Heroes you yelled "YOU IDIOT!" at.

[userwhoquitthesite]

Every single last freaking time, a "hero" says: "IF YOU KILL HIM YOU WILL BE JUST LIKE HIM!"

No just no.
Killing the man who killed an entire city, or building, or your family, does not make you as bad as them.
Its nothing more than angsty moralizing that means nothing.

Mostly since it happened in my D/D game that ended my Paladin career.

I had a disgusting slaver at my mercy who was a complete monster.
So I gutted him before he could get help from the VERY corrupt court.

DM: "YOU FALL FROM BEING A PALADIN YOU LOSE ALL YOUR POWERS REPENT NOW!!!!!!!"
Me: "What the hell?"

He then lectured me over how my paladin was just as bad as the slaver for having killed him when he begged for mercy.
No...just NO. My Paladin struck down ONE bad guy, he never tortured, kidnapped, enslaved, or whatever else that dude did. Killing a MONSTER does not ever turn you into a monster.

Then again that dude was probably just pissy that I killed a villain he wanted to use for the long haul.

He's a shitty DM... that's kind of the whole deal with paladins... they're so black and white that they do "bad" things like executing a downed foe.

OT: Sephiroth in Crisis Core, Angeal and Genisis count too but mostly Sephiroth.

Him: "Oh no I just discovered that I am born of some monster that tried to destroy the world"
Me: ... Ok this changes what about your life so far?
Him: "TIME TO TURN EVIL AND KILL ALL MY FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES"
Me: Well that escalated quickly...

Actually anyone who changes alignment after the discover they aren't human makes me rage.

Crisis Core was a piece of shit, just like every FFVII sequel. In FFVII, Sephiroth's face-heel turn isn't because he's not human, it's because he is already emotionally crippled from his upbringing, and then learns that NOTHING he has been told is the truth. He thinks his father figure (Gast) only saw him as a science experiment, and the actual details of his creation. Personal identity is a powerful thing: think about it in more realistic terms. Mutilating your body for the sake of appearance is kind of crazy, right? Like, maybe piercings or tattoos, because they aren't "serious" damage, but how about slicing off your genitals and carving a new hole in your body? Implanting possibly dangerous items to alter your shape? That's kind of insane. And yet, gender reassignment surgery exists, because the people who get it are compelled to by their sense of identity. Now imagine that you have been brought up in a cold, clinical environment without any real nurturing. You are treated as different, and alienated from the fleeting aquaintances you have. In desperation you latch onto the one person to show you the least bit of tenderness, and they LEAVE you. Your life is based entirely around combat and slaughter. You grow to adulthood in war. You don't know what you are fighting for, only that you are supposed to. You have no real friends, because most people view you as a labrat, something to be feared, or an object of pure awe, too high on a pedestal to approach. There is one person who looks past that and wishes to befriend you, but by now you're an emotionally crippled adult who doesn't know how to allow such an emotional connection. Then, finally, you learn that the people who you have served all your life are evil, and that everything you've done has been an asset to their aims. And the one thing that made you like everyone else, your humanity, is a lie. Your mother wasn't a woman who died bringing you into this world, but an alien monstrosity. You are a genetically assembled creature, a weapon, built to destroy.

Add the influence of Jenova and her will to destroy all life and absorb it, and you've got one hell of a prescription for a psychotic episode.

EDIT: yes, i put this much thought into FFVII. It's why the game is so good, and why the sequels are so crap.

 

[Lonewolfm16]

Clary from the Mortal insttuments. I spent all of the last book resenting her. *spoilers* she uses her one wish granted by a angel to bring back her dead boyfriend who was killed a few minutes before. That seems fine but she could have wished for anything. She could have wished for a magic stone with the power to bring the dead back and brought back everyone who died in battle. She could have wished for the cure to cancer and saved millions. But no of course not because she is in love, amd for some reason that means all morals and logic don't apply because love is good right? Seriously and the worst part is she recognizes this and thinks she made the right choice. She admits she could have wished to cure all disease but because Jace is more important she thinks that is the right choice. How selfish! Because you like someone better than everyone else their lives don't matter? And what about all the lovers just as in love as you or Jace who are torn apart by cancer or other diseases? You could have helped hundreds of thousands but instead decided to help only yourself. So yeah screw her and her mental disorder.

 

[milo2215]

The explanation for that is, in the Walking Dead universe, George Romero never released his movies and the word "zombie" isn't a common part of pop culture. Sorry if I am replying after someone has already answered you, hahaha

 

[twaddle]

Rick from The Walking Dead, for not pimp-slapping all the hysterical women into shutting up (I don't mean to sound sexist, but in the show, it's only the women that go "AAAH MY BABY/SISTER/FATHER!" and in general can't make a rational thought to save their life).

After the end of Season 1, I wanted all the men in the group to say "Fuck it, we don't need you. You can stay here and die" to all the other survivors and just leave them (including Ricks stupid-ass son).

Oh dear god, I hated Carl and Andrea. They just had so many annoying attitude problems. I really wish someone would drop kick them a few times.

You know it's bad when there's a meme confirming it.

you forgot the rebel badass who is out for his own ass as number 3

 

[Frostbyte666]

Every single last freaking time, a "hero" says: "IF YOU KILL HIM YOU WILL BE JUST LIKE HIM!"

No just no.
Killing the man who killed an entire city, or building, or your family, does not make you as bad as them.
Its nothing more than angsty moralizing that means nothing.

Mostly since it happened in my D/D game that ended my Paladin career.

I had a disgusting slaver at my mercy who was a complete monster.
So I gutted him before he could get help from the VERY corrupt court.

DM: "YOU FALL FROM BEING A PALADIN YOU LOSE ALL YOUR POWERS REPENT NOW!!!!!!!"
Me: "What the hell?"

He then lectured me over how my paladin was just as bad as the slaver for having killed him when he begged for mercy.
No...just NO. My Paladin struck down ONE bad guy, he never tortured, kidnapped, enslaved, or whatever else that dude did. Killing a MONSTER does not ever turn you into a monster.

Then again that dude was probably just pissy that I killed a villain he wanted to use for the long haul.

He's a shitty DM... that's kind of the whole deal with paladins... they're so black and white that they do "bad" things like executing a downed foe.

OT: Sephiroth in Crisis Core, Angeal and Genisis count too but mostly Sephiroth.

Him: "Oh no I just discovered that I am born of some monster that tried to destroy the world"
Me: ... Ok this changes what about your life so far?
Him: "TIME TO TURN EVIL AND KILL ALL MY FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES"
Me: Well that escalated quickly...

Actually anyone who changes alignment after the discover they aren't human makes me rage.

Crisis Core was a piece of shit, just like every FFVII sequel. In FFVII, Sephiroth's face-heel turn isn't because he's not human, it's because he is already emotionally crippled from his upbringing, and then learns that NOTHING he has been told is the truth. He thinks his father figure (Gast) only saw him as a science experiment, and the actual details of his creation. Personal identity is a powerful thing: think about it in more realistic terms. Mutilating your body for the sake of appearance is kind of crazy, right? Like, maybe piercings or tattoos, because they aren't "serious" damage, but how about slicing off your genitals and carving a new hole in your body? Implanting possibly dangerous items to alter your shape? That's kind of insane. And yet, gender reassignment surgery exists, because the people who get it are compelled to by their sense of identity. Now imagine that you have been brought up in a cold, clinical environment without any real nurturing. You are treated as different, and alienated from the fleeting aquaintances you have. In desperation you latch onto the one person to show you the least bit of tenderness, and they LEAVE you. Your life is based entirely around combat and slaughter. You grow to adulthood in war. You don't know what you are fighting for, only that you are supposed to. You have no real friends, because most people view you as a labrat, something to be feared, or an object of pure awe, too high on a pedestal to approach. There is one person who looks past that and wishes to befriend you, but by now you're an emotionally crippled adult who doesn't know how to allow such an emotional connection. Then, finally, you learn that the people who you have served all your life are evil, and that everything you've done has been an asset to their aims. And the one thing that made you like everyone else, your humanity, is a lie. Your mother wasn't a woman who died bringing you into this world, but an alien monstrosity. You are a genetically assembled creature, a weapon, built to destroy.

Add the influence of Jenova and her will to destroy all life and absorb it, and you've got one hell of a prescription for a psychotic episode.

EDIT: yes, i put this much thought into FFVII. It's why the game is so good, and why the sequels are so crap.

Don't forget this physchotic break took about a week of him reading reports, it wasn't an instant change, and since his mum being JENOVA is actually a lie as well, how much of the information in those reports were lies or half truths designed by Hojo to send Sephiroth batshit insane.

Also with regards to the paladin incident it seems more in characterfor him to kill the slaver especially if he knows the courts are corrupt. I could imagine the paladin look at the slaver and say something along the lines of how many have begged for their lives from you only to be cut down where they stand.

Another idiot hero would be Adam Jensen in Hong Kong talking to the dragon lady, I actually yelled shoot her you idiot before she escapes I don't buy any of her drivel, oh wait behind a bullet proof screen, well done hero.

 

[Zorad]

Every Jedi in the Star Wars prequels. Every one.

^ This. Although at the risk of sounding like a fanboy I don't hate the prequels, just certain things in them lol. Also there were several times I watched Grevious (I know, a villain not a hero) and thought, "well if this was Clone Wars micro-series Grevious you'd be proper fucked." instead of him being sorta a flashy wuss like in the movie.

 

[Asus Quickclaw]

Mario. Just go to the other castle in the first place then. You KNOW she's not gonna be there.

 

[TheTurtleMan]

You know I didn't think I had a problem with choices the characters on Walking Dead made because it seemed like no one would act rationally given the circumstances. However now I realize that there was a reason that I was never sad when one of them died, they were all too stupid to sympathize with!

Everyone is allowed room for error during the apocalypse but really? It's a pivotal mark in each season when someone makes a rational decision because it happens so rarely.

All the women on that show are either bonkers, baby bitches, or dead weight. I was hoping that old woman that wouldn't stop crying about Sofia would have been eaten or shot in the last season finally because she takes the take for being dead weight cry baby. And Daryl should have shot Andrea in the fucking face for clipping him with that rifle shot.

And last of all... Carl, get in the fucking house and stay there.

 

[userwhoquitthesite]

Don't forget this physchotic break took about a week of him reading reports, it wasn't an instant change, and since his mum being JENOVA is actually a lie as well, how much of the information in those reports were lies or half truths designed by Hojo to send Sephiroth batshit insane.

He doesn't know about Lucrecia, and all those reports are standard project files. Sephiroth wasn't supposed to find the lab, nor did Hojo intend to drive him insane (he just took advantage of it for fun). EVERY bit of information "added" by the sequels (and prequels, yes, just to be clear) is either stupid or WRONG, cheapens the original game, and will be entirely ignored by me, and hopefully any other real fans of FFVII.

*waves my nerd banner of hate and parades off into the darkness*

 

[Tippy]

Pretty much every time a protagonist dicks around talking and acting dramatic while missing a thousand opportunities to kill the antagonist (a completely evil jerk, or a potentially evil jerk).

I wish game developers, anime writers, hollywood, etc etc all learn that nothing turns off the audience more than a protagonist who is...well, constantly makes retarded decisions (unless it's a comedy and they're supposed to do that).

"Don't talk. Just shoot."

That's why it's absolutely GLORIOUS in the occasional movie/game where the protagnist does end the villain without messing around and I yell at my TV "yes, THAT'S how its done!"

Case in point: "Taken" starring Liam Neeson. Extract info, kill (maybe say just 1 badass line), move on. VERY satisfying to watch.

 

[Frostbyte666]

Don't forget this physchotic break took about a week of him reading reports, it wasn't an instant change, and since his mum being JENOVA is actually a lie as well, how much of the information in those reports were lies or half truths designed by Hojo to send Sephiroth batshit insane.

He doesn't know about Lucrecia, and all those reports are standard project files. Sephiroth wasn't supposed to find the lab, nor did Hojo intend to drive him insane (he just took advantage of it for fun). EVERY bit of information "added" by the sequels (and prequels, yes, just to be clear) is either stupid or WRONG, cheapens the original game, and will be entirely ignored by me, and hopefully any other real fans of FFVII.

*waves my nerd banner of hate and parades off into the darkness*

True and i'm not basing this on prequels/sequels of the game (since I haven't played them) and I do admit that Sephiroth doesn't find out about his real mother, though Cloud and party do, and the false information is speculation on my part but something I believe Hojo would do based on his character throughout the game.

 

[launchpadmcqwak]

voldemort...dont use the trophy as the portkey, use a book or something you idiot

 

[userwhoquitthesite]

Don't forget this physchotic break took about a week of him reading reports, it wasn't an instant change, and since his mum being JENOVA is actually a lie as well, how much of the information in those reports were lies or half truths designed by Hojo to send Sephiroth batshit insane.

He doesn't know about Lucrecia, and all those reports are standard project files. Sephiroth wasn't supposed to find the lab, nor did Hojo intend to drive him insane (he just took advantage of it for fun). EVERY bit of information "added" by the sequels (and prequels, yes, just to be clear) is either stupid or WRONG, cheapens the original game, and will be entirely ignored by me, and hopefully any other real fans of FFVII.

*waves my nerd banner of hate and parades off into the darkness*

True and i'm not basing this on prequels/sequels of the game (since I haven't played them) and I do admit that Sephiroth doesn't find out about his real mother, though Cloud and party do, and the false information is speculation on my part but something I believe Hojo would do based on his character throughout the game.

Just remember, Hojo (in the original game) is a sexy beast.