screaming, more "man bioware seems to be going down in quality with these subpar sequels, perhaps next time I wont but a collectors edition or maybe I'll wait for a prove drop."

although money says that there will be DLC to fix the ending, much like Broken steel for FO3

 

[Phlakes]

less screaming, more "man bioware seems to be going down in quality with these subpar sequels, perhaps next time I wont but a collectors edition or maybe I'll wait for a prove drop."

Not from what I've seen. If I had started a counter for all the times I read "betrayed" or "exploited" or something related to it being the worst game ever, I probably would've given up a long time ago from being overwhelmed.

 

[Darkmantle]

less screaming, more "man bioware seems to be going down in quality with these subpar sequels, perhaps next time I wont but a collectors edition or maybe I'll wait for a prove drop."

Not from what I've seen. If I had started a counter for all the times I read "betrayed" or "exploited" or something related to it being the worst game ever, I probably would've given up a long time ago from being overwhelmed.

but you can straw man both sides really. Take a quick browse over the counter arguments and count every instance of "your dumb if you dislike the ending at all".

there was even a rather large thread called something like "If you don't like the ME3 ending, you are a classless idiot"

If I wanted, I could say that all the people defending the ending are all like that, but we both know that's wrong.

EDIT: how did I misspell "Price" as "prove" :/

 

[Phlakes]

less screaming, more "man bioware seems to be going down in quality with these subpar sequels, perhaps next time I wont but a collectors edition or maybe I'll wait for a prove drop."

Not from what I've seen. If I had started a counter for all the times I read "betrayed" or "exploited" or something related to it being the worst game ever, I probably would've given up a long time ago from being overwhelmed.

but you can straw man both sides really. Take a quick browse over the counter arguments and count every instance of "your dumb if you dislike the ending at all".

there was even a rather large thread called something like "If you don't like the ME3 ending, you are a classless idiot"

If I wanted, I could say that all the people defending the ending are all like that, but we both know that's wrong.

EDIT: how did I misspell "Price" as "prove" :/

Well, it's not all of them that are dropping orbital strikes of rage on the interwebs, just the most vocal ones, whether they're a minority or majority or one guy with a lot of spare time. And of course it has to be them (or him? [my bet's on Zeel]) that are the most vocal.

 

[Bravo 21]

While the Mass Relays could be used as weapons, it would be difficult to hit anything at range, because even with the most precise jumps(excluding those made using the reaper IFF, which really only applies with the Omega 4 relay, I think) are liable to be off by more than 1500 kilometers. Impressive seeing as they are firing these projectiles over hundreds, if not thousands of light years, but still not ideal for a long range weapon. Any reaper in the same system would be fucked though.

 

[Darkmantle]

less screaming, more "man bioware seems to be going down in quality with these subpar sequels, perhaps next time I wont but a collectors edition or maybe I'll wait for a prove drop."

Not from what I've seen. If I had started a counter for all the times I read "betrayed" or "exploited" or something related to it being the worst game ever, I probably would've given up a long time ago from being overwhelmed.

but you can straw man both sides really. Take a quick browse over the counter arguments and count every instance of "your dumb if you dislike the ending at all".

there was even a rather large thread called something like "If you don't like the ME3 ending, you are a classless idiot"

If I wanted, I could say that all the people defending the ending are all like that, but we both know that's wrong.

EDIT: how did I misspell "Price" as "prove" :/

Well, it's not all of them that are dropping orbital strikes of rage on the interwebs, just the most vocal ones, whether they're a minority or majority or one guy with a lot of spare time. And of course it has to be them (or him? [my bet's on Zeel]) that are the most vocal.

I think most on the forums would be willing to bet with you in this case, I don't know who we would bet against, probably zeel himself.

but don't let the raging hatedumb/fandumb from discounting the legitimate arguments. the ending was pretty underwhelming.

this is like the skyrim threads all over again

 

[Gennadios]

Not from what I've seen. If I had started a counter for all the times I read "betrayed" or "exploited" or something related to it being the worst game ever, I probably would've given up a long time ago from being overwhelmed.

You should probably recalibrate the counter. The people bitching about being exploited are the day one DLC people. The "betrayed" people mostly accept the fact that any solution would come in the form of DLC, and they are prepared to pay for it.

And the people complaining about the ending aren't the "worst game ever" people. If it wasn't an extremely satisfying experience for 99% of the journey nobody would give a damn. Unfortunately humans are hardwired to put the most weight to the beginning and the end of most things, so better was definitely expected.

 

[Cranky]

The best way to get rid of the Catalyst is to send in a Dogalyst.

Let's be honest, I've never seen a Catalyst ever be actually hurt by a Dogalyst. In fact, most Catalysts I know can beat up any Dogalyst I know, or at least hold their own.

Catalysts are scary.

Hell, I'd bet a Dogalyst can do worse. Have you seen one of those things? I saw one eat an entire skyscraper before. Still I am wary of dem Catalysts.

 

[fozzy360]

or you could just let it all go and move on, go outside, have a fresh drink from a shop, talk to other people and then play something else?

I'm curious, why bother posting a sarcastic, condescending response such as this? I mean, really, why bother? You're on a sight filled with people who are passionate enough to join a forum that revolves around gaming, yet you find it worth your time to post a response like the one above? I mean, why? I see this response in many other forums by many other users who place themselves on this high horse away from the dirty gamers below. Just, why?

I still don't get why the Catalyst was the kid. The kid represents all the people we couldn't save, I get that and it works well enough (In the dream you can't move fast enough to save him, just as you cannot work fast enough to save everyone on earth, I like that). But why then is the Catalyst taking that shape, or is seen as that shape by Shepard? If the kid is meant to represent the people we failed to save, then Shep doesn't care about the kid per se.

That bothers me as well. You'd think with all the people Shepard has seen killed or maimed or all the people he killed throughout his journey through the galaxy that one of those characters might be the one that represents the guilt or loss he feels. I really don't feel any sort of emotional connection to that kid because, really, he means so little to me, the player.

 

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or you could just let it all go and move on, go outside, have a fresh drink from a shop, talk to other people and then play something else?

I'm curious, why bother posting a sarcastic, condescending response such as this? I mean, really, why bother? You're on a sight filled with people who are passionate enough to join a forum that revolves around gaming, yet you find it worth your time to post a response like the one above? I mean, why? I see this response in many other forums by many other users who place themselves on this high horse away from the dirty gamers below. Just, why?

I still don't get why the Catalyst was the kid. The kid represents all the people we couldn't save, I get that and it works well enough (In the dream you can't move fast enough to save him, just as you cannot work fast enough to save everyone on earth, I like that). But why then is the Catalyst taking that shape, or is seen as that shape by Shepard? If the kid is meant to represent the people we failed to save, then Shep doesn't care about the kid per se.

That bothers me as well. You'd think with all the people Shepard has seen killed or maimed or all the people he killed throughout his journey through the galaxy that one of those characters might be the one that represents the guilt or loss he feels. I really don't feel any sort of emotional connection to that kid because, really, he means so little to me, the player.

well allow me to reply with my sarcastic high-horse answer. because apparently my non-sarcasm didn't come through enough in my original post.

I am passionate about games, but not to the degree where it borders on obsessive. I play games to enjoy them and i don't think I'm in a high position above other people, I just don't think getting upset and OVERLY EMOTIONAL WHICH IS THE CASE HERE, is worth the energy and effort when we both know Bioware are going to do sweet to fuck all to change the situation, and I know for sure that there will be something people will be bitching or going about in the near future. Controversy in games is overblown at the best of times. what my post was meant to convey was maybe everyone should take a FRICKING CHILL pill.