When mighty whitey fixes his tightey whiteys.K12 said:And when are we going to get "white history month"!
When mighty whitey fixes his tightey whiteys.K12 said:And when are we going to get "white history month"!
More so than the idea that people are actually claiming so?Street Halo said:This idea that any one set lives an easy life of free cocaine/hookers and rides a unicorn to their job at the chocolate factory is deluded.
Putting aside the struggle for gay acceptance in society, yeah, that's not a bad analogy. Though perhaps it seems more like someone grumbling to their mates about how they totally should do that, then going back to whatever they were doing.Worgen said:I know its done tongue in cheek but it still kinda puts me in mind of someone finding out his neighbor is having a birthday and deciding to have a bigger better party to outshine them.
Heh, competition breeds excellence.Worgen said:I know its done tongue in cheek but it still kinda puts me in mind of someone finding out his neighbor is having a birthday and deciding to have a bigger better party to outshine them.
I'm sorry but in what world does the average cis gendered person not face most of the same or similar negatives of life, because it ain't planet Earth. LGBT have higher suicide rates and possibly drug addiction too but the average straight person (especially male) is far more likely to suffer violence or be murdered. More whites killed by police than blacks. Wanna know where the highest rates of domestic violence are because it involves some girl on girl action?Thaluikhain said:That people face all sorts of problems is beyond question. That LGBT people face extra, and rather severe ones, simply for being LGBT also should be beyond question.
Rubbish. For what possible reason would cishet people face more violence that LGBT people?Street Halo said:but the average straight person (especially male) is far more likely to suffer violence or be murdered.
We can work together. Its why I try to stem counter-bigotry (which really is just bigotry) when I can. But co-operation requires atleast two people, and responding as you are, it doesn't come off as you wanting to co-operate to stem bigotry.Street Halo said:I'm sorry but in what world does the average cis gendered person not face most of the same or similar negatives of life, because it ain't planet Earth. LGBT have higher suicide rates and possibly drug addiction too but the average straight person (especially male) is far more likely to suffer violence or be murdered. More whites killed by police than blacks. Wanna know where the highest rates of domestic violence are because it involves some girl on girl action?Thaluikhain said:That people face all sorts of problems is beyond question. That LGBT people face extra, and rather severe ones, simply for being LGBT also should be beyond question.
And before you ask I didn't get this news from Breitbart, I found it on The Guardian, Huff Po and LGBT sites.
This is why the oppression olympics and identity politics are pointless distractions and only create more division than solve actual problems. We've all got issues, we can work together or we can just continue fighting amongst ourselves, competing for the title of "best victim" in a game where there is no prize.
Rubbish? You have google, look it up and prove me wrong! The reasons may be different but bloody and beaten is still assault and dead is still dead.Thaluikhain said:Rubbish. For what possible reason would cishet people face more violence that LGBT people?
LGBT people face violence for being LGBT. Cishet people do not face violence for being cishet. Where is this supposed extra violence that cishet people face coming from?
While I'm sure we heterosexuals are victim to more violence in sheer numbers, I highly doubt we're worse off proportionally, man.Street Halo said:Rubbish? You have google, look it up and prove me wrong! The reasons may be different but bloody and beaten is still assault and dead is still dead.Thaluikhain said:Rubbish. For what possible reason would cishet people face more violence that LGBT people?
LGBT people face violence for being LGBT. Cishet people do not face violence for being cishet. Where is this supposed extra violence that cishet people face coming from?
Reply with more oppression olympics nonsense doe.
Saelune said:Then technically we're on the same side but where you find more issue with "counter-bigotry", I'd rather stem pointless division to solve the issues. I'm not into hate for the sake of hate, I'm part Koori (Australian Aboriginal) and I have 2 LGBT family members so no homophobia on my watch but I'm not out to blame those evil white cis genders for systems created and ruled over by a very small few.Street Halo said:Its why I try to stem counter-bigotry (which really is just bigotry) when I can. But co-operation requires atleast two people, and responding as you are, it doesn't come off as you wanting to co-operate to stem bigotry.
I guarantee they're laughing all the way to the bank at the peasantry and our infighting shit.
Street Halo said:Nor am I trying to blame all straight white men for the evils of a few straight white...usually rich men, many of which lived and died hundreds or more years ago. Ive been called out for supposedly overly defending my oppressors, when really I am defending those who despite their privileges, (and merely being US born is a major privilege I am glad to have mind you) realize some groups of people get the short end of the stick, even in countries like the US or England.Saelune said:Then technically we're on the same side but where you find more issue with "counter-bigotry", I'd rather stem pointless division to solve the issues. I'm not into hate for the sake of hate, I'm part Koori (Australian Aboriginal) and I have 2 LGBT family members so no homophobia on my watch but I'm not out to blame those evil white cis genders for systems created and ruled over by a very small few.Street Halo said:Its why I try to stem counter-bigotry (which really is just bigotry) when I can. But co-operation requires atleast two people, and responding as you are, it doesn't come off as you wanting to co-operate to stem bigotry.
I guarantee they're laughing all the way to the bank at the peasantry and their infighting shit.
I also think complaining over Gay Pride or Black History month or things like that is a waste of time and misses the point of why we have them.
Too many people are overly offended, but just as many people are under offended. Its really about being the right amount of offended at the appropriate time, and using that atleast somewhat productively and not turning into a raving lunatic. And its sometimes too easy to become that raving lunatic (I say from experience).
That's arguing apples and oranges though. Hard numbers on percentage of LGBT identifying people varies too much but looking at rough numbers, cis gendered people are still far more likely percentage wise to be murdered and it's hard to imagine assault is much different. Either way people are still getting fucked up for stupid reasons and all this identity nonsense does is create division imo.Sonmi said:While I'm sure we heterosexuals are victim to more violence in sheer numbers, I highly doubt we're worse off proportionally, man.
After all, pretty much all the reasons a straight man could get his shit kicked in applies to an hypothetical gay man as well, while the gay man could be beaten up for his sexual orientation and it's very unlikely that a straight man ever would.
You're misinterpreting the statistics, man.Street Halo said:That's arguing apples and oranges though. Hard numbers on percentage of LGBT identifying people varies too much but looking at rough numbers, cis gendered people are still far more likely percentage wise to be murdered and it's hard to imagine assault is much different. Either way people are still getting fucked up for stupid reasons and all this identity nonsense does is create division imo.Sonmi said:While I'm sure we heterosexuals are victim to more violence in sheer numbers, I highly doubt we're worse off proportionally, man.
After all, pretty much all the reasons a straight man could get his shit kicked in applies to an hypothetical gay man as well, while the gay man could be beaten up for his sexual orientation and it's very unlikely that a straight man ever would.
Look at this Heterosexual pride day nonsense, it's purely reactionary but when the average Joe is being blamed for running/supporting systems they have no real control over, is it surprising? Shit like this didn't happen 10 years ago but with the oppression olympics came the reactionaries.
It's all pointless infighting from where I'm standing.
Well I think there is a fundamental misunderstanding by most non lgbt people what pride day is about. Most lgbt people understand this only on an internal level too, which is why people rarely explain it very well. There is nothing wrong with being proud of being gay. There is nothing wrong with being proud of being straight. In this sense there is no difference.Rastrelly said:IIRC, being gay is not a choice, right? Then, it is an inborn quality. Thus, there's as much to be proud of being gay, as it is of being straight. So I don't see anything funny in this.
Dragonlayer said:Straight Pride is so last year, call me when I can openly take pride in my disgusting fetishes.
Well, you guys should be aware that there exists the International Fetish Day [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fetish_Day] celebrated the third Friday of the year. There is also in Spanish speaking countries July the 24th, 24/7, which is a expresion used for BDSM relationships are all day long all the day.Clive Howlitzer said:I hope this catches on. I want a sexual deviance pride day where we can all have wild kinky sex in the streets. That would be a parade that everyone would attend.
Part of me wants cold, hard numbers so I can go "See? SEE?!?1!" but they're too rough and in the end it'd be playing the olympics from the other side. Just can't stand the infighting and all the apathetic or outright opposition identity politics is creating.Sonmi said:You're misinterpreting the statistics, man.
Murdered people are more likely to be straight, but that's in sheer numbers, proportionally, it's considerably more dangerous to be gay/queer/trans/whatever.
I do admit that the in-fighting is stupid though. Be and let be, if people are acting like idiots without directly harming anyone, let them.
lol Are you guys getting the Asian dating site ads or is it just me? I haven't looked up asian porn in weeks but google never forgets.kurokotetsu said:Dragonlayer said:Straight Pride is so last year, call me when I can openly take pride in my disgusting fetishes.Well, you guys should be aware that there exists the International Fetish Day [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fetish_Day] celebrated the third Friday of the year. There is also in Spanish speaking countries July the 24th, 24/7, which is a expresion used for BDSM relationships are all day long all the day.Clive Howlitzer said:I hope this catches on. I want a sexual deviance pride day where we can all have wild kinky sex in the streets. That would be a parade that everyone would attend.
And dispite it might be seen as a joke, it might be important in the same snese Gay Pride is, because for example, that Britih MP was shamed for showing support or being "sexually deviant" and had to retract. And that suck becuase we are who we are and fetishes are as old as humanity (and a lot of us know we were born this way). So tehre is that.
And I add my voice that while it might be a joke, it ws a tad distateful and ignoratnon what gay Pride is. I is awesome being heterosexual (and it is awesome being GSM) but we don't suffer discrimination for our preference. And yes, I'm a white, cis straight dude 8so straight My submissive makes a bit of fun of me, because she is bi and as she puts it "I don't have a drop of homosexual inme"). It was a bad taste joke spcially because I see some poeple that actually support the idea without considering the context or possible repercussions.